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[(._.)]

I really will never understand why a game like this does so well.

 

[FieryBalrog]

The Pokemon craze is the younger kids. I'm talking like tween-age.

Peer pressure on kids applies to all sorts of products and entertainment related media. Which has nothing whatsoever to do with Black Ops.

I don't even know why I'm bothering, you're pretty clearly too far gone.

 

[Kyoufu]

I really will never understand why a game like this does so well.

Fun games selling well.. Bizarre isn't it?

 

[Chavelo]

Grow up, people. There is a market that Activision has a good grip on, but it's not "the end of creativity" or even "destroying the industry".

It's like other companies that create other games don't exist at all for you, damn.

COD is a fun (IMO) arcade-y game, that's all. There's other games that have their own market and customers.

Did Bobby run over and rape your damn dog? Jesus.

/rant

Get back to discussing Deus Ex, Persona, and other GOOD games you care about.

 

[FieryBalrog]

It's funny that people are holding up TF2 as an example, the game that sells $3 keys to gamble at a $1500 cosmetic hat.

Nothing exploitative about gambling, amirite

 

[zephervack]

I really will never understand why a game like this does so well.

With XP, and prestige.

 

[Tenck]

Haha what are you smoking.

So what's creative about them? Just wondering.

 

[Boney]

I'm scared

It's funny that people are holding up TF2 as an example, the game that sells $3 keys to gamble at a $1500 cosmetic hat.

Nothing exploitative about gambling, amirite

Haven't spent a dime on it and I have everything.

 

[rdrr gnr]

Everyone that bought this crap is the problem with this gen.

Amen. Can't wait to look forward to $25 map packs on the 720.

 

[Mr_Brit]

Yeah. Damn people for spending $60 for hundreds of hours of gameplay they like. Those people should be spending that money importing shitty games from Japan, or buying artbooks, or multiple copies of the same game so they can keep one and avoid the greatest hits packaging later, or any number of things gamers blow their money on regularly in the monthly pick-up thread.

The sheer bitterness from exactly the type of people you just described is pathetic.

 

[Anilusion]

I'd say no to that considering CS:GO doesn't look like a major effort. Same old maps again with a new paint that does not look much different from CSS.

Would be like the last 4 call of duty games then.

 

[FieryBalrog]

I'm scared


Haven't spent a dime on it and I have everything.

You have everything in TF2? Everything?

My ass you do.

 

[zephervack]

It's funny that people are holding up TF2 as an example, the game that sells $3 keys to gamble at a $1500 cosmetic hat.

Nothing exploitative about gambling, amirite

I dont know, TF2 is free and thats like a game within a game, you dont need to partake in the gambling to enjoy the full game.

Cod map packs partition the community and encourage other developers to include less content. Not to turn this into another COD vrs BF3 bonanza, but look at BF3, not even out and the community is already partitioned, they are working on map packs and announcing them when the game is not even out.

 

[(._.)]

Fun games selling well.. Bizarre isn't it?

this games not fun though

 

[Kyoufu]

this games not fun though

Says who? You? ok

 

[(._.)]

Says who? You? ok

anybody with credibility

 

[FieryBalrog]

There are people who have spent thousands on TF2 crates.

There's something just a little distasteful about encouraging that shit with 0.003% drop rates.

 

[stuminus3]

Peer pressure on kids applies to all sorts of products and entertainment related media.

Right. It's horrible. Something should be done about it! But where do we start?

I'm thinking like forming a street team in the local neighbourhood or something. Print up some flyers to hand out to all the parents around the schools, showing them there's other options.

One kid won't make a difference but maybe with an organised effort and some Steam accounts for everyone we could get enough of them into it at the same time to make a splash. Especially now that TF2 is free to play, that could help with buy in. I'd even go as far as pointing out that $15 for 4 new zombie maps is pretty weak in comparison to Left 4 Dead 2 receiving like what 10 new campaigns since release including all the ported ones from L4D1? Shit goes on sale all the time too.

I might not work but it'd be a start, better than doing nothing.

 

[-tetsuo-]

MW3 map packs will not add one more map and charge $20. Will sell 20 million of them.

 

[Phonomezer]

What can you say really; great games deserves great sales.

I'm not a big fan of CoD, but they're top notch FPS games.

 

[lethial]

I love the neck beards response to this. "I weep for gaming" "This is what's wrong with gamers" blah blah blah blah.

 

[Patapwn]

I don't hate or even dislike call of duty but I wish the games I love could enjoy a similar degree of success...

...BWAHAHAHA Fuck I was just joking. Screw COD to HELLL! (am I doing it right now?)

 

[Str0ngStyle]

Over 18 million people helping destroy creativity in the industry.

I don't like Activision, but to be fair, it is not their fault that everyone is chasing that call of duty money. Why can't someone put COD money into something like a platformer or fighter. Hell take that money and make a whole new genre. Point is there was little creativty long before COD blew up

 

[Chavelo]

Right. It's horrible. Something should be done about it! But where do we start?

I'm thinking like forming a street team in the local neighbourhood or something. Print up some flyers to hand out to all the parents around the schools, showing them there's other options.

One kid won't make a difference but maybe with an organised effort and some Steam accounts for everyone we could get enough of them into it to make a splash. Especially now that TF2 is free to play, that could help with buy in. I'd even go as far as pointing out that $15 for 4 new zombie maps is pretty weak in comparison to Left 4 Dead 2 receiving like what 10 new campaigns since release including all the ported ones from L4D1? Shit goes on sale all the time too.

