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[Kermit The Frog]

What was the explanation for Gus not getting in his car?

 

[Salsa]

Team Walt. The guy was dying and did what he had to to provide for his family. As things got out of control he did what he had to to survive. He's not evil, he's any of us in that same fucked-up situation. That's the genius of the show, it shows what everyday people can be capable of when they get out of their depth.

After all that crap wouldnt you just take the hit and go to jail/die while managing to get your family as far away as possible? that's what i'd do, specially with terminal cancer. I wouldnt try to include myself in on the plans of doing a complete relocation through Saul's guy.

What was the explanation for Gus not getting in his car?

Same as why he checked Tio's room with the metal detector. He's just wary, one step ahead.

 

[triplestation]

Walt said it himself, she was fucking poison to Jess.

Got him hooked on w/e shit she was taking (I forgot, was it crack or heroin?).
Her eyes fucking lite up when Jess told her how much Walt owed him.
She takes over and tries to blackmail Walt into giving them the money (which Jess is currently unable to handle correctly because he is addicted to the drugs she introduced to him).
The second Walt brings the money she goes after it like a fucking tiger. It was VERY CLEAR that she was planing on using Jess up for her own enjoyment and benefit.

By NOT stepping in and saving her he was allowing this poison to get out of Jess's life. Now look at Jess ... still being used but at least now he is clean and has a good thing going with a good family.

These two points here are my main reasons for being SO happy when she died.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Stick with the last one. Walking Dead is Walking Dreck. Haven't tried Boardwalk but I hear it's more like Boredwalk.

Boardwalk is a good show, but it seems to be consistently satisfied with being a B player in the A-team's uniform. I try to save the whole seasons to watch in large chunks, I'd feel like watching them episode by episode would just make it seem even less compelling.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

What was the explanation for Gus not getting in his car?

He never poisoned Brock, so he knew something was wrong when Jesse mentioned it.

 

[Gary Whitta]

After all that crap wouldnt you just take the hit and go to jail/die while managing to get your family as far away as possible? that's what i'd do, specially with terminal cancer. I wouldnt try to include myself in on the plans of doing a complete relocation through Saul's guy.




Same as why he checked Tio's room with the metal detector. He's just wary, one step ahead.

I think you underestimate the human instinct for self-preservation.

 

[Kraftwerk]

 

[Discotheque]

Stick with the last one. Walking Dead is Walking Dreck. Haven't tried Boardwalk but I hear it's more like Boredwalk.

maybe for people with ADD.

Van Alden and Richard Harrow alone could carry that series. GOT was a pretty meh show, now that was a boring one for most of the time. I love the books but I wish this got better showrunners.

 

[onlyindreams]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJWpFv-I96E

 

[Black-Wind]

how did jesse help?

he could have killed gus without poisoning broc

How did Jess help?

With out Jess telling Saul about Gus's relationship with the old man Walt wouldn't have known that there was an enemy of Gus's out there who Gus would NEVER even think knows Walt and that their relationship is so effed up that Gus personally feels the need to torment him in person.

 

[brianjones]

from high school chem teacher to supervillain

character development

With out Jess telling Saul about Gus's relationship with the old man Walt wouldn't have known that there was a enemy of Gus's out there who Gus would NEVER even think knows Walt and that their relationship is so effed up that Gus personally feels the need to torment him in person.

even that sentence is contrived

 

[Gary Whitta]

lol wut

You're saying you'd turn to meth cooking instead of get a high paying research job?

No wait, you're saying that's what we would ALL do.

holy shit

So you're saying the entire show is built on a faulty premise?

 

[Salsa]

Walt said it himself, she was fucking poison to Jess.

Got him hooked on w/e shit she was taking (I forgot, was it crack or heroin?).
Her eyes fucking lite up when Jess told her how much Walt owed him.
She takes over and tries to blackmail Walt into giving them the money (which Jess is currently unable to handle correctly because he is addicted to the drugs she introduced to him).
The second Walt brings the money she goes after it like a fucking tiger. It was VERY CLEAR that she was planing on using Jess up for her own enjoyment and benefit.

By NOT stepping in and saving her he was allowing this poison to get out of Jess's life. Now look at Jess ... still being used but at least now he is clean and has a good thing going with a good family.

yeah.. the fact that she was getting way to close to knowing what was going on and was getting Jesse hooked again/distracted/thinking of walking away of the whole thing and expose Walt had nothing to do with his decision, he was doing it for Jesse's sake all along....

