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Bungie's announcement canceled, confirming once again that E3 sucks
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FunkyMunkey
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Raein said:
Except when the evidence is presented by the same people trying to "force feed" you.
TheOddOne said:
WOW LOL
I was thinking that was maybe just an anti-hotlinking pic but no sir, that's the actual one haha.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Uhhh... mods?
BenjaminBirdie
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:O
First time I actually saw one of those before it was Hammer Of Dawned.
Yugh.
First time I actually saw one of those before it was Hammer Of Dawned.
Yugh.
Karma Kramer
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Nino said:
Well if this is a ruse... then Luke would be first in line to guide us down the path of deception. Don't you remember 1up Yours? He loved when forum beings got all flustered and out of control.
Good ole luke
edit: Woah... what the hell?
FunkyMunkey said:
I really don't feel like unloading the bulk of the information, but go to the bungie.net forums for example and browse around for a few minutes.
Some examples:
The obvious 7 symbolism in the "cancellation" announcement.
The fact that the mottoes that the SI posted like "Keep it Clean" and "Expect Delays" could be translated into what is happening now, and all be a part of this pseudo-ARG.
And so on.
Karma Kramer
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Hay at least a horse came to the circus
Karma Kramer
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TheOddOne said:
Woah.
psycho
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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TheOddOne said:
Posting gape porn
Diablohead
Member
Oh WHAT? E3 is down the pan totaly.
Kitschkraft
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This is very very very bad on MS's behalf. Not only have they ruined this presentation, Mattrick apparently spoiled what they are working on. Bad form, especially when it involves a company that just broke away from you and whom you would appear to have a shaky relationship with....
BenjaminBirdie
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Well, I guess that's that. 7:07 right?
BenjaminBirdie
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Eric WK said:
Oooh.
Simple:
It seems that Microsoft had this final announcement reserved to counter whatever Sony came up with in their Conference. If something can steal anyone's thunder, that's a Bungie Game.
However, after watching the Sony Keynote, it's crystal clear that this announcement would've been a waste of effort. They had already "won" E3 and this announcement will be saved to kill in a different Conference.
Honestly, I would've done the same. Sony's performance was pretty poor (CGI stuff everywhere of not-that-exciting games) and Nintendo... well, few beared the whole conference.
It seems that Microsoft had this final announcement reserved to counter whatever Sony came up with in their Conference. If something can steal anyone's thunder, that's a Bungie Game.
However, after watching the Sony Keynote, it's crystal clear that this announcement would've been a waste of effort. They had already "won" E3 and this announcement will be saved to kill in a different Conference.
Honestly, I would've done the same. Sony's performance was pretty poor (CGI stuff everywhere of not-that-exciting games) and Nintendo... well, few beared the whole conference.
Zero_Phoenix
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Aquanox said:
It almost seems like they all did this, at the same time. Sony and Nintendo went forward in time and saw MS had a pretty poor conference so they scaled down their own. Little did they know MS had gone forward in time and had done the same thing. This loop happened 1000 times.
Aquanox said:
Na, no way MS would change plans to show a Bungie game based on a POOR showing from a competitor. Besides you may think they 'won' but the press has widely conflicting opinions.
I could see them freaking out when Nintendo pre-empted them with the 1:1 addon before the MS conference, but even that seems unlikely.
They plan these things months in advance, and MS (and Bungie to a lesser extent) look like shit right now, they wouldn't let one of their competitors make them look stupid like this. It seems much more likely to me that there's some reason the can't do the big reveal now, rather than MS just changing their schedule.
ToyMachine228
Member
It's amazing how some of the bigger media outlets still don't get stories right. Like Gears is a first-person shooter (minor slip up, possibly even a typo) but IGN XBL is speculating that Bungie has been bought by Activision:lol Um no. Bungie and Microsoft still have an exclusive publishing deal in place.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Microsoft did what they always do in the new E3: Showcase their library for the current year, and they do this because they can. Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Banjo, Lips, In the Movies, Complete Dashboard Overhaul (including full Game installations for every game) are all for this year, whereas Sony only showed some CGI for games that God knows when they're coming out.