I might not work but it'd be a start, better than doing nothing.

Neither is your grammar.

Fixed. :3

 

[Mr_Brit]

What can you say really; great games deserves great sales.

I'm not a big fan of CoD, but they're top notch FPS games.

You don't wanna be sayin dat round these parts boy, them's dangerous words you's speakin.

 

[Boney]

You have everything in TF2? Everything?

My ass you do.

I have all the stages, and I've been unlocking some weapons by playing. So I don't get some silly hats, big deal, characters look better without it.

 

[PairOfFilthySocks]

this games not fun though

Neither is your grammar.

comeatmebro.gif

 

[FieryBalrog]

I have all the stages, and I've been unlocking some weapons by playing. So I don't get some silly hats, big deal, characters look better without it.

You don't even have all the non-cosmetic stuff (or even close). Yeah, that's "everything".

 

[(._.)]

Neither is your grammar.

comeatmebro.gif

my grammars not fun

 

[creid]

The next time someone complains that DLC is "killing the gaming industry," can we point out how this DLC brought a quarter of a billion dollars into the gaming industry?

 

[Corky]

more than a quarter billion revenue from these map packs, I'm betting they're happy.

 

[stuminus3]

Oh shit I just realised Activison sell their map packs through Steamworks, fuck. My plan is useless, I'd just be driving them back to where they came from.

Anyone got a better idea? I think the kids might love Quake Live. I sure love Quake Live.

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

Yeah. Damn people for spending $60 for hundreds of hours of gameplay they like. Those people should be spending that money importing shitty games from Japan, or buying artbooks, or multiple copies of the same game so they can keep one and avoid the greatest hits packaging later, or any number of things gamers blow their money on regularly in the monthly pick-up thread.

*applause*

 

[Mr_Brit]

The next time someone complains that DLC is "killing the gaming industry," can we point out how this DLC brought a quarter of a billion dollars into the gaming industry?

Those quarter of a billion dollars could have been used to finance 100 super-ultra niche JRPGs though. I don't see how any true gamer could live in this world knowing that possibility.

 

[iNvid02]

The sheer bitterness from exactly the type of people you just described is pathetic.

too true

 

[Absinthe]

Seems like a lot of people keep comparing this to TF2, but these are completely different games. The reason COD sells more than team based games like TF2, BFBC2, is because you can still feel like a good player if your alone without a team.

Sure like all FPS's they're better with your friends/clan/team, but with COD if none of those people are on XBL you can still play and have good games on a shitty team if your a good player.

On question, cause I only have TF2 on PC, are all those maps available for free on console as well?

 

[Snuggles]

Oh shit I just realised Activison sell their map packs through Steamworks, fuck. My plan is useless, I'd just be driving them back to where they came from.

Anyone got a better idea?

Maybe we should buy a truckload of MW3 discs then ceremoniously burn them in a heap like they burned the disco records back in the 70's.

 

[kuYuri]

This just about describes the whiners in this thread:

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Does anyone know how much BLOPS sold on the 360 versus the PS3?

 

[AlimNassor]

Quake beats CoD down to the ground. Only reason it's not as popular is because people don't like the steep learning curve.

*sigh* Quake was popular. It sold well enough, it had an active online and had a pro-scene. I have no problem with CoD, it's a fun game when bored, I do have a problem with developers thinking they can copy COD and somehow get a piece of that pie.

 

[stuminus3]

Maybe we should buy a truckload of MW3 discs then ceremoniously burn them in a heap like they burned the disco records back in the 70's.

Great... but... we'd have to buy them...

On question, cause I only have TF2 on PC, are all those maps available for free on console as well?

Microsoft says no. Microsoft are like Kotick's evil twin. It's a double dose of evil. It's like Glenn Danzig and Michale Graves being on the same stage.

 

[Riddick]

lol dudebros

 

[AntiTout]

SONY please buy the IP, then never release a single dlc. Thanks.

 

[AlimNassor]

Right. It's horrible. Something should be done about it! But where do we start?

I'm thinking like forming a street team in the local neighbourhood or something. Print up some flyers to hand out to all the parents around the schools, showing them there's other options.

One kid won't make a difference but maybe with an organised effort and some Steam accounts for everyone we could get enough of them into it at the same time to make a splash. Especially now that TF2 is free to play, that could help with buy in. I'd even go as far as pointing out that $15 for 4 new zombie maps is pretty weak in comparison to Left 4 Dead 2 receiving like what 10 new campaigns since release including all the ported ones from L4D1? Shit goes on sale all the time too.

I might not work but it'd be a start, better than doing nothing.

You guys act as if every other FPS game is dead. Why do you guys want CoD fans to suddenly start infesting your online games is beyond me. TF2 sold well enough has a large active population, CS 1.6 still has a active online, not every game needs to be like CoD and super popular.

 

[Glass Rebel]

How about we let people spend their own money how they like?

 

[stuminus3]

You guys act as if every other FPS game is dead. Why do you guys want CoD fans to suddenly start infesting your online games is beyond me. TF2 sold well enough has a large active population, CS 1.6 still has a active online, not every game needs to be like CoD and super popular.

Sorry, I'm not sure if you're serious.

 

[alr1ght]

I look forward to $20 DLC and more devs killing franchises by COD-ing it.

 

[PairOfFilthySocks]

How about we let people spend their own money how they like?

How can they when Calladoody is all there is for sale?!

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

So much bitterness from people when CoD success is being discussed. It's kind of sad to see. You don't have to play the games.

 

[Atomski]

I was going to say barf but this was much better.