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BMW M3 - E92

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Dark Octave said:
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What's the difference?

:lol
 
Madvillain said:
the 1 series convertible does indeed look girly. the 1.35 is a beast though. I'd take that over a Z4 any day of the week. As far as the track goes, the 1.35 actually out performs the 3.35i (go figure).

The 1 Series is essentially the new 2002, and I gotta say, they did a hell of a job with it.

I need to stay the hell away from the BMW dealer. If I wasn't trying to buy a house + get married right now, the 135i would be sooo mine. :P
 
Guys, I'm single. Wife and kids aren't my concern.

The reason I'm going with the sedan over the coupe, is because I'm buying, not leasing, so I want to think down the line as much as possible. I know having those 2 doors in back are gonna make all the difference when all is said and done.

Not to mention, that aside from the tail lights, I actually like the way the sedan looks more. Kind of. I can't put my finger on it, but the sedan kinda still gives that feel of luxury over sport.
 
Madvillain said:
Guys, I'm single. Wife and kids aren't my concern.

The reason I'm going with the sedan over the coupe, is because I'm buying, not leasing, so I want to think down the line as much as possible. I know having those 2 doors in back are gonna make all the difference when all is said and done.

Not to mention, that aside from the tail lights, I actually like the way the sedan looks more. Kind of. I can't put my finger on it, but the sedan kinda still gives that feel of luxury over sport.

If you want more luxury why not look at the 5 series? or 6 or .....7? :D
 
Madvillain said:
Golem:
BMW knows what they're doing with that pricing scheme.

I tell you, I went from a 1.35i, to a 3.35i, to an M3 in the span of 2 weeks. I know the M3 is where I'm staying though. The M3 is what I've always wanted since I was 14. Since it suddenly became within reach, I'm totally jumping on it. I'll only be 24 once.

Just watch this:
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/Vehicles/2008/M/MExplore.aspx

this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5V876ZGAmg

and google the episode of Top Gear where they pit it against a C63 AMG, and RS4.

You'll be done with.


I'm going with manual all the way.

Did you win the lottery?
 
Madvillain said:
because I want an M, and an M5 is like, twice the price of an M3.


nope. just working hard and getting rewarded for it.

Oh, that's cool then. Even with a Master's Degree in Electrical Engineering, I can't afford one of those .... well on top of everything else.

Time to stop working for a utility company :(
 
Madvillain said:
and google the episode of Top Gear where they pit it against a C63 AMG, and RS4.

If you quote Top Gear which basically said performance and driving feel then obviously you should be getting the sedan or coupe.

Crayon said:
The M3 is a twisted mockery of it's former self.

Totally agree, the M division becoming the AMG of BMW just hurts. It will be a truly sad day when the M division gets their hands on the X5 and X6.
 
You know, the look of the car obviously isn't what you normally expect from BMW. I think it shows that it wasn't designed by a german, but to say that the car isn't what it used to be is insane.

Granted, yes, they did perfect the inline six engine with the 2006 M3 (and the CSL), but you're kidding yourself if you don't think the new M3 is up to the previous cars standards as far as performance goes.

V8 / 414 Horse Power!!!!

It's also lighter than the previous generation M3 from what I understand.
 
Madvillain said:
V8 / 414 Horse Power!!!!

It's also lighter than the previous generation M3 from what I understand.

Christ power isn't everything.

And no it's not lighter, from Wikipedia:

E92
Convertible: 4145 lb
Coupe: 3704 lb
Sedan: 3726 lb

E46
Coupe: 3,415 lb

That convertible is a pig, and getting it for performance is a waste of money.
 
B!TCH said:
M3 is $60-70K. Stop being bitter. It's not a good look.
Bitter about what?

On another note, funny how these threads always turn into a "OMG OP, what do you do for a living?" First, what does it matter? Congrats to the OP for working hard and getting what you want. The M3 is a great choice, though I think I'd get a C63 if they made them in 6- speed. Or wait for the new RS4. Second, it's a $60k car, not an Aston Martin. Chill out.
 
It's actually 54k. I'm gonna get it for 50k though since it'll be in cash. I'd even consider getting an 08 since it would be even cheaper, but the iDrive on the 09 is sooooo much better.

Anyways, thanks for the kind words Bboy.
 
I dunno I never really liked the look of BMW convertibles and have therefore always prefered the coupes/sedans because they look that much sleeker but have a convertible is fun. :D It really depends on if you think the novelty of a convertible will wear off quickly, if it won't get the convertible.
 
