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Call of Duty:Black Ops Declassified (Gamescom 2012)

LobLob said:
It isn't even about tastes, FPS on handheld is garbage. But you carry on, since obviously they base it off your tastes. *roll eyes*
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One of the main reasons why a second stick was implemented for the Vita is so that the platform could more adequately handle FPSs. I'm pretty sure just about everyone was expecting quite a few of them on the system, and obviously the potential for them to be decent is there now that the tech and hardware are up to par.
 
Father_Brain said:
So, this is my best guess as to what happened:

1. In late 2010 or January 2011, Activision signs a deal with Sony promising an exclusive CoD title on NGP in time for the 2012 holiday season, in return for Sony heavily co-marketing the game.
2. At some point in 2011, Activision loses confidence in the Vita platform and decides that the project isn't worth allocating any internal resources away from the console entries.
3. In order to fulfill its end of the bargain, Activision asks Sony to decide/oversee the course of CoD Vita's development. Sony, impressed by the high quality of Burning Skies, assigns Nihilistic to the project.

So that's where we are now.
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Pretty much exactly how I see it. Except that I don't believe that Activision never intended to do it, it was always going to be up to Sony, if they wanted it that bad. Kind of what Ideaworks was to Nokia - porting Tomb Raider, Tony Hawk etc. on N-Gage.
 
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LobLob said:
It isn't even about tastes, FPS on handheld is garbage. But you carry on, since obviously they base it off your tastes. *roll eyes*
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You said you go to PCs for your shooters, so obviously consoles are garbage for FPSs too, they should give up with this whole CoD thing on 360 too.

There has basically been one 'real' FPS on a handheld, and it was ironically made by this team. If you're going to write off an entire platform's ability to house a genre based on one game, I pity your ignorance.
 
StuBurns said:
You said you go to PCs for your shooters, so obviously consoles are garbage for FPSs too, they should give up with this whole CoD thing on 360 too.

There has basically been one 'real' FPS on a handheld, and it was ironically made by this team. If you're going to write of an entire platform's ability to house a genre based on one game, I pity your ignorance.
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Any sane person goes to PC for shooters.

And i am glad you are putting words in my mouth, after today's conference i already stated in another thread i will most likely pick up a Vita by years end, so keep on trucking bro.
 
Those screenshots are dreadful but obviously the game will look at least marginally better on the Vita. I don't know why handheld developers ever release shots at a bigger size than the screen outputs. It does them no favors.
 
Chittagong said:
Pretty much exactly how I see it. Except that I don't believe that Activision never intended to do it, it was always going to be up to Sony, if they wanted it that bad. Kind of what Ideaworks was to Nokia - porting Tomb Raider, Tony Hawk etc. on N-Gage.
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That's possible, in which case Sony should have been able to put a much more competent developer on the project, and should have had something decent to show before they started hyping it up as an exemplar of Console-Quality FPS Gaming. Just pathetic.
 
Father_Brain said:
So, this is my best guess as to what happened:

1. In late 2010 or January 2011, Activision signs a deal with Sony promising an exclusive CoD title on NGP in time for the 2012 holiday season, in return for Sony heavily co-marketing the game.
2. At some point in 2011, Activision loses confidence in the Vita platform and decides that the project isn't worth allocating any internal resources away from the console entries.
3. In order to fulfill its end of the bargain, Activision asks Sony to decide/oversee the course of CoD Vita's development. Sony, impressed by the high quality of Burning Skies, assigns Nihilistic to the project.

So that's where we are now.
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I doubt that this was going to be an AAA shooter with full budget to begin with. All the previous handheld CoD games have been on a lower budget, i dont think it was any different with the Vita version actually. The reason why i believe this is because if they had strong faith in the Vita in 2010/early 2011, i dont see why they suddently would lose faith some months later.
 
So, sub-native res, most likely less then 60 fps, developed by Nihilistic, and no mention of zombies so far?

Wow, this is a trainwreck. I even thought I saw Nuketown in that trailer.
 
This looks.....really bad. Like awful even, yikes. My friend is gonna be bummed, but then again Killzone Vita looks really nice so maybe we will move on to that instead.
 
OmegaZero said:
So, sub-native res, most likely less then 60 fps, developed by Nihilistic, and no mention of zombies so far?

Wow, this is a trainwreck. I even thought I saw Nuketown in that trailer.
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I thought I did, but it just looked like reused assets (the bus especially)

The guns don't seem to have changed from Black Ops. (Maybe that is the point, not sure really)
 
How does this look bad? I'm curious as to what FPS you guys are playing on handhelds that have better graphics than this?
 
LobLob said:
Any sane person goes to PC for shooters.

And i am glad you are putting words in my mouth, after today's conference i already stated in another thread i will most likely pick up a Vita by years end, so keep on trucking bro.
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Oh, so you haven't even played the single FPS on a handheld, and you're declaring them garbage as a concept?
 