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

These two points here are my main reasons for being SO happy when she died.

She was high on drugs in all these sequences.

She was also in recovery. Mind boggling to think someone like that is sinister much less deserving of being left to die.

Maybe Walt and Jesse should just lace their Meth with ricin and we could wipe out all those junkies, huh, Mark-Wahlberg-In-The-Other-Guys?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

So you're saying the entire show is built on a faulty premise?

Not at all. It's built around a morally repugnant protagonist. I think Walter White's life is built on a faulty premise, that it's better be a criminal than accept charity.

 

[Salsa]

I think you underestimate the human instinct for self-preservation.

well how could we know..

 

[Gary Whitta]

well how could we know..

Indeed, indeed.

 

[MikeTyson]

What was the explanation for Gus not getting in his car?

Gus thought it was WAY to predictable. I would have done the same thing.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Walking Dead is terrible. Not The Killing bad, but it's almost unwatchable.

AMC is so fucked in 2 years.

edit: well, at least TWD is popular, they've got that going for them.

 

[kehs]

I can see where Whitta is coming from, during my last checkup I had a small infection, so I started turning tricks for cash.

 

[ezekial45]

Same as why he checked Tio's room with the metal detector. He's just wary, one step ahead.

That wasn't a metal detector. It was a device to find bugs and other surveillance equipment.

 

[Discotheque]

Walking Dead is terrible. Not The Killing bad, but it's almost unwatchable.

AMC is so fucked in 2 years.

edit: well, at least TWD is popular, they've got that going for them.

The Walking Dead is their Dexter.

They don't give a shit about the quality of their programs. they just want the ratings. TWD is getting more viewers than Breaking Bad or Mad Men.

 

[Salsa]

Indeed, indeed.

I guess it just depends on what you could think one would be able to do in order to survive. I just see an easier solution that considering the circumstances would seem like the easy way out (not talking about downright killing yourself, but rather accept what's coming to you and let the people you involved unwillingly walk awy).

I dont disagree that Walt wants to live, with all his gut, im just saying that the "he's doing everything he can to save his family" statement is wrong. He could be doing more. He cares about himself first. That, overall is what makes him a bad guy. Is it a statement on how a regular dude can turn (break) bad under this extreme of a situation? for sure, but it doesnt make it any less bad!

He's a selfish asshole, if anyone of us would become the same is an entirely different thing.

 

[triplestation]

She was high on drugs in all these sequences.

She was also in recovery. Mind boggling to think someone like that is sinister much less deserving of being left to die.

Maybe Walt and Jesse should just lace their Meth with ricin and we could wipe out all those junkies, huh, Mark-Wahlberg-In-The-Other-Guys?

I don't care if that bitch was high. The contrast between that night and earlier when she was outside the house with Jesse wasn't much different at all.

Jesse: He's my partner..

Jane: I'm your partner.

Fuck you bitch, only partners you'll be having now is maggots and worms.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I don't care if that bitch was high. The contrast between that night and earlier when she was outside the house with Jesse wasn't much different at all.

Jesse: He's my partner..

Jane: I'm your partner.

Fuck you bitch, only partners you'll be having now is maggots and worms.

Cool misogyny, bro. She totally deserved to choke on her own vomit and die.

 

[Grinchy]

Stick with the last one. Walking Dead is Walking Dreck. Haven't tried Boardwalk but I hear it's more like Boredwalk.

This is true if you're 12 years old or if you have the attention span and comprehension level of a 12 year old.

 

[Gary Whitta]

Let me clarify, I'm not for one second suggesting Walt is a good guy. I'm saying I understand why we are able to root for him despite all the horrible things he's done. That's the genius of this show.

 

[sixteen-bit]

The Walking Dead is their Dexter.

They don't give a shit about the quality of their programs. they just want the ratings. TWD is getting more viewers than Breaking Bad or Mad Men.

Yeah. TWD has 5 viewers for every 1 MM or BB viewer. :/

 

[Salsa]

Let me clarify, I'm not for one second suggesting Walt is a good guy. I'm saying I understand why we are able to root for him despite all the horrible things he's done. That's the genius of this show.

oh yeah, agreed. He's definetly written as likeable and the character youre supposed to cheer for, if only because his downfall is the whole basis of the show, and you just want to keep watching that building crumble to the ground.

 

[Gary Whitta]

Off-topic but based on what I have seen I think TWD is really going to step it up this season.

