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Bungie Weekly Update 9/28/07 - 640p or How they did their lighting
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IoCaster
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Holy shit!
I don't really care fuckall about Halo and this is the dumbest cuntage I can ever remember hearing about. If the game looks great and most importantly plays great, then WTF?!?
Console fanboy twats are some of the lowest bottom feeders on the planet.
Fuck it. Carry on 'tards, I'm out.
I don't really care fuckall about Halo and this is the dumbest cuntage I can ever remember hearing about. If the game looks great and most importantly plays great, then WTF?!?
Console fanboy twats are some of the lowest bottom feeders on the planet.
Fuck it. Carry on 'tards, I'm out.
Lostconfused
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My question is why the hell did this not come up during the beta.
polyh3dron
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Z3F said:
Are you seriously comparing Heavenly Sword's graphics with Halo 3's?
f@luS
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Whhhhhhy are u talking about HS in this thread? did i hurt your feeling? If i have to answer (though i dont think i have), the only issue i had with HS was the framerate (from a technical standpoint) but since the camera dont move a lot (u cant even spin it) ...../off topicZ3F said:
I think in order for GAF to be rational 2 things should be accepted:
1. It's ok to be upset that another game is added to the list of sub-720p titles. The more titles on this list, the more of an "ok" it gives to developers to not shoot for 720p because they see other games getting away with it and dropping the resolution is easier than working on smoothing the framerate out at 720p.
2. Even at 640p, Halo 3 looks good and there's no need to try to drag down the visuals of the game because of the lowered res.
That being said, GAF is not rational, so fight away!
1. It's ok to be upset that another game is added to the list of sub-720p titles. The more titles on this list, the more of an "ok" it gives to developers to not shoot for 720p because they see other games getting away with it and dropping the resolution is easier than working on smoothing the framerate out at 720p.
2. Even at 640p, Halo 3 looks good and there's no need to try to drag down the visuals of the game because of the lowered res.
That being said, GAF is not rational, so fight away!
Lostconfused
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duk said:
On the xbox 720 in 5 years? might happen, i mean they need to sell the next one somehow.
gregor7777
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oh lord, as if this thread wasn't bad enough. The darkest trolls of the night are out, and are headed to town with:
Lostconfused said:
Zombie James
Banned
IoCaster said:
If Microsoft had just said "The 360 supports up to HDTV resolutions" then none of this would be a problem. They're the ones that have been pushing HD harder than anyone (given their one-year head start on Sony) and they couldn't even back it up at launch.
Bebpo said:
It's not surprising that 360 developers would cheat a little since the 360's scaler is so good. The 360 improves image quality even when it's scaling from 720p to 1080p. Unless you have a really good TV scaler (Pioneer elite?), it's probably best to let the 360 scale to 1080p for your 1080p tvs.
gregor7777
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_leech_ said:
This quote is so full of shit I don't know where to start.
Do you really think this wouldn't be a problem if they said "up to"? Really? Come on, fanboys and internet bitches will bitch regardless, that's what they do. It justifies their internet existence.
And didn't Sony coin the term, "Full HD"?
Lostconfused
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gregor7777 said:
I am not trolling i am just saying that i find that post a bit of a joke. For one we really have no idea if bungie wants to make another game and call it halo 4 and i believe its better to let creative people work on what they want rather then forcing them to complete some specific task.
Anyways i am sure bungie can easily take halo 1 render it at 720pp with 4xAA and at 60fps easily all they would need to do is call it "Halo:infinity" and add some random levels with clever names and almost complete lack of continuous plot.
SolidSnakex
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Z3F said:
At the very least all of Sony's first party games are running at at least 720p. Sony
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I'm actually a little amused by the complaints over the little bit of stutter Halo 3 exhibits in frame rate fluidity relative to how bloody much the game throws about on screen while games like Gears of War struggle to move 3 guys around in a cut scene and pop, stutter, and chug. (Or play a rain level in Gears and watch the chug when nobody else is even on screen.) You'd think Halo 3 would be unremarkable by now.
Lostconfused
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ferrex said:Ow, damn! Don't be a h8r.
Did marathon infinity make sense to you?
