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[poppabk]

We are just two different people I guess.

I'm not happy about having to shell out 400$ for a PS3 for the two games I want, but I'm doing it. That's why I've been waiting on the sidelines praying for a pricedrop, cause I'm a cheap bastard. So I know what being a cheap bastard is all about.

Bitching about it though is just dumb, you don't see me skunking up PS3 threads begging for a 360 port of MGS4. But hey to each his own, we are different people.

Also, I am shocked that 200$ is alot of money to people. If the game I wanted was on a 200$ system I didn't own, I wouldn't think twice. Hell if PS3 was 200$ I'd have run, sprinted, fucking jet-rocketed over to Gamestop for MGS4 and a PS3 3 hours ago.

This isn't the RE5 thread this is the Wii Dark side Chronicles thread. Complaining about the direction that RESC is taking is akin to posting in the Nuts and Bolts thread complaining about the lack of platforming and the direction the franchise was taking, and maybe wishing that they would try and follow in SMG's footsteps. Which seems perfectly reasonable to me, the 360 is completely capable of having a competent 3D platform game and there is a market for it at least as robust as there was for a make your own vehicle game.

 

[Father_Brain]

You do realize that some people actually have great interest in pushing graphics technology forward, right? The people responsible for pushing last generation machines to their limits are now working on 360 and PS3 titles. This is why you rarely find Wii games matching the best last generation efforts.

Very true. Wii doesn't have poor third-party support just because publishers don't get it (though many don't); it's also because most of the AAA and AA third-party developers simply don't want to work within the technical constraints of the Wii hardware.

 

[Flachmatuch]

Overshot? The 360 and PS3 followed the natural path seen in every other generational switch.

Considering how they increased development costs, they completely missed what qualities a market can support/wants and seeing that in all probability neither Sony nor MS will make money on this generation overall and the biggest publishers are in trouble...yep, they did overshoot the market.

The Wii, on the other hand, is the first time we've seen a company release a new console that is only a hair more powerful than their previous machine.


You do realize that some people actually have great interest in pushing graphics technology forward, right? The people responsible for pushing last generation machines to their limits are now working on 360 and PS3 titles. This is why you rarely find Wii games matching the best last generation efforts.

That's complete bullshit. Even if developers were more interested in "pushing graphics technology forward" than making games (which is utterly idiotic and short sighted and probably not even true), gaming is not there to make developers happy but to make games that sell. It's obvious that graphics technology only sells to a limited degree, and publishers, you know, the entities that actually decide what games will be made, are interested in money. It's pretty obvious that they're not making very good decisions at this moment in time, looking at the trouble a lot of them are in.

And which developers? The ones making Dante's Inferno? Or generic FPS #99? Normal mapped vomit is still vomit, I don't think that makes them proud.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

EDIT: And I am interested in other 360 games; it's just a lot of its appeal is diminished by the fact that I already play a lot of games on my PC. I can't really see the point in spending a couple hundred dollars on it when that money could easily go towards several more PC/Wii/DS games.

Ah, a fellow PC/Wii/DS gamer.

Hasn't let me down yet.

 

[Zombie James]

See, this is why I never buy consoles at launch and always wait at least a year: I have to make sure that whatever I end up getting has the majority of games that i'm interested in and want to play.

Because of that reason, this generation I became a multi-console owner for the first time... and you know what? It's fucking fantastic. There's no shame in getting a 360 if you want to play RE5 that badly. It's unfortunate to have to spend more money, yes, but the harsh reality of this generation is that you can't get the bulk of the "best" experiences on one platform anymore.

 

[cvxfreak]

I think a Wii version of Resident Evil 5 would actually be worth the effort and it would sell very, very well. If Capcom kept it far, far away from Tose and Cavia, I'm sure it would be a fantastic game and a worthy reproduction.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

Bitch bitch bitch. Really, Wii owners, if you're really upset that other systems are getting the games you want, you clearly have the wrong system.

