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Call of Duty: Ghosts uses "significantly upgraded" version of past game engine
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then your a crazy person
This.
I don't like them saying "New engine" to hype this when it really isn't, but I didn't expect a cross-gen game to be a significant leap up. I didn't expect any to, really. Same graphically with some new bells and whistles is what I expect until people stop making current gen games. It's only smart to do this. /shrug
OldAsUrSock
Banned
It is a new engine. The original engine (The one used in Quake) is nothing like the changes done to it so it is a new engine. Frostbite 2 is just an updated Frostbite 1 and the Frostbite 3 is just an updated Frostbite 2. That is how engine development works. It is stupid to rewrite whole new code when you can just fix the problems or update the current one. Unless you really need to do so.
It annoys me a little bit that people keep calling the COD engine "Quake Engine".
Here is a good, but old read about rewriting code. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html
It annoys me a little bit that people keep calling the COD engine "Quake Engine".
Here is a good, but old read about rewriting code. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html
Throwing out everything and starting anew is counterproductive. Large amounts of what they have probably works very well.
You can make great looking games with older engines, you just customize them to your needs. Star Wars 1313 ran on UE3 as did samaritarian.
That being said, I'm not impressed with COD Ghost showing.
You can make great looking games with older engines, you just customize them to your needs. Star Wars 1313 ran on UE3 as did samaritarian.
That being said, I'm not impressed with COD Ghost showing.
King Beyond the wall
Member
Hey! at least the fishies move
This thread delivered the goods. I expect no less from GAF.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Holy FUCKING SHIT LOL
SneakyStephan
Banned
Hairless dogs, so next gen!
Was anyone else bothered that they didn't put a motion capture tag on the dog's ears?
What is the point of mocapping an animal if you don't capture the ears moving?
Was anyone else bothered that they didn't put a motion capture tag on the dog's ears?
What is the point of mocapping an animal if you don't capture the ears moving?
BruiserBear
Banned
You aren't paying attention then. I've put hundreds of hours into these games. Black Ops 2 looks significantly better than Modern Warfare 1.
DecoyOctopus
Member
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
They're saving that for their 2020 next xbox reveal. The ear animation engine.
Delusibeta
Banned
So it's still id Tech 2? Sheesh.
Let me put it this way: Modern Warfare 2 had "Powered by id Tech" on the back of the box. Dunno about more recent games, but still.
Let me put it this way: Modern Warfare 2 had "Powered by id Tech" on the back of the box. Dunno about more recent games, but still.
I had hope that this cod would finally fix the bullshit perspective problems. But i suppose that they only up the graphics and keep the core game mechanics where your character is'nt "rooted" with game world and your hands and gun is just an overlay. Go prone and stuff like a tea cup is bigger than your gun or sit behind a cover and other people can just see the top of your head, but you can still shoot them. Through the cover from their perspective...
Funny you should mention id tech 3...
significant upgrade my ass!!
Same old ass engine with a bunch of fake effects.
Ahah!
I want Star Fox adventures in HD as an ambassador game, nintendo!
StanTowers
Member
What about that Activision engine demonstrated with those ultra realistic human heads? Is it not ready for launch? Surely it is in their interest to use that engine at some point
IIRC the Quake 3/Quake 3 Arena code is open source now right? I know that the original Call of Duty was built on Quake 3, but I know for a fact that all the shader and post-processing tech was all strapped onto it, which was added by IW/TA. Still, it's a pretty solid codebase... and if it gives us 60fps, then why the hell not?
Windom Earle
Member
Yeah, it looked like crap.
dummydecoy
Member
I Knew It! It's fine, though. Can't compromise dat 60fps.
The bigger issue is the exclusive DLC map packs. Fucking M$.
COD4 looked really great at the time.
The bigger issue is the exclusive DLC map packs. Fucking M$.
COD4 looked really great at the time.
Baconsaurus Rex
Member
Wonder if it'll still have the id trademark
TangoAlphaLima
Member
I am not surprised by this news. The vast majority of CoD: Ghosts sales will be of the 360/PS3 platform version, not the Xbox One/PS4. Activision isn't going to invest in a new engine now. The Xbox One/PS4 version will simply be an upscaled port. It wouldn't shock me if the same is true for the 2014 CoD game.
DR3AM
Member
dice and ea invested a lot of time and money into the new frostbite engine. now all their games are using it and its totally paying of for them. activision didn't and it clearly shows. i saw the interview with the IW guy and he said it would take over 200 people and 2 years to develop a new engines. well no shit.
They don't buy the game because it's 60fps. They buy the game because it's the shooting game everyone plays and the gameplay appeals to a wide audience.
However, people are fickle, so who knows how long that trend continues.
Heart Attack
Member
If it ain't broken, don't change it. I don't blame them, at least Call of Duty is still fun, unlike Halo 4.
SniperHunter
Banned
Doesn't Rare own the Star Fox IP?
no. That's a Nintendo franchise.
The Last Wizard
Member
Goddamn at the that dog cover lol
There's no point in starting from scratch unless you need every pipeline revamped. And since its a cross gen engine, they have to have current gen capability.
Even when the next gen engine comes around, they have no need to start from scratch with input and network code unless they're changing the entire game design
Even when the next gen engine comes around, they have no need to start from scratch with input and network code unless they're changing the entire game design
yes they do. they dont call it 60 FPS because they dont know what that is, but its referred to it as the "COD feel". as in fast and responsive twitch shooting
thats why the likes of Battlefield and killzones of this world never reach cod level sales with their sluggish controls, no matter how much "better" they are and old popular ones like Halo are losing sales
For some the game engine is a big issue but there are quite a few successful franchises that continually upgrade rather than get something new. These games are never the very best in show when it comes to graphics but that doesn't mean they don't gather a legion of dedicated followers. Valve is a good example, COD too considering it's the top seller.
Wishmaster92
Member
Doesn't make any fucking sense but ok, it's a new engine everybody!
Forsaken82
Member
The current gen iteration was actually started with CoD 2, but the base is close to 15 years old.
Karak
Member
I know its brilliant.
I miss this console whenever I boot up game using the Q3 engine.
oh my god. The memories come flooding back
Wishmaster92
Member
I miss this console whenever I boot up game using the Q3 engine.
Probably modified a line of code to make it run in the background seamlessly, that's it.
I miss this console whenever I boot up game using the Q3 engine.
Dat Nostalgia
Diablohead
Member
#win
Somethings in the reveal looked decent, however what I feel is severely lacking is motion blur, everything has such a staccato motion that just seems so current gen.