WickedLaharl
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SolidSnakex said:
so what. it'd be nicer if they could all scale to, say, 1080i.
f@luS
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Sony system is a BD player too, you know;...1080p. But this is again off topic.Z3F said:
The thing is , now what will prevent other dev to do the same thing? if nobody care, will they not take this opportunity to have 20% more raw power working on other thing? hail to the HD area, getting screwed all over again.
Some people are willing to pay 2/3/4/5K for their tv set to get the best IQ, best upscale, 1:1 pixel , this thing (640p) is just cheating with consummer
Zombie James
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gregor7777 said:
Yea, really. People are upset because they expect 720p minimum. If the expectation wasn't there, there'd be nothing to complain about.
gregor7777 said:
http://www.electronichouse.com/article/full_hd_1080p_everything_you_need_to_know/C155
DCharlie
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i`ve spent the last few year trying to avoid any details AT ALL on halo....
thanks for this! :/
The thing is , now what will prevent other dev to do the same thing? if nobody care, will they not take this opportunity to have 20% more raw power working on other thing?
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i haven`t seen Halo 3 yet, but if i don`t get a serious sense of OUTRAGE of being cheated i`m going to track you down and kick you HARD in the BALLS.
gregor7777
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_leech_ said:
I said "coin", as in, originate.
Zombie James
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gregor7777 said:
I couldn't find that info, just which companies use the term.
f@luS
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DCharlie said:
Will you track me there?
Anyway, for me this isnt the only thing that upset me about halo 3 tech, its the whole package, as amazing as the game is (and it really is one hell of a fun game).
THey just said , for pgr "its a launch game , we are sorry , never going to happen again"....indeed.
BenjaminBirdie
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All I know is I just finished Level 5 and this whole argument has reached new heights of laughability. That fucker was PHENOMENALLY gorgeous. JESUS.
And thanks Luke:
That made me larf.
And thanks Luke:
That made me larf.
Lostconfused
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f@luS said:
As long as the game looks great, yes.
DCharlie
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.... i have to! Ironically, you have pictured your landing point following the afformentioned booting.
Also - why isn`t this a full frame picture? Apologise ! Your inferior tech made it difficult for me to appreciate this picture.
Everyone likes "good tech" , but as long as the games are good - i`d rather that was sorted first. Again, i`ve not played H3 yet, so i`m in no possition to talk about it`s tec
they... did?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Internetzz told me.ferrex said:
BenjaminBirdie
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f@luS said:
Dude, you've played Level 5, you know what I'm talking about. How on Earth could you play that level and take anything about the engine to task? It looks flat out fucking gorgeous and yes, go ahead, whatever you need to do to make shit that fucking gorgeous. Do it. Please.
f@luS
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it does look very good , indeed, but more from an artistic standpoint, than a technical. I m not saying that halo 3 is a bad looking game though it can really be (indoor), but some technical issues are unnaceptable from such a big game i think.BenjaminBirdie said:
Its not as bad but i remember a Haze thread where , and i was in it , people were shocked by the way the vegetation pop in and grow and it was like "omfg how can it be nowadays". So many things are too easily forgiven because its halo , its just not fair. I will shut up for halo if people do the same for the other games. Bungie say with an ironic touch " hey we stole you 80p ahah rofl " , and this is enough to make it worth it with their HDR story. Not buying it , optimization is about reaching initial goals with some possible drops here and there, not downgrading the whole thing like this.
Maybe im a bit too serious about this.....maybe.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I think we can cut the best game this gen some slack.f@luS said:it does look very good , indeed, but more from an artistic standpoint, than a technical. I m not saying that halo 3 is a bad looking game though it can really be (indoor), but some technical issues are unnaceptable from such a big game i think.
Its not as bad but i remember a Haze thread where , and i was in it , people were shocked by the way the vegetation pop in and grow and it was like "omfg how can it be nowadays". So many things are too easily forgiven because its halo , its just not fair. I will shut up for halo if people do the same for the other games. Bungie say with an ironic touch " hey we stole you 80p ahah rofl " , and this is enough to make it worth it with their HDR story. Not buying it , optimization is about reaching initial goals with some possible drops here and there, not downgrading the whole thing like this.
Maybe im a bit too serious about this.....maybe.