I'm going to get a gaming pc at some point for RE5 so I can use a wiimote or a mouse (depending on when someone releases a mod).

I mean shit, the biggest problem I have is that despite having all three systems, none of them have games I want to play (360 is my Blue Dragon machine, for instance). Do you see me bitching in every goddamned thread that there's nothing to play? I've realised that my gaming tastes do not match the majority, and dealt with it. I mean shit, my Wii gets the most playtime out of the three, for lightgun games. I'm NOT the average consumer here.

Thank god for the portables. You really could just get by on them.

I think a Wii version of Resident Evil 5 would actually be worth the effort and it would sell very, very well. If Capcom kept it far, far away from Tose and Cavia, I'm sure it would be a fantastic game and a worthy reproduction.

I think this is where the problem lies. Capcom clearly has no interest in actually devoting their own teams and paying out a decent budget for Wii titles. Not when they've seen the sales generated by a Cavia B-Team (and whomever ported RE4, was that inhouse?).

 

[Starchasing]

Very true. Wii doesn't have poor third-party support just because publishers don't get it (though many don't); it's also because most of the AAA and AA third-party developers simply don't want to work within the technical constraints of the Wii hardware.

More likely they dont know how to do it.... they dont know any better

 

[Cow Mengde]

Bitch bitch bitch. Really, Wii owners, if you're really upset that other systems are getting the games you want, you clearly have the wrong system.

So you're saying if Resident Evil 6 was a Wii exclusive while the PS3/360 gets an on-rail spin-off made by a no talent company, the PS3/360 owners would gladly clam up?

Not only that, but people are complaining about getting a game we DON'T WANT.

 

[farnham]

I think this is where the problem lies. Capcom clearly has no interest in actually devoting their own teams and paying out a decent budget for Wii titles. Not when they've seen the sales generated by a Cavia B-Team (and whomever ported RE4, was that inhouse?).

thank god that the best part of capcom (aka production team 4 aka clover aka seeds aka platinum games) now is independent and is making wii games (mad world for example)

In light of the evidence that was brought to my attention, my argument still stands.

Honestly, put yourselves in Capcoms shoes.

You can develop a full budget, awesome RE5 and sell shit loads on PS360. Use the DLC infrastructure to make even more.

You then have a C team downport the game to Wii and sell even more. Then you port the cell phones, Iphone etc. Milk it a bit more

Makes about perfect business sense.

Now some of you live in bizarro land and want the full fledged, full budget RE game for Wii. Soo, let's entertain that for a minute. They make the game specifically for Wii, then what, UPport it? Um, ok. Glad we live in the real world.

why not make a parallel version on the wii.. (like shaun white)...and maximize the sales

 

[Dragona Akehi]

So you're saying if Resident Evil 6 was a Wii exclusive while the PS3/360 gets an on-rail spin-off made by a no talent company, the PS3/360 owners would gladly clam up?

Not only that, but people are complaining about getting a game we DON'T WANT.

Maybe you didn't read the rest of my post: if the system you have isn't getting the games you want, you have the wrong system. If it's the control thing, deal with it: PC version + wiimote mod. Like me.

thank god that the best part of capcom (aka production team 4 aka clover aka seeds aka platinum games) now is independent and is making wii games (mad world for example)

Too bad Madworld looks completely unappealing, to me. Or I'd agree.

 

[cvxfreak]

I think this is where the problem lies. Capcom clearly has no interest in actually devoting their own teams and paying out a decent budget for Wii titles. Not when they've seen the sales generated by a Cavia B-Team (and whomever ported RE4, was that inhouse?).

I heard it was in-house, yes, but even if it wasn't, it's not like that particular game needed Capcom's best and brightest on the programming scale. It did have Kawata as the producer and Minoru Nakai as the director.

Speaking of Nakai, now that he's done with Dead Rising, I wonder what Capcom revisioning project he's up to next. To go from Biohazard DS to Biohazard 4 Wii and then Dead Rising Wii must mean he gets a kick out of doing ports and such. :lol If RE5 were to hit Wii, then he would assuredly be directing the project. Come to think of it, with RE5 now out and DR Wii done....

