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Breaking: Trump administration asks Supreme Court to immediately reinstate travel ban
- Thread starter Perfect Blue
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JonnyDBrit
Member
One, but that doesn't necessarily determine everything here.
Remember, this same Supreme Court - sans Gorsuch, mind - ruled against Republican gerrymandering in North Carolina recently, and part of the dissent was rooted more in the fact that the challengers hadn't proposed viable alternatives, rather than their challenge itself being incorrect.
He literally was like "see I told ya so" after the Florida shooting. Dude is easily wishing for an attack so he can go all in with his nonsense.
I can see the SC reaffirming the president's power when it comes to immigration. At the samt time making a point about judging the EO on its face, not looking at what Trump has said in the past.
Well, Gorsuch, based on his court record, was closer to a centrist in the tenth circuit court of appeals, but it's important to note that he's pretty hamstrung by precedent there. The Supreme Court is a lot more loose since they don't have those restrictions so you don't really know how he'll vote. I would bet on him being far right but not extremist right. Basically another Scalia.
RPGCrazied
Member
Would be hilarious if they dismiss the case. Take another L Trump.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Unfortunately for Trump, intent is very heavily factored into SC discrimination rulings. He has naturally televised campaign ads calling for the Muslim ban last fall.
Hope you're right.
Lord Frieza
Member
The whole argument against the ban is that it's discrimination by the President, and that's what struck it down in courts before. Why would the SC just ignore what the President has said?
Because Gutek sees the worst in all this and nothing positive
Okay, I know this is a dumb question, because obviously the answer is that this isn't about national security at all and it's all predicated on Islamophobia and racism, but ...
Wasn't this supposed to be a 90 day ban while they implemented tougher visa rules? Hasn't it been more than 90 days since they initially tried putting it in place? Why can't they just enact those proposed tougher visa rules without the ban?
They keep going back to the well with this "temporary travel ban" which is supposed to buy them time, but it seems like they've had the time they need, so I'm unclear what a "temporary" ban is supposed to do at this point.
Again, I know the actual answer here, I'm just wondering if there's some better/less damning explanation they're giving that I'm missing.
Wasn't this supposed to be a 90 day ban while they implemented tougher visa rules? Hasn't it been more than 90 days since they initially tried putting it in place? Why can't they just enact those proposed tougher visa rules without the ban?
They keep going back to the well with this "temporary travel ban" which is supposed to buy them time, but it seems like they've had the time they need, so I'm unclear what a "temporary" ban is supposed to do at this point.
Again, I know the actual answer here, I'm just wondering if there's some better/less damning explanation they're giving that I'm missing.
FrontalMonk
Banned
I thought of this last night, too. Like, it's already been more than 90 days since the first one, and almost 90 days since the second. I expected them to delay reinstatement indefinitely if it had passed the courts with excuses a la "I'm under a routine audit, nobody cares about that shit anymore, right?" but this is getting pretty stupid. I hope SCOTUS doesn't even hear the damn case.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Of course they need 90 days where nobody can't come in, you can't change visa requirements during business hours.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
It doesn't matter because the court isn't going to hear this case when the lesser courts have already struck it down
Its face is what trump has said in the past.