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Blizzard: consoles soon obsolete, becoming one with PCs
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Razoric said:
Yes. The line has been continually blurred over the years, and it will continue - but what I am simply saying is I don't ever see just the PC and not the console. What I see is a PC/console world where the two work in harmony. Not one overtaking the other and one going away.
gutter_trash
Banned
its the other way around
next gen consoles are becoming central entertament hubs in the comfort if your living room
on your big ass TV
next gen after this one will be a big kick in the nuts to PC gaming as whatever next motha consoles will be in store
surfin the web, playing games, downloading music and tv shows... they will be on console and they are classy and snazzy
next gen consoles are becoming central entertament hubs in the comfort if your living room
on your big ass TV
next gen after this one will be a big kick in the nuts to PC gaming as whatever next motha consoles will be in store
surfin the web, playing games, downloading music and tv shows... they will be on console and they are classy and snazzy
biggreenmachine
The bleeding edge of news reporting...
Razoric said:
Of course I read it. Do you think my response is somehow invalid or do you just enjoy belittling my opinion?
Pureauthor
Member
gutter_trash said:
Some games will always be done better on PC unless a console adopts kb/m as a standard controller.
Companies have been saying that consoles are gonna die at the hands of the PC ever since the 80's. So far it hasn't happened, and I highly doubt it's gonna happen within the next 10-20 years. The average person can't be arsed to download updates, tinker around with drivers, upgrade their video cards/RAM every year or two... they just want to buy a system, hook up some video jacks, put a DVD in the drive, hit power, and play... free of BS.
That's what's said every generation. This one was the same way, before they were out "yep, PC gaming is doomed. It's dead. These consoles will finish them off". And in the end, PC gaming will continue. I for one think that so long as people are using PC's, which will be a long time indeed, there will be games for the platform.gutter_trash said:
djtiesto said:
So basically what you're saying is that as soon as there's a downloadable games service that auto-installs the games you buy online a Dell/HP/Whatever PC is perfect for the average consumer? And upgrading every year or two is of course, bullshit, as has been stated many times before on GAF you can easily use a PC for four years without upgrading and still play every game you want to.
Kabouter said:
You're right, PC games are cheaper. But my time is valuable to me, and I just don't want to fiddle with installs and settings anymore. Not to mention the number of times I have brought home PC games fired up to play only to find they don't work at all due to some hardware incompatibility, with a patch to come later(Darkstar One, i'm looking at you). It's just not fun anymore.
plagiarize
Banned
i'd say pc games are usually $40 to $50 here. most games are $40, but the bigger games tend to be $50.Kabouter said:
basically, as someone who used to live in the uk, PC games are one of the few things that get a fair conversion rate where as console games get the normal mark up.
Tobor said:
Yeah, I just never have those experiences. And of course, installing is something that usually takes under a minute and an install usually stays in place for a good few months. As for settings, there's hope for you yet, the WinSAT tool in Vista determines your machine's performance and games will be able to use it's findings to determine the best settings for the game.
plagiarize said:
Probably part of the reason why PC gaming is still huge in Europe.
I used to say the same thing you're all saying. Don't want to upgrade all the time, want to play on the big screen TV from the couch, the games are all the same, blah blah woof, but then I bought a mid-line graphics card for a mere $125 and started buying lots of games, and reading websites and mags about what has recently come out and what's in the future, and I'm a total convert. PC gaming is as great as it's ever been. Believe me, there are many more varied games in different genres than you think. It's just the PC gaming media isn't as, er, centralized as the console gaming press. You have to go looking for information instead of every game and news item always being represented on the major sites.
$125 card (7600 GS) and I can play any game I want, and run it well, too. 360 pads work great in most action games, wired or wireless. The cry of "too expensive" is very misguided.
$125 card (7600 GS) and I can play any game I want, and run it well, too. 360 pads work great in most action games, wired or wireless. The cry of "too expensive" is very misguided.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Draft said:
And then buy a second video card in 2 years for $300? Yeah right. :lol
biggreenmachine
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Tobor said:
I had similar problems also. Regardless, you can't compare PCs to consoles in terms of value. When was the last time a PC manufacturer sold their computer at a loss? Consoles are designed around the economy of making money on game software by promoting and sponsoring development.
I don't think I have ever seen a $500 PC I would consider a gaming PC good enough for the next 6 months let alone 5 years worth. Console gaming, like PC gaming isn't going anywhere anytime soon IMO.
:lol Right...
Anyway, it seems I've been doing most my PC gaming behind the hardware curve for the last 3 or 4 years. As long as you're not obsessed with playing titles as soon as they hit shelves, it's easier and far cheaper to upgrade to an average gaming rig every few years and play the best games you had missed due to hardware limitations.
The problem with having this discussion here is that we have alot of members that are Gamefaqs rejects that spew the same misinformation over and over without thinking. ("PC's need to upgrade every year", etc) So, I won't waste my time.
...and that is the reason why console gaming will never die. There are enough stupid people in the world that will want their gaming experience dumbed down as much as possible. Limit my controls, limit my options, limit the amount of time I need for setup. Nothing wrong with that .. gaming doesn't need to be rocket science.
...and that is the reason why console gaming will never die. There are enough stupid people in the world that will want their gaming experience dumbed down as much as possible. Limit my controls, limit my options, limit the amount of time I need for setup. Nothing wrong with that .. gaming doesn't need to be rocket science.