 

[Kintaro]

thank god that the best part of capcom (aka production team 4 aka clover aka seeds aka platinum games) now is independent and is making wii games (mad world for example)

And making 360/PS3 games too! We all win!

 

[Spiegel]

You don't see psp fans bitching that much even when they receive late ports (of Monster Hunter games) which end outselling the original versions by 5 to 1 and then Capcom decides to release the next main entry on the Wii (without a psp version confirmed).

 

[Flachmatuch]

Maybe you didn't read the rest of my post: if the system you have isn't getting the games you want, you have the wrong system. If it's the control thing, deal with it: PC version + wiimote mod. Like me.

No system has these kinds of games, and they most probably wouldn't be niche. Seriously, this thread could be about publishers missing whole genres that could be potentially successful. We have every fucking right to bitch about this stuff, especially since it has already turned out we were right once with the DS

Anyway, I'd be completely happy if MS and/or Sony showed their Wiimote knockoffs already. Halo CE + Wiimote...damn.

You don't see psp fans bitching that much even when they receive late ports (of Monster Hunter games) which end outselling the original versions by 5 to 1 and then Capcom decides to release the next main entry on the Wii (without a psp version confirmed).

Well the "main entry" is really the PSP...now if that came to the DS, that'd be worth bitching about.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Maybe you didn't read the rest of my post: if the system you have isn't getting the games you want, you have the wrong system.

What if it's getting of some games that you really want, but not getting some others?

Maybe the avatars have thrown some people off in here, but this isn't a black-and-white thing where you're either totally satisfied or completely unhappy.

 

[Davey Cakes]

We were right with the DS. Very right. Extremely right.

 

[Zombie James]

What if it's getting of some games that you really want, but not getting some others?

Welcome to the multi-console world of happiness. Please, join us.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Welcome to the multi-console world of happiness. Please, join us.

My wallet says no, as does my PC which reduces a lot of the appeal of the consoles.

 

[Flachmatuch]

We were right with the DS. Very right. Extremely right.

Well yeah, we actually weren't, as most people (disregarding the people who thought it was utter shit...so probably the majority) thought that it'd be great for FPS and RTS type stuff. Which it actually might be, but that has nothing to do with its success. Still, it was worth it for third parties to bring worthwhile stuff to DS (which people did bitch about).

 

[Dragona Akehi]

I heard it was in-house, yes, but even if it wasn't, it's not like that particular game needed Capcom's best and brightest on the programming scale. It did have Kawata as the producer and Minoru Nakai as the director.

Speaking of Nakai, now that he's done with Dead Rising, I wonder what Capcom revisioning project he's up to next. To go from Biohazard DS to Biohazard 4 Wii and then Dead Rising Wii must mean he gets a kick out of doing ports and such. :lol If RE5 were to hit Wii, then he would assuredly be directing the project. Come to think of it, with RE5 now out and DR Wii done....

Well see, I think that'd be great. Problem was that CTYD is a TOSE-based abortion. Like BAD TOSE. It's clear there's no effort whatsoever put into the thing. So even if Nakai is directing a possible RE5 Wii, I'm not sure I'd have any faith in it after seeing what happened with CTYD (which I originally was interested in, not having a 360 then, and figuring that Capcom would devote money and effort into the project).

I mean, if RE5 Wii Edition happens, and it actually is given a proper go of it, I'll be first in line. I really prefer RE4 Wii controls that much that I'm currently skipping over RE5. But I'm pretty sure Capcom doesn't see a point, since they're selling (comparative) shit with less money put into it, meaning more profits.

You don't see psp fans bitching that much even when they receive late ports (of Monster Hunter games) which end outselling the original versions by 5 to 1 and then Capcom decides to release the next main entry on the Wii (without a psp version confirmed).

