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So it really was Nihilistic? Good to get that confirmed at least. I'm still getting the game. Looked kinda "slow" in the stream, but i'm not sure if that was the stream or the game itself.
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Call of Duty:Black Ops Declassified (Gamescom 2012)
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DarkSoul520
Member
Haha 4 vs. 4.
I'm not the biggest CoD fan, but I was hoping this game would get some interest going for the Vita. Guess that was hoping for too much.
I'm not the biggest CoD fan, but I was hoping this game would get some interest going for the Vita. Guess that was hoping for too much.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Required memory card too. Now that we finally know the details, this game can come off the list wars in threads. No wonder they kept it under wraps for so long.
How do we know it's a rushed timeframe?
nhlducks35
Member
Why is it $50? I would rather buy Black Ops 2 for my Xbox 360, as would thousands of others.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I find this whole ordeal so frustrating because from the outset of the Vita Resistance and CoD were both games I was extremely interested in.
What a waste of potential.
What a waste of potential.
Chittagong
Gold Member
expected clusterfuck, got clusterfuck. This is pretty sad. Clearly what happened was that Activision had no intent to put one of their teams on CoD Vita. Sony moneyhatted it, and even arranged the developer for it given Activision wasn't assigning one. So they put one of their first party fame on it. Here we are.
GitarooMan
Member
Trailer seems to give that away, unless we want to go the other direction and just say they are awful developers.
chickdigger802
Banned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIh4qn8xO8&feature=player_embedded
youtube link.
And wow,
'covert single player missions'
*Shoots many dudes*
lol.
But seriously, this looks worst than CoD on wii, about psp level at a glance.
I know graphics don't make a game, but come on, this is a shooter on iphone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIh4qn8xO8&feature=player_embedded
It cost $7.
with 12 player MP.
hmmm...
HMMMM...
Any trailers for new Ass Creed yet?
youtube link.
And wow,
'covert single player missions'
*Shoots many dudes*
lol.
But seriously, this looks worst than CoD on wii, about psp level at a glance.
I know graphics don't make a game, but come on, this is a shooter on iphone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHIh4qn8xO8&feature=player_embedded
It cost $7.
with 12 player MP.
hmmm...
HMMMM...
Any trailers for new Ass Creed yet?
Anything I could say about this game's reality vs. its hopes would be better represented by McKayla Maroney's face.
So it will be.
The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
Can we get a FPS for the Vita that isn't made by Nihilistic? Resistance Burning Skies was downright awful based on the demo and this doesn't look much better.
It'd be nice to give another developer with more talent a shot at making a FPS for Vita before people write off the system entirely when it comes to FPS. I guess Killzone is the next big attempt, but it would be nice to have another developer with a better pedigree give it a shot.
It'd be nice to give another developer with more talent a shot at making a FPS for Vita before people write off the system entirely when it comes to FPS. I guess Killzone is the next big attempt, but it would be nice to have another developer with a better pedigree give it a shot.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Awkward NPC animations, ugly textures, and 4v4?
I'm really trying to find some clever way of saying this just looks like a PSP game.
I'm really trying to find some clever way of saying this just looks like a PSP game.
TacticalFox88
Banned
How do you fuck up a glaringly obvious business opportunity like this?
metalslimer
Member
Like I said, Nihlistic has said they only work on one game at a time. And they don't have many employees at all.
What opportunity? CoD's bank comes from consoles and the appeal is online.
EmCeeGramr
Member
It's from a developer that focuses on one (bad) game at a time, and their last game was released in May. This is the first we've seen of the game because despite being "a huge deal" there's been nothing but a logo and a title until now, indicating that this is the first time they've had something they're able to show, which looks awkward and unfinished. The game comes out in a few months.
Neuromancer
Member
Oh come on
So do all the CoD trailers I think.
It looks bad graphically, but so do all the other CoDs too.
That's purely speculative. The studio has over sixty employees, they could have easily had a second team on this for quite a while.
Why would they put Nihilistic on the Vita version of the most popular title right now in gaming. Activision must have no interest in portable games. It does surprise me that they don't care about the quality of developer working on their flagship IP. You would think Activision would have enough sway to get an A-team working on this game.
HamPster PamPster
Member
Real Call of Duty games are on a two year dev cycle. Nihilistic released a game three months ago. Of course maybe Resistance was rushed to devote resources to COD
The_Darkest_Red
Member
This is a whole other tier of bad, man.