I never cease to be amazed by people's poor taste in cars. Convertible? WTF?

There's only one right answer in this thread, and I see that answer everyday in the parking garage at work.

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Pizza Luigi said:
Why can't you just buy the normal M3. Not the sedan but the coupe.
space and convenience.

I will admit, I do loooove the coupe, but something about the sedan just seems more elegant to me.
 
Zyzyxxz said:
Even though I love it here, he would have to consider those super sunny days, and the only days it wont be above 85 F are gonna be cloudy days.

During the summer it will be useless since all the air round here is gonna be hot.

True, but why not ride around with the an active A/C like the Saudis do in the desert? If you're gonna go bling, go big bling with outdoor A/C...

Your point is valid tho...
 
Madvillain said:
space and convenience.

As long as we're on this subject, it really is amazing how much BMW is able to charge for a sedan that has about the same interior space as a Honda Civic.
 
Madvillain said:
space and convenience.

I will admit, I do loooove the coupe, but something about the sedan just seems more elegant to me.

M3's should only be offered as coupe's.

M5 is the M sedan.

/pureist view.
 
sonarrat said:
As long as we're on this subject, it really is amazing how much BMW is able to charge for a sedan that has about the same interior space as a Honda Civic.
Speaking of which, how about that Civic SI? I say that's totally the best value out there right now performance wise.

cilonen said:
M3's should only be offered as coupe's.

M5 is the M sedan.

/pureist view.
You know, I can definitely see the logic behind that argument, but like i said, I can't quite put my finger on it. Something about that sedan just feels right to me.
 
Madvillain said:
Speaking of which, how about that Civic SI? I say that's totally the best value out there right now performance wise.


You know, I can definitely see the logic behind that argument, but like i said, I can't quite put my finger on it. Something about that sedan just feels right to me.

5s are too old for you. I assume you're under 40. Save something for yourself for later.

I owned a 5 series for a little while and ended up hating it. Felt like an old man and the car was way too big. Power was fine but was way too big. Ended up trading it in for a smaller and faster Audi and am happier for it.

Enjoy the toy and let us know how it works out.
 
Madvillain said:
You know, I can definitely see the logic behind that argument, but like i said, I can't quite put my finger on it. Something about that sedan just feels right to me.

To be honest I agree. I love the M5's engine, but think all the electronics on the new one took the heart out of it a bit, especially the auto 'box with it's numerous modes and the fact that you have to activate 'M' mode for the car to use all of it's power. M cars should be full-on all the time.

The M3 is still quite pure and you can still spec it with a manual 'box. (Although, now I write that I have a sneaking suspicion that BMW relented and offered a manual on the M5 for the US market).

Speaking of Civics I've got one of these, a UK Type-R (this one's not mine, but same colour)

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It's fun to drive, by which I mean really responsive and there's an art to keeping it in it's powerband (6-9000 rpm; amazing NA engine, i think it's a very similar unit to the one in the Si). It's quite a bit better over long distances than the old one, but a little less 'hardcore buzz-box'. Of course, the ultimate civic is still the JDM Type-R...

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But the older version of the K20 engine in that won't meet euro emmissions regulaitons, and relies on very high octane fuel common in Japan (but not universally available and very expensive over here) to get it's higher compression ratio. For the money they give a decent thrill though :)
 
Just another reason to not get a convertible: They break. And when they do, they are fucking expensive to fix. I just got a 2000 MBZ SKL about five months ago, and the top broke about a month in. Got stuck in the down position. Well, that sucked ass, but it was ever worse finding out that JUST FOR THE PART it would cost $1000. Then you have the mechanic telling me he can't even quote a cost to fix it, because he doesn't even know if he and his men could, as it'd involve taking 2/3rds or the car apart.

So, yeah, my SKL is just a coupe now. Don't ever buy a convertible. >:(
 
Madvillain said:
You know, I can definitely see the logic behind that argument, but like i said, I can't quite put my finger on it. Something about that sedan just feels right to me.
I'm a sedan man myself (I used to own an STI), but when it comes to an M3, I have to agree with some others that the non-convertible coupe is really your best bet. You're single. What do you need 4 doors for (sorry if you've already answered this... coming into the thread with only a few minutes to spare)? :) Thinking of resale? Believe me, when it comes to selling your M3, your audience will know that you bought the right one, and IMO, it's the most desirable out of the bunch. "M" and "Sedan"... ugh... the purist in me just can't take it! LOL Anyway, honestly, when you're dropping that much cash on a car, don't take our word for it. Go with what *you* want and don't look back, or you're destined to start second-guessing yourself. ;)
 
Get a proper Coupe. I've been in a few, and the rear legroom is pretty decent...and this is coming from a guy who's 6'1.
 