Well to be honest, you have to be pretty fucking stupid to think that it MHP3 isn't coming. The only way I'll be getting Tri on Wii is if the NA version isn't pay to play. Which is unlikely considering the Japanese plans being unveiled.

No system has these kinds of games, and they most probably wouldn't be niche. Seriously, this thread could be about publishers missing whole genres that could be potentially successful. We have every fucking right to bitch about this stuff, especially since it has already turned out we were right once with the DS

Unfortunately, shit happens. There wasn't a single goddamned worthy home console lightgun games since the last Time Crisis on PS2, until the Wii. RE4 Wii was a miraculous beast, apparently.

Bitching about it on message boards will change nothing. If you really like RE games that much you'll play with the shitty analogue control, OR you'll wait until there's a viable option (PC + mod).

I just don't see a point in bitching. Gaming has changed, and not for the better for you lot.

 

[Davey Cakes]

Maybe you didn't read the rest of my post: if the system you have isn't getting the games you want, you have the wrong system

It's not about getting RE5 on Wii at all.

I'm a Wii60 owner and I'm in the camp that's just a tad skeptical of Capcom's outlook on Wii. But, I'm still going to play and enjoy RE5 on the X360.

But really, if Umbrella Chronicles was developed more along the lines of RE4, it would still have been relatively cheap to produce (and would've still sold a ton, if not more), and would've satisfied more people, since it's transplanting the fine RE4 engine, the superior RE4 aiming system, and also the great fanservice that the current RE:UC already offered. Quite a compelling package, honestly. Not only that, but an RE:UC that played like Resident Evil 4 would be a completely different experience than RE5, almost as much as it already is in rail-shooter form. That's something multiplatform owners can appreciate even more.

It's not an issue of "we want top-tier Capcom games just like the X360/PS3." Would that be nice? Of course. It's more about giving Wii gamers (who may also be X360/PS3 gamers, since it's not just one or the other) something that they truly want, and as far as I can tell, more Wii gamers wanted something like RE4: Wii Edition than a continuation of RE:UC.

 

[GSG Flash]

Arghhh, I wish developers would stop putting light gun games as their main entry of the series to the Wii. I like lightgun games and all, but I'd like to see something more original and something more ambitious.

 

[Flachmatuch]

Unfortunately, shit happens. There wasn't a single goddamned worthy home console lightgun games since the last Time Crisis on PS2, until the Wii. RE4 Wii was a miraculous beast, apparently.

Bitching about it on message boards will change nothing. If you really like RE games that much you'll play with the shitty analogue control, OR you'll wait until there's a viable option (PC + mod).

I just don't see a point in bitching. Gaming has changed, and not for the better for you lot.

You're not seriously thinking I'm bitching on GAF because I think it'll change stuff! I'm bitching and arguing with people because it feels good and it helps to get my thoughts together. After work, I'll go home and play more PSP and DS stuff (although now I have TLR and it's pretty good).

 

[Spiegel]

Well to be honest, you have to be pretty fucking stupid to think that it MHP3 isn't coming. The only way I'll be getting Tri on Wii is if the NA version isn't pay to play. Which is unlikely considering the Japanese plans being unveiled.

My point:

- PSP is the main console for Monster Hunter games. They sell 3 million+ on it compared to 500k on other consoles
- PSP only receives late ports of Monster Hunter games
- PSP has zero original Monster Hunter games
- Wii is going to have the NEXT Monster Hunter game (at least as a timed exclusive)
- Wii is not the main console for Resident Evil games
- Wii has 2 original Resident Evil games

But Capcom doesn't listen to wii fans... OK, I see

 

[DogWelder]

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[Sadist]

Yeah, but the problem regarding the RE 4 Wii Edition is that we allready got a game because that one did sell. It's called Dead Rising CTYD and thats Capcom's argument.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

You're not seriously thinking I'm bitching on GAF because I think it'll change stuff! I'm bitching and arguing with people because it feels good and it helps to get my thoughts together. After work, I'll go home and play more PSP and DS stuff (although now I have TLR and it's pretty good).

