family_guy
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Must have been in a contract somewhere that the game will only be funded if they do a PC version, but they'd rather not have to support PC users, so intentionally make an inferior version.
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Blue Reflection Steam storescreens at 720p, hilarity ensues [Supports 4K, 144FPS]
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Hell, if you want to be cynical still but more realistic, a lot of people have paid more attention to Musou games, myself included, partially thanks to games like Hyrule Warriors coming out. And I believe Nintendo's actually been pretty good on the review front generally, though I think there was an incident with Donkey Konga 2 years ago at GameSpy... but that could be an Editor just being an idiot.
If this was an outlier it MIGHT be plausible, but it keeps happening. It's probably a gross misunderstanding of the audience (or probably more accurately the potential for the platform relative to the audiences it serves) and if you're lucky the people who are in charge of porting MIGHT know better and actually deliver a quality product. But usually they don't.
What do you base this off? It makes no sense to me whatsoever. This will only hurt themselves and maybe even relationship with people who funds them.
Battlechili
Banned
The worst part is is that I'm still tempted to buy this x_x
I own Atelier Sophie already anyways and I was happy with it overall.
I'll probably just buy it and then give it a negative review as my complaint to KT. Already sent in a support ticket.
I own Atelier Sophie already anyways and I was happy with it overall.
I'll probably just buy it and then give it a negative review as my complaint to KT. Already sent in a support ticket.
Elaugaufein
Member
This seems unlikely. Atlus was quick to embrace the potential of portables after the PS2 gen. And they are pretty much the only remaining holdout in the niche localisers group when it comes to PC ports which demonstrates they aren't being forced. If Atlus decided to do PC releases and they sucked its more likely to be due to unfamiliarity than malice.
Atlus is also part of Sega now who has experienced PC programmers who would at least make the port passable.
CertifiedFP
Member
I think uh, the biggest factor here is that...
The only PS4 Version enhancement I can think of is being 1080p.
So the only way they'd make a PC port worse than the PS4 version is a 720p lock.
Elaugaufein
Member
But why would the PS4 version need to be superior in the first place ? That'd be like nobbling a PS4 game so the Switch could have better FPS.
Plumpbiscuit
Member
someone posted this in steam review of the game, you can edit the config file to add 1080p manually
Right, but the art assets themselves are in 720p resolution.
It was never about the actual resolution, but the resolution of the 2D assets.someone posted this in steam review of the game, you can edit the config file to add 1080p manually
also, the FPS us capped at monitor refresh rate, so it can reaches to 144 FPS.
Thread title is very misleading.
Sephiroth87
Member
Did you actually check the assets or are still basing it on that poorly translated ticket?
Comparing screenshots posted in the community hub with youtube videos from the PS4 version, while not a good way to compare, at a first glance there's no downgrade (at the very least textures wise).
@ezodagrom good from what people said on forums say it looks pretty much the same as PS4 version with same messy shadows that are on PS4 , also push it to 4K and is overall better port than Ateliers
.... so i guess the support ticket was just messy PR or baddly transalted support
But WTF with the prices of Season pass :-O
.... so i guess the support ticket was just messy PR or baddly transalted support
But WTF with the prices of Season pass :-O
PC:I don't see any 2D assets there.
You need to compare the menus
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....466/E656C65FFCAECF4EE890B62D5A89FE0625DB83CE/
PS4 (from a youtube video):
https://i.imgur.com/z0ivkQY.jpg
Steam compression vs youtube compression, there's some very noticeable artifacts in the PC screenshot's UI elements (for example, the blue gear), but I have no idea if it's due to steam's compression or not.
If its just stuff like that than its not much of a big deal
Indeed, the downgrade in art assets was noticeable on Atelier Sophie, even some textures were worse than on PS4, but in Blue Reflection there doesn't seem to be much of an issue.
InquisitorAles
Member
I can assure you that Steam compression become a non-issue long time ago. If there is any artifact, that's game fault, not Steam
Sephiroth87
Member
I can assure you JPEGs will always have compression artifacts no matter what you think...
Look at the shirt collar, it looks more textured in the PC screenshot. It's just compression artifacts...
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InquisitorAles
Member
It's good to have expert like you here, while 99% people can't see difference.
Sephiroth87
Member
It's not about being experts, JPEG it's a lossy compression, by definition it will have artifacts... If the screenshots were PNGs it would be a different discussion...
Just a bad thread title.
Battlechili
Banned
Th-thanks
Yes, it is lossy, but no, artifacts won't be visible with highest quality setting.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=58594073&postcount=123
Steam doesn't save/upload at max quality though.
someone posted this in steam review of the game, you can edit the config file to add 1080p manually
BRsetting.ini located in C:\Users\[USERNAME]\Documents\KoeiTecmo\BLUE REFLECTION
also, the FPS us capped at monitor refresh rate, so it can reaches to 144 FPS.
What!? I have to edit a friggin config file to change resolutions!?
Dream_Journey
Member
I captured some screenshots from Youtube for comparison, i except much worse than this, at least game is not Firis level of bad as graphic. But i wonder about performance.
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
You only do that when you want the resolution that is not provided in the game.
That youtube video from the PC version doesn't look good at all, shots posted in the community hub are not blurry like that.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....500/F427213ED56F95BED76D2E00D7E848D1EBD88EBF/
Performance wise, reportedly it has framerate drops at 4K with a GTX 1070.
It's not great but it isn't awful either, seems pretty average by KT standards.
Drops below 60 or below 30? Actually, what is it running on on PS4 res/framerate wise?
Sephiroth87
Member
Sure, except, https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/21204/why-do-jpeg-files-blur-red-more-than-other-colors
which is why it's probably fine for in-game screenshots, but the game's menus are basically the worst case scenario for JPEG...
texhnolyze
Banned
Ok, I see the differences but they're pretty minor. It's pretty much the same level of graphics overall.
I guess it was just abad PR response, after all.
I assume it's below 60:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/658260/discussions/0/1495615865230394725/#c1495615865230465380
No idea about the PS4 version. ^^;
EDIT: 1080 Ti runs at 60 at 4K with 80~100% GPU usage, apparently:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/658260/discussions/0/1495615865230394725/?ctp=3#c1495615865230585867
That's not full quality jpeg file there, at max quality any artifacts will be near invisible at 100% zoom regardless of content.
Here, a similar example I found when googling for higher quality one: image
The thread you linked is not talking about max quality jpeg's because it defeats the purpose in areas they would use this format.
Users screenshots on Steam looks fine btw
Wow, this look amazing!
I don't know much about this game, how is the gameplay? Looks like a mix of daily life and idol mahou shoujo stuff? Not a fan of the latter, but I'd tolerate it if the daily life part is good.
At a first glance, looks like there's no downgrade though.
Well, we'd have to see the 2d assets to find out. The ticket wasn't talking about the 3d assets.
GhostTrick
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