 

[fifasnipe2224]

BWahahahahah!
Convincing old man to kill him self. Priceless

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Let me clarify, I'm not for one second suggesting Walt is a good guy. I'm saying I understand why we are able to root for him despite all the horrible things he's done. That's the genius of this show.

I think you can enjoy the show and not root for him. In fact, I had a blast watching him get flouted at every turn this season, exposed for the buffoon he really is.

He did win, though, but I wasn't like, "WOO!" satisfied.

I don't know how you can root for the guy when he manipulated the only people left in his corner and poisoned a child.

 

[8sanders]

That this show can make so many people root for and sympathize with a mass drug producing multiple murderer just shows you how fucking amazing it is.

Indeed. Similar to "The Shield "

 

[dave is ok]

Breaking Bad = Villain Porn

I will love Walt until he finally gets the death he deserves so so much.

Or until every character on the show is dead except for him, and he truly 'won'

 

[Salsa]

Off-topic but based on what I have seen I think TWD is really going to step it up this season.

really hope so

 

[triplestation]

Cool misogyny, bro. She totally deserved to choke on her own vomit and die.

It's far too kind to consider that pest a woman.

 

[scar tissue]

Cool misogyny, bro. She totally deserved to choke on her own vomit and die.

So when you say an asshole guy deserves to die it's ok, but if you say an asshole woman deserves to die, it's misogyny?
Shut the fuck up. Seriously.

 

[fifasnipe2224]

Breaking Bad = Villain Porn

I will love Walt until he finally gets the death he deserves so so much.

Or until every character on the show is dead except for him, and he truly 'won'

Im calling it now. Walt and Saul will be the only ones alive at the end. MAYBE Wendy

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

Inevitably we're going to see the result of Gus' past coming to bite Walt.

 

[brianjones]

YEAH SCIENCE

 

[ezekial45]

Off-topic but based on what I have seen I think TWD is really going to step it up this season.

I hope that Darabont's absence won't be too noticeable. How many episodes from this coming season was he a part of?

 

[Gary Whitta]

It's hard to imagine a happy ending for Walt, I think he has to die. Jesse will make it. That's my prediction.

The only thing that will really piss me off is if they kill Hank, I fucking love that dude. I think of him like a friend, or at least a friend I'd like to have.

 

[Salsa]

Inevitably we're going to see the result of Gus' past coming to bite Walt.

what do you mean by that?

I dont see any other threat being present besides getting caught. Sure there's "henchmen" laying around, but like they give a fuck once that the dude who pays them is gone.

 

[dave is ok]

I kind of don't want meth to be a big factor in the last season. They really can't go any higher than they already have. It'd be sad to see Jesse and Walt cooking small time again.

Of course, Walt is basically broke - but he did give his family a way to survive from the car wash revenue

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

So when you say an asshole guy deserves to die it's ok, but if you say an asshole woman deserves to die, it's misogyny?
Shut the fuck up. Seriously.

Wait who did I say deserved to die? And he called her a bitch, by the way. Suddenly that's not misogynistic?

 

[Salsa]

I kind of don't want meth to be a big factor in the last season. They really can't go any higher than they already have. It'd be sad to see Jesse and Walt cooking small time again.

Of course, Walt is basically broke - but he did give his family a way to survive from the car wash revenue

Dont see why would he need money know..

It's hard to imagine a happy ending for Walt, I think he has to die. Jesse will make it. That's my prediction.

The only thing that will really piss me off is if they kill Hank, I fucking love that dude. I think of him like a friend, or at least a friend I'd like to have.

It would be beyond cruel for no reason, lol. Dude already survived through hell!

 

[Lonestar]

Indeed. Similar to "The Shield "

I feel that the show will have a similar sort of ending. Some kind of "bringing home the message" moment.

Through all the years, there was this strange "pulling for Vic" feeling. But once the Next-to-Last episode aired, you truly and finally realized what kind of person he was.

 

[triplestation]

Wait who did I say deserved to die? And he called her a bitch, by the way. Suddenly that's not misogynistic?

??? I'd call a dude a bitch, too. So would Jesse.

 

[Battersea Power Station]

Walking Dead is terrible. Not The Killing bad, but it's almost unwatchable.

AMC is so fucked in 2 years.

edit: well, at least TWD is popular, they've got that going for them.

Bullshit. The Walking Dead is one of the best shows on TV. I haven't even looked at the comic book, though.

 

[Angry Fork]

Wait who did I say deserved to die? And he called her a bitch, by the way. Suddenly that's not misogynistic?

Calling a woman a bitch is not misogynistic if she is one.