Maybe not you, personally, but there are people here whinging quite a bit and having little temper tantrums.

My point is, gaming has changed. None of the consoles offer much at all to me. If there wasn't the PSP and DS, I'd no longer be a 'gamer'. Current console trends don't appeal to me whatsoever, other than the loverly resurgence of lightgun games on Wii.

I've gotten over it, and found where my niche is. Whinging about it won't change anything, except maybe other's opinions of you for the worse.

My only problem with UC is that I don't think it's a good lightgun game. So, I won't be buying the sequel unless it's under 10$ or I can hire it out for free to see if they've improved things. Simple, really.

My point:

- PSP is the main console for Monster Hunter games. They sell 3 million+ on it compared to 500k on other consoles
- PSP only receives late ports of Monster Hunter games
- PSP has zero original Monster Hunter games
- Wii is going to have the NEXT Monster Hunter game (at least as a timed exclusive)
- Wii is not the main console for Resident Evil games
- Wii has 2 original Resident Evil games

But Capcom doesn't listen to wii fans... OK, I see

Uhm, you don't really make sense. MH fans know where the "real" MH experience is: on PSP. The "late" ports are really well done and have many things added to and fixed. They're the "definitive" version. They're made by internal Capcom teams, given an excellent budget and amount of effort.

Wii's two "original" RE games are not by Capcom, but rather B-Teams of lesser developers, not given any budget or effort whatsoever. Their followup to RE4 Wii is an abortion of a port also given to a shitty team outside of Capcom. And it shows.

There's a clear difference here in how different systems are being treated. That said, if people don't like how the Wii is being treated, they should buy the system where Capcom is putting effort on. That's it.

 

[poppabk]

My point:

- PSP is the main console for Monster Hunter games. They sell 3 million+ on it compared to 500k on other consoles
- PSP only receives late ports of Monster Hunter games
- PSP has zero original Monster Hunter games
- Wii is going to have the NEXT Monster Hunter game (at least as a timed exclusive)
- Wii is not the main console for Resident Evil games
- Wii has 2 original Resident Evil games

But Capcom doesn't listen to wii fans... OK, I see

Up until the release of RE5 the Wii was the only console to have sold a single copy of an RE game this generation, so why isn't it the main console for RE games?

 

[Solideliquid]

We don't practice SELF-deception on NeoGAF...oh wait...

 

[Christopher]

Up until the release of RE5 the Wii was the only console to have sold a single copy of an RE game this generation, so why isn't it the main console for RE games?

Not true PSN Japanese releases, and it isn't PS3/360 are hence their getting the main game.

 

[CrisKre]

The funny thing about this argument is that no matter how good a developer want a game for Wii to turn out, it still would cost a fraction of the development of a Top-tier HD game.

I thing that most people's issue with Capcom and many other developers is the lack of ambition and vision when it comes to developing for wii. A visionary game for the system still would be fairly cheap to produce. They just arent putting effort and passion it seems. Now, as i said before, the verdict on Darkside Chronicles is still out, it may actually try to push the envelope, it may not. But my main problem with wii third party support so far is exactly that, and not at all budget related. Thats why i go out of my way to support games like Deadly Creatures, bold in its concept and great -if yet flawed- in its execution. Gamers want titles that arent filler, safe cash cows and afterthoughts, we want games that have a reason for being and concepts have an identity of their own.

 

[..pakbeka..]

yeah, fuck you capcom, what happened to the DS games? or rather handheld games in general?

 

[Spiegel]

Uhm, you don't really make sense. MH fans know where the "real" MH experience is: on PSP. The "late" ports are really well done and have many things added to and fixed. They're the "definitive" version. They're made from internal Capcom teams, given an excellent budget and amount of effort.