LobLob said:
Any sane person goes to PC for shooters.

And i am glad you are putting words in my mouth, after today's conference i already stated in another thread i will most likely pick up a Vita by years end, so keep on trucking bro.
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I don't think that master race posts are appreciated.

Playing FPS on PC is not rare here. Many people do it, and others prefer not to do it. Not doing it doesn't make you crazy.
 
Looks bad all around so far. Not surprising by Nihilistic. Now we also know why they kept the developer hidden from us for so long.
 
test_account said:
I doubt that this was going to be an AAA shooter with full budget to begin with. All the previous handheld CoD games have been on a lower budget, i dont think it was any different with the Vita version actually. The reason why i believe this is because if they had strong faith in the Vita in 2010/early 2011, i dont see why they suddently would lose faith some months later.
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Again, could be, but it was still Activision that gave the first speech hyping the game up. This is a pretty big embarrassment for both of the publishers involved, regardless of how exactly things played out.
 
On the positive side we know that Nihilistic Software in not touching other handheld versons of COD, just the Vita Version (thank god)
 
I highly doubt that they were working on this game at the same time as Resistance. COD isn't even mentioned with the rest of their games on their own site.

Basically, the game is going to have to have one hell of a demo to convince anyone it isn't being shit out for the holiday season.


edit: Ouch at those screenshots. Could have told me that was a PSP game and I would believe you. Art and overall visuals look outdated as hell.
 
Looks like a PSP game. Not just the "graphics," but the animations, the sound, just something about the whole package looks like a clunky PSP game.

It hardly even looks like Call of Duty. If you told me it was a Vita follow-up to the PSP Medal of Honor games I'd believe it.
 
GQman2121 said:
I highly doubt that they were working on this game at the same time as Resistance. COD isn't even mentioned with the rest of their games on their own site.

Basically, the game is going to have to have one hell of a demo to convince anyone it isn't being shit out for the holiday season.
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Let me spare you any actual time you might spend thinking about this game: It's going to be shit.
 
Santiako said:
Probably controls like shit though.
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ios shooters actually aren't that bad if you get used to it. Here's a video i made a while back (recorded with my vita on my belly lol)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1benFg2mqAA&list=UUbZo4HMR__-oNJjuXUC6sRw&index=1&feature=plcp

Didn't realize shotguns kinda suck at anything but close range :X

It's workable, but probably not for everyone.

kuroshiki said:
Jesus God the frame rate is shitty.....
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Think it's on old hardware, I recall that game averaging around 40 -50 fps on my 4S.
 
Just like I predicted a few days ago in the other thread, it's a watered down experience that nobody will want. Game looks like shit and only has 4vs4 multiplayer over WiFi on tiny maps like Nuketown (and the other snow map looked like the "WMD" map from Black Ops).

This will not be a system seller for the Vita, anybody interested in CoD is gonna get the console versions.
 
Lord-Audie said:
I don't think that master race posts are appreciated.

Playing FPS on PC is not rare here. Many people do it, and others prefer not to do it. Not doing it doesn't make you crazy.
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Where did i post PC Master Race? You guys love to put words in others mouths they did not type or speak.
 
Teletraan1 said:
At first I thought that was a pic of the vita COD and I thought to myself wow all that hyperbole was right. It does look horrible. Then I realized that was a PS3 game and my brain just exploded.
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Unfortunately, there is some compression artifacts in that screen, I wanted one I knew was the PS3 version, and direct-feed, and holding a gun in normal gameplay, so I went to Digital Foundry, because they have good ones, but it's not as crisp as it could have been. It looks very marginally better than that.
EmCeeGramr said:
StuBurns are you being paid for this or are you really deciding to be the world's most inexplicable devil's advocate right now?
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There's some devil's advocate in my posts I guess. I just think it's unfair to write this off based on the developer who has never been given a chance to make a great game, and a franchise that is historically hideous. I don't think the game will be good if I had to guess, but I think people are being very condemning, based on so little.
 
StuBurns said:
There's some devil's advocate in my posts I guess. I just think it's unfair to write this off based on the developer who has never been given a chance to make a great game, and a franchise that is historically hideous. I don't think the game will be good if I had to guess, but I think people are being very condemning, based on so little.
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I don't mean to keep stirring the pot here but you say "a franchise that is historically hideous" as if that is some sort of majority opinion or something. I don't think it's absurd to hold the opinion that CoD is a very average looking series, and in fact many would even say it's well above average (trying not to play the "look at reviews" card here but it's getting a bit more difficult). Still, I do think you need to consider the high framerate that the series is known for as well.

When I woke up this morning I never would have guessed that I'd be defending CoD's graphics at some point today. :p
 
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