Add to this the Final Fantasy megaton, the one that melted down major gamming publications, including this one, and you know that Sony was under serious pressure for their Conference. If they had something really big ready to show, this was the opportunity.
Just take a look at this poll:
http://www.*******.com/2008/07/15/*******-poll-which-of-the-big-3-had-the-best-e3-keynote/
Viraly, Microsoft has won hands down in this E3 edition and that's without mentioning Bungie.
Add to this the Final Fantasy megaton, the one that melted down major gamming publications, including this one, and you know that Sony was under serious pressure for their Conference. If they had something really big ready to show, this was the opportunity.
Just take a look at this poll:
http://www.*******.com/2008/07/15/*******-poll-which-of-the-big-3-had-the-best-e3-keynote/
Viraly, Microsoft has won hands down in this E3 edition and that's without mentioning Bungie.
Zero_Phoenix said:
Uh...Microsoft had the largest megaton of this generation. If Sony actually felt no pressure to show an ace then the company really needs to get a better human resource department to ensure the employees in the games and entertainment division are mentally sound.
Chittagong
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I came to see the reveal of Bungie's new big game
but the only thing I got to see
was the reveal of a hairy, gaping vagina
but the only thing I got to see
was the reveal of a hairy, gaping vagina
Ghost said:
Why not?
It was just an announcement, not a full unveiling. Bungie has already confirmed that it was Microsoft's decision so it's crystal clear for me. "When there's the proper time... we'll show it"...
Right there, this is not the right time. MS already has all the attention. They have release dates and gameplay instead of "your wait will be rewarded" and CGI movies for 2010 - 2011 games. The whole timing (1 day after Sony's Conference) said from the begining that this one was subject to change, and it did... thanks to the positive environment, about which, Sony contributed quite a lot.
Ghost said:
The only reason I can find for this is the fact that Sony announced new games, CGI or not. Microsoft as usual, focused on this year... including dates.
The thing is, Sony doesn't have any major western show for the rest of the year while Microsoft can still pull an X08 to showcase 2009 games. This is what happens when you have a lot of material, you don't need to pull is off at once in just one conference.
Ghost said:
That's a falacious argument. Sure fans would be pissed but the win will outpace the loss when it's actually shown alongside with other 2009 titles.
CoG said:
It came from No FF at all in the console - ever - to the biggest franchise coming in the Xbox's biggest markets. There's no way to spin this out without looking really desperate.
Aquanox said:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_g...=aps&field-keywords=final+fantasy+360&x=0&y=0
There's no way to spin this out without looking really hyperbolic. Biggest megaton this E3? Yes. Biggest megaton this generation? No.
Steverulez
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Liepzig maybe then? (Assuming Microsoft have a conference there).
CoG said:
Maybe the fact that GTA games had already been released on the original XBOX and San Andreas was supposedly on its way before MS pulled the plug on the console made that announcement a little less awesome than the Final Fantasy surprise. Also, the way they went about it with him leaving the stage only to return and announce it had so much more impact than seeing a tattoo on some old exec's arm. Lets also not forget that the FF series was a much much bigger surprise as MS had recently gained exclusivity to a lot of J-RPGs supposedly because they didn't have the latest FF. Because of all the deals MS was making with JRPG developers, we were all led to believe that MS was desperate as they would never be able to get FF XIII and so didn't even bother. Also, E3 was dead. 3 years back this would still have come from left field when E3 was still the place to make huge announcements. So no one really expected any megatons whatsoever from post-mortem E3. There are plenty of other reasons but I suppose this isn't the thread.
Right now we must be pissed off at MS for the Bungie announcement fuck up.
Chittagong
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DP WTF So late