Wii's two "original" RE games are not by Capcom, but rather B-Teams of lesser developers, not given any budget or effort whatsoever. Their followup to RE4 Wii is an abortion of a port also given to a shitty team outside of Capcom. And it shows.

There's a clear difference here in how different systems are being treated. That said, if people don't like how the Wii is being treated, they should buy the system where Capcom is putting effort on. That's it.

My point is that the wii fans are whinny bitches, they want everything on their console.
PSP fans have also the right to bitch after MHP2G become the best selling Capcom game ever in Japan and the best selling Capcom game this gen worldwide.

Capcom is not only treating the Wii like shit, PSP and DS are in a worse situation.

They have made clear that they are going to support the HD model. The PSP is the monster hunter cash cow, the ds is the Megaman/Ace Attorney machine and the Wii... the Wii is going to get the scraps and low budget games. So Wii fans (this is not directed to you Dragona), if you want big budget Capcom games you should buy a PS3/360

 

[Dragona Akehi]

My point is that the wii fans are whinny bitches, they want everything on their console.

While I agree they're being whingey bitches, they do have a point in that the games they are getting have no effort and from shitty teams.

PSP fans have also the right to bitch after MHP2G become the best selling Capcom game ever in Japan and the best selling Capcom game this gen worldwide.

Not really, when you know they're going to have the best version of MH3 on the PSP, with all sorts of additions and it'll be free to play online via Adhoc. It really isn't the same comparison. It's just like if Tri was still on PS3, I wouldn't give a rats ass and still be waiting for MHP3.

Capcom is not only treating the Wii like shit, PSP and DS are in a worse situation.

I guess it's a good thing that 4305839045839085 developers make up for that! I haven't missed them (ok I miss MMBN games, the stupid Star Force shit is crap).

They have made clear that they are going to support the HD model. The PSP is the monster hunter cash cow, the ds is the Megaman/Ace Attorney machine and the Wii... the Wii is going to get the scraps and low budget games. So Wii fans (this is not directed to you Dragona), if you want big budget Capcom games you should buy a PS3/360

Yeah what I said already, but you are being pretty silly comparing the PSP Monster Hunter Fan's "plight" with what's going on with the Wii.

 

[Cow Mengde]

Maybe you didn't read the rest of my post: if the system you have isn't getting the games you want, you have the wrong system. If it's the control thing, deal with it: PC version + wiimote mod. Like me.

No, you miss what I said. Nobody (ok, maybe a few people, but certainly not a majority) wants UC2, but Capcom is giving it to us anyway. Hell, I think if Capcom didn't announce anything, there wouldn't be complaints.

Not only that, but Capcom has repeatedly insulted Wii owners. When people asked about SF4, they basically told Wii owners to beg for it. When UC came out, they wanted to "test" Wii owners. Wii owners have supported their games to try and pass their "tests" and what did they get? The money is obviously spent on games not coming to the Wii. When they clearly put no effort into a disastrous port of a game no one wanted, they called Wii owners whiners. It's not about what we want now, we don't even WANT their games. I'd be more than happy if Capcom says they'll cancel UC2 tomorrow.

Edit - Oh yeah, wasn't Resident Evil 4 port the original test game for Capcom on the Wii?

 

[Shin Johnpv]

You do realize that PC gamers have made this argument for years. Wii-aiming is still lagging way behind mouse aiming, as far as accuracy is concerned. You don't see PC owners accepting table scraps just because they offer mouse and keyboard controls, however.

The difference is/was that PC gamers still get plenty of games. Did the FPS or RTS market dry up completely on PC when consoles started getting them?

Wow.

Yes wow, I'm not a graphics whore like yourself, I value different things. To me the biggest improvement to this generation isn't HD graphics, its Pointer controls and having the controller split into 2. Being able to place my hands where ever the fuck feels comfortable is really nice.

Those RE4 numbers are very impressive indeed, but it's Resident Evil. A very well known and popular franchise re-released on a console with a very limited selection of quality action games. RE4 is also one of the best games ever made. Dead Rising was a new IP that was nowhere near as good as RE4.