Pterion said:
I never cease to be amazed by people's poor taste in cars. Convertible? WTF?

There's only one right answer in this thread, and I see that answer everyday in the parking garage at work.

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Pure. Fucking. Sex. Jesus christ that is a beautiful car :o Black on black on mother fucking black. Love it!
 
Personally as a fellow BMW (coupe) owner, I'm not too into the 4 door style. If I was entertaining clients and this car was going to be my only mode of transportation then I can understand the need, otherwise, I'd truly consider getting the coupe. It might cost a little more but it's a great look.
 
Neither. Coupe. Drop top is a PIG compared to the others, 400+lbs would be noticeable in the twists and unless they change ratio, acceleration as well. M3's to me, will always be coupes, M5's are the 4 door luxo-sport car.

But, if I had the cash, i'd pass on them. As much as I love BMW's and the sweet tones they make, GT-R is just flat out incredible. I saw my first one this past weekend at the dealer (was closed, so I could only drool from the window) but I felt my heart through my penis, and we'll leave it at that. Nothing comes close to that performance for that money. The only thing that does is a Z06, and the interior feels and looks shittier than my old power wheels car, and the seats are made from the finest rats they can skin. Though, they sound like raw sex with a "loud mouth" type exhaust like my friend has on his 03 Z06. But the GT-R with that awesome Ti-exhaust and proper aluminum/carbon intake sounds mind blowing.

Plus, the GT-R's interior looks to be very-very livable day to day as well. Plenty of room, "looks" to be quality stitching on the dash and stuff like the infiniti's, and a nice trunk.
 
The coupe is what you go to school for so many years and work all those hours for at that job you hate. COUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEE
 
J-Rzez said:
Neither. Coupe. Drop top is a PIG compared to the others, 400+lbs would be noticeable in the twists and unless they change ratio, acceleration as well. M3's to me, will always be coupes, M5's are the 4 door luxo-sport car.

But, if I had the cash, i'd pass on them. As much as I love BMW's and the sweet tones they make, GT-R is just flat out incredible. I saw my first one this past weekend at the dealer (was closed, so I could only drool from the window) but I felt my heart through my penis, and we'll leave it at that. Nothing comes close to that performance for that money. The only thing that does is a Z06, and the interior feels and looks shittier than my old power wheels car, and the seats are made from the finest rats they can skin. Though, they sound like raw sex with a "loud mouth" type exhaust like my friend has on his 03 Z06. But the GT-R with that awesome Ti-exhaust and proper aluminum/carbon intake sounds mind blowing.

Plus, the GT-R's interior looks to be very-very livable day to day as well. Plenty of room, "looks" to be quality stitching on the dash and stuff like the infiniti's, and a nice trunk.

GT-R looks insane! I';ve only seen two so far. A black one and a red one. Both incredibly nice. Any way the convert looks horrible, the coupe looks way better. Black on black is always the best options IMO.
 
Madvillain said:
Speaking of which, how about that Civic SI? I say that's totally the best value out there right now performance wise.

Well, I'm not really into performance cars these days but I sold Hondas circa 2004 and I loved the Si. I would have bought one, if it wasn't for the fact that insurance would have cost me $6000 a year (no exaggeration).
 
n1n9tean said:
Exactly. He lives in LA. You never know when a bum might fall out from behind some bushes onto the road.

TRUNK SPACE.
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If you're dead set on the convertible, just get the 335i. An M3 convertible is like the biggest oxymoron ever, especially with the 400 or so pounds the retractable hardtop adds.
 
Madvillain said:
I'm an Acquisitions Executive.

I'll leave it at that.


So you're a bank robber? :D


The M3 looks lite a great car, a friend of mine has the M6 and that thing is insane.
 
that isn't a race car. it's just a machine designed to go fast. it does a great job at it, but on the track, the M3 will take it out, no problem.
 
Madvillain said:
that isn't a race car. it's just a machine designed to go fast. it does a great job at it, but on the track, the M3 will take it out, no problem.
The 3M isn't a race car either. None of these cars are. Especially a sedan.
 
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