ElectricBlue187
Member
It's a progression that's been going on for years, PC's becoming more like consoles (especially with this Games for Windows crap), and consoles becoming more like PC's (with the internet browsers and Xbox Live, etc)
It's not crazy to think consoles of the future will just be highly specialized PCs, I mean you've almost got one in a PS3 that runs linux already!
It's not crazy to think consoles of the future will just be highly specialized PCs, I mean you've almost got one in a PS3 that runs linux already!
Great post. Would read again.VALIS said:
Also, the best PC exclusive last year was Armadillo Run. And it's just 14.99. Show me something comparable on a console and I'll eat my hat.
Kabouter said:
The funny thing is they are. Oblivion, Unreal Tournament, Ghost Recon, etc etc are all "PC Games" being played on a consoles that have PC-like features. All the needs to happen now is MS release a new Xbox that plays Vista PC games and the world collision will be complete. You will have a $400 box playing PC games on your TV.... just like what he's saying.
biggreenmachine
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Kabouter said:
I am curious as to the specs.
ElectricBlue187
Member
The biggest thing keeping this from happening is the fact that alot of console based developers are used to developing titles on a specific set of hardware, I think it would be a hurdle to convince them to create games for an open platform like the PC in which hardware is interchangeable. I think that's the main difference between 'Console' and 'Personal Computer' that will live on for several generations to come at least.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
ElectricBlue187 said:
So you basically explained the exact reason why PCs will never be the leading platform in the videogame arena.
ElectricBlue187
Member
Razoric said:
for that to happen the Xbox would have to be designed to allow open platform games, something I doubt very seriously any of the big three are very crazy about since they make so much money of their exclusive games.
uh.........no i didn't. if the line is blurred enough a console == pc
There is no need to get defensive and start down the "consoles are for dummies" road, people. I am perfectly capable of building my own PC, installing all the software and drivers I need, and installing and tweaking the games to get the best performance I can. I just don't want to. It's not about the cost of computer hardware, it's about how I want to spend my time. If Vista truly eases all of that, then great. To be honest though, between the 360, Wii and DS, I have more games than time as it is. I'm probably going to buy a macbook and call it a day.
Mark Gonzales
Banned
:lol
Yeah, i'm sure the best video cards back then like a radeon 9000 series or geoforce still runs all PC games well.......at 800 x 600 resolution with no AA
Kabouter said:
Yeah, i'm sure the best video cards back then like a radeon 9000 series or geoforce still runs all PC games well.......at 800 x 600 resolution with no AA
plagiarize
Banned
eh, you get what you pay for. if you buy a top of the line PC it's going to last. i plan on doing that this summer.Dr_Cogent said:
yeah we're talking stupid money, but that gives me a machine with a console style lifetime, and a lot more uses.
a laptop... well yeah, that's going to become obsolete faster and more so it's a bitch to upgrade stuff on a laptop.
but don't think i'm a console games < pc games though.
i love games. on any system. each has it's very specific advantages. one of the things i'm going to do when i put together my new pc is run some long calbes from my pc to my tv and sound system so i can play stuff on the couch (only stuff that you'd use a pad for mind, FPS will still get played at my desk with mouse and keys).
i guess they are converging, but i don't think they'll ever fully converge.
The article is about bringing blizzard games to the console, since they were/are best suited for pc. Not console vs pc in general. They are gonna watch the console, and see if I game can be brought there.
This thread title is VERY misleading. On new sites they have things like "WOW on consoles?" for the title.
This thread title is VERY misleading. On new sites they have things like "WOW on consoles?" for the title.
Kabouter said:
That video card is ancient. I have a faster video card than that and I feel like mine is totally out of date. I have a 6800 GT.
plagiarize said:
Not long enough. Not as long as a console will. No one is going to change my mind regarding the situation. I've been PC gaming since the days of the Commodore 64, XT, ...
I'm done.
The Radeon 9700 Pro truly was a marvellous card. served me well in excess of 2 years. (And I'm not usually happy with medium settings)
Also, I got a new avatar. If there's one platform that needs defense against unfounded and uninformed opinionating on GAF, then it's the PC. Now I'll go back to playing Supreme Commander demo and dreaming about the one PC future :lol
Also, I got a new avatar. If there's one platform that needs defense against unfounded and uninformed opinionating on GAF, then it's the PC. Now I'll go back to playing Supreme Commander demo and dreaming about the one PC future :lol
Regardless of your stance on the expenses of PC gaming, the notion of having one PC as stated by Ben Bassat is ridiculous. Unless I'm terribly misinterpreting that sentence, he's suggesting Sony and Nintendo might suddenly decide to drop out of the hardware business and develop software for a what is essentially a Microsoft driven and controlled platform in the near future? Not happening. Current and future consoles will continue borrow and integrate PC-type services on a limited basis, but as long as there is no unified platform for console gaming, there's little chance we'll see a market-wide amalgamation of the two.
But isn't that what he implied?
Is there another way of logically interpreting that statement?
Razoric said:
But isn't that what he implied?
Is there another way of logically interpreting that statement?
Pureauthor
Member
DeathNote said:
Why would they bother? They have around 8 million active subscribers (in other words, not counting those who've given money to Blizz in the past but don't do so anymore) for WoW, and the number would have jumped with the Burning Crusade coming out.
revolverjgw
Member
VALIS said:
No competition = bad games
More games=more money?Pureauthor said:
They aren't gonna stop putting into WOW if they make a new game. They announced a new exp every year.
Based on your argument, they shouldn't make a new Stracraft for the pc right? Cause their are rumors of that, or another mmorpg. It would be stupid right? They should only milk WOW forever?