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Uncharted is the best shooter on the systems right now, but even that is more action adventure than shooting. COD Vita made by a great dev team would be amazing.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Disappointed at the probable reskin. Was hoping for crossplat play
Nihilists don't give a f*ck
*preorders KZ*
Nihilists don't give a f*ck
*preorders KZ*
Ken Masters
Banned
4v4? what the hell?
The Vita is a whole other tier of bad compared to a 360, man.
So this game's development timeframe is <6 months?WOW
edible_candle
Member
As I posted in the Gamescom thread:
If COD:BLOPS for Vita supported cross-platform play with BLOPS II for PS3 it would have been an extremely compelling reason to buy a Vita for me. They could have even followed the example set by Wipeout 2048 - let the PS3 users download the Vita maps for free, and then allow cross-platform play on those maps, keeping the reduced player count and lower visual fidelity.
But it looks like this game runs on an entirely different engine from the console Call of Duties, so this might not have been feasible.
If COD:BLOPS for Vita supported cross-platform play with BLOPS II for PS3 it would have been an extremely compelling reason to buy a Vita for me. They could have even followed the example set by Wipeout 2048 - let the PS3 users download the Vita maps for free, and then allow cross-platform play on those maps, keeping the reduced player count and lower visual fidelity.
But it looks like this game runs on an entirely different engine from the console Call of Duties, so this might not have been feasible.
Father_Brain
Banned
It's possible that they've changed their structure in the last year or two, but it isn't just speculative.
http://www.nihilistic.com/index.php/about
GitarooMan
Member
It's not just the graphics, it's the limited ambition (apparently no campaign, they just talk about missions). A lengthier dev cycle would lead to a larger scope, which clearly does not exist here.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Compare Killzone 3 to Killzone Mercenary and then any recent CoD to Declassified. Do you really not see how massive the difference is? It's even more pronounced by the fact that the same thing happened with the Resistance franchise.
The Elite
BOSS
Graphics aren't the issue for me. But this killed it for me. I would have been happy with 6v6.
You're saying you believe they made this in two months? I seriously doubt that.
Mercs looks no where near KZ3 quality, this looks no where near CoD:BlkOps quality, I'd say the disparity looks about the same. Seriously, people should actually check out BlkOps on PS3, it is one of the ugliest games I've ever seen.
zephervack
Member
lol read this on Twitter.
metalslimer
Member
Resistance was probably done in April. 4 months seems about right. Pretty sure Treyarch made Call of Duty 3 for like every system in 8 months. They seem to be using the resistance engine for this so it was just matter of throwing a CoD skin on it
CoDs may repeatedly be uninspired rehashes, but at least they're good games for the most part. With Nihilistic helming this one, a good game is one thing we definitely know Declassified will not be.
In other words, this isn't going to save the Vita. At least Tearaway and hopefully AssCreed will be good.
In other words, this isn't going to save the Vita. At least Tearaway and hopefully AssCreed will be good.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Somehow to me the shared content seen makes it look more like an enhanced Wii up port than a multiplat or downport style game. I didn't think it would have to be so downgraded, just maybe run at lower frame rates but keep the rest of the elements. I'm kind of disappointed, but maybe I was led to believe Vita is more powerful than it is (since I was impressed by the Wii ports which were clearly worse than this visually, but for the platform and budget/time given they were impressive, not to mention their great controls). If it had been for 3DS and run in 3D it would have been impressive in that context, I wonder if they have n-Space working on a 3DS from the ground up game like they did for DS and if it will also look worse than I expect it would.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Wifi only.
They do say "solid" titles. So it is possible for them to work on two crappy titles at the same time
fluffydelusions
Member
Disappointed at the probable reskin. Was hoping for crossplat play
Nihilists don't give a f*ck
*preorders KZ*
They did resistance burning skies and I think that was also 4v4. I suspect this is the same engine and maybe 4v4 is the max it can push?
What's that based on?
CamHostage
Member
Or just release the damn multiplayer maps and quit pretending that this is a full production effort with SP and MP. Port the COD engine and make a cross-platform release of just the multiplayer mode so that players can earn their Elite points when on the go. Instead, this is bound to be a lesser experience in every way and will not satisfy the CoD hype wave that Vita has been trying to ride.
From what I see, this is an arena combat game with some story wrapping up the various battles ala games like UT3. That's fine for a little side-game release, but don't act like this is the "real" call of Duty experience. I wish Nihilistic well in delivering a game that now defies expectations and is worth all the pre-orders and price (I usually don't balk at portable game price parity, but $50, really Activision?), but from the look of that trailer, there's still a lot of work to be done to deliver what this system deserves.