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Bullshots: How close did PS4/XB1 games come to the E3 builds? Let's see!
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Terbinator
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Did you see the Battlefield 4 demonstration? People had this hard on where the game was going to look like the video shown off at E3. We all know how that turned out. Ryse is 900p btw, and whether or not you consider that a downgrade and eat whatever words Microsoft has- than yeah, I suppose so. Didn't follow Dead Rising all that much, but from what I remember both that and KI were heavily thought to be 1080p from the get-go.
haZethew0rld
Member
I totally forgot about that lol.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Killzone and NBA2k14 delievered.
EA games obviously do not look like the prerendered scenes.
Forza5 was pretty noticable downgraded, not only crowds but also environment details, lighting and reflections.
EA games obviously do not look like the prerendered scenes.
Forza5 was pretty noticable downgraded, not only crowds but also environment details, lighting and reflections.
SJRB
Gold Member
When the time comes, I will remind you of this post.
Always-honest
Banned
Well we've seen HQ gameplay vids and the iq was pretty amazing.
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
Wait, how does that even work?
Do they move, or is the cutouts just standing there?
What about in colder climates, are they still wearing tops and the like?
Dat 900p tho. Still I agree, the game looks fantastic, and the final product is the technical showpiece of the Xbox One's launch titles.
nelsonroyale
Member
Reflections still look to be in I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwm6cJdOx-M&list=SPs2mmUfELHP9wnfFXVL0y-SkYn6NK-bvf&index=6
battlefield didn't look amazing from the initial reveal and the thread for it reflected that.
Ryse was always 900p so how is that a downgrade? MS claimed it was 1080p once and corrected themselves a few hours later, that was it
People thought KI and DR were 1080p but they never were, so how is that a downgrade either? Just shows people aren't as good at determining resolution as they think they are
dragonflys545
Member
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
WOW!!! Did they really change it to that? That's amazing LOL!
The second pic isn't the same frame perspective - the building on the right is leaning a bit more in the second shot, however, comparing the larger building on the left, there is considerably less aliasing as opposed to the reveal. A few degrees of an angle can mean a lot to hide/show aliasing.
I liked the colors in the reveal better but they both look the same IQ wise, IMO.
Pristine_Condition
Member
everyone points out the forza crowd, but what stuck out to me was that soft shadow replacement
It looks like they scrapped the entire lighting engine for something far simpler, then just added some baked FX like lens flair, hoping nobody would notice the downgrade.
They actually believe they not only delivered on the CG demos, but even surpassed it in some cases.
I rolled my eyes so hard that they almost didn't reset to normal position. Good gosh, EA... Smh.
possible. but i was comparing both pics that was shown here. and from those pics alone, there is a downgrade.
we would need more pics to determine for sure " same apply for all the games above"
all in all. i do think KZ didn't change much if anything between the reveal and the final version.
According to DF, Dead Rising 3 spends a lot of time sub 30 and some times sub 20.
Good question. It is false advertising, someone should sue for once, see what happens.
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
#dead
N7Commander95
Member
Your reply is weird. I wasn't mentioning battlefield 4 so . . . ok. Secondly, I'm confused about you Ryse reply. You don't need to just listen to crytek about LOD's and stuff, the game very clearly looks better than E3. Dead Rising was never thought to be 1080p and Killer Instinct was just assumed to be, no downgrades there.
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
lol holy shit, this can't be real...
famousmortimer
Banned
FIFA doesn't look like the reveal... but it looks WAYYYYY better than the shot in the OP.
FIFA is actually pretty damn good. Madden isn't.
FIFA is actually pretty damn good. Madden isn't.
N7Commander95
Member
From pretty much all the reviewers, it's clear that Digital Foundry was using incomplete game code. Framrate is apparently now mainly 30 now.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
Is that Dan Greenwalt at the front? lol
Even in the N64 days we had 2d crowds that had 1 or 2 different poses! But looking at this 2d crowd, it seems to consist of pictures they hastily took at the office.
Prevolition
Member
Very good! Can't wait to see how Deep Down turns out...
Chinpoko_Master
Member
Killzone delivered. The rest though... lol.
I got a different impression about the Forza comparison after seeing this in the OT:
Perhaps the lighting isn't worse, but just different from the reveal?
Perhaps the lighting isn't worse, but just different from the reveal?
They're probably cutouts that always face the camera. Should be weird looking to drive by them closely and slowly in that case.
It's clear or you assume / hope?
The same reviewers that don't know 1080p from 720p or their ass from a hole in the ground?
silver.tongue
Member
Why is the Killzone sceen off a youtube video, guys?
Aaron Strife
Banned
Killzone and NBA Live look great, Forza looks ok but obviously subpar compared to the render, Madden and FIFA look like ass lol EA
Always-honest
Banned
plasmawave
Banned
Oh EA...
Madden, Fifa and Forza got some big downgrades. The Fifa comparison is absolutely hilarious. Killzone overall got a massive upgrade imo. Some of the character models from the initial gameplay vids left a lot to be desired, but they got improved across the board along with lighting and textures.
dungtongue
Neo Member
NBA Live and Killzone look improved.
N7Commander95
Member
No it's clear. Also the gamespot and giantbomb streams were stable to. reviewers are mostly crap at resolution but decent at frame rate.
Melfice7
Member
Forza:
That crowd...
Looks like the girl in blue at the front has a twin that's right behind her.
Edit: nvm triplets, to the right there's another one but with a green shirt!
I think you must be talking about 2k.
I hope for anyone getting it that it is.
Until our friend at DF says it was incomplete code we will see.
3rdamention
Member
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
Lol that's hilarious.... How did they find identical octuplets to pose for the crowd?