Here comes the its a popular franchise so it doesn't count argument. Convenient.

Still, it's clear that the installed base is there.

Of course, Capcom has invested heavily in the HD systems with their MT Framework engine and it seems like they would like to get the most out of that investment. Their games are certainly doing well on the HD systems. Why take a step back?

Because not every one sees graphics and HD resolution as the only way to move forward. RE4 Wii's controls to me, were a bigger improvement, than the graphics leap of RE4 - RE5. You and I want two different things. I don't see why what you want is so much more valid than what I want. I also don't see why both can't happen. Its like if one day we woke up and they just stopped making Chocolate ice cream. I really do not see why both groups can't be satiated.

 

[Flachmatuch]

Maybe not you, personally, but there are people here whinging quite a bit and having little temper tantrums.

My point is, gaming has changed. None of the consoles offer much at all to me. If there wasn't the PSP and DS, I'd no longer be a 'gamer'. Current console trends don't appeal to me whatsoever, other than the loverly resurgence of lightgun games on Wii.

I've gotten over it, and found where my niche is. Whinging about it won't change anything, except maybe other's opinions of you for the worse.

My only problem with UC is that I don't think it's a good lightgun game. So, I won't be buying the sequel unless it's under 10$ or I can hire it out for free to see if they've improved things. Simple, really.

Haha this is completely true for me too, every single word I still like whining, and I'm quite interested in points other people make, in this particular case the "developers want more power" thing is what I'm interested in most. Shame that noone says anything more about it, just repeating this one statement as if it was obvious or obviously acceptable, but of course counterpoints take time to emerge. It's an advantage if you're aggressive if you want to get noticed in a conversation like this though.

 

[Vagabundo]

Ah, a fellow PC/Wii/DS gamer.

Hasn't let me down yet.

Bingo. Covers all the bases

Spoiler

I even reconditioned an abandoned PSP, to add to the mix

 

[Sadist]

While I agree they're being whingey bitches, they do have a point in that the games they are getting have no effort and from shitty teams.

This is exactly what a lot of posters mean. Wii owners do tend to whine, but in several cases I have to agree. Yeah, I bought the Wii for my Nintendo games fix and the ocassional awesome third party title, but developers are sevearly underperforming on Wii. Thats a fact. We bought the console and essentialy, we want quality software that compliments the system. There is nothing wrong with that. And if developers only want to put their c teams or outsourcing on projects, why even bother developing for the console?

 

[poppabk]

My point is that the wii fans are whinny bitches, they want everything on their console.
....the Wii is going to get the scraps and low budget games.

There is a difference between wanting everything and being unhappy with lackluster effort on the stuff you do get.

 

[Spiegel]

While I agree they're being whingey bitches, they do have a point in that the games they are getting have no effort and from shitty teams.



Not really, when you know they're going to have the best version of MH3 on the PSP, with all sorts of additions and it'll be free to play online via Adhoc. It really isn't the same comparison. It's just like if Tri was still on PS3, I wouldn't give a rats ass and still be waiting for MHP3.

The "more" content-filled version? Yeah, sure. Of course being a late port has nothing to do with that.

Psp doesn't even have original games made by shitty teams! Wii still wins. They receive the games before and they have more original games made by Capcom!

Yeah what I said already, but you are being pretty silly comparing the PSP Monster Hunter Fan's "plight" with what's going on with the Wii.

No, I'm comparing Wii fans bitching because they don't get hd-like games (DMC, DR2, LP, RE5) after a port sold 1,5 million with the possibility of PSP fans bitching because they only receive MH ports (zero original Capcom games) after a port sold 3 million+

 

[Dragona Akehi]

This is exactly what a lot of posters mean. Wii owners do tend to whine, but in several cases I have to agree. Yeah, I bought the Wii for my Nintendo games fix and the ocassional awesome third party title, but developers are sevearly underperforming on Wii.

So you know what you're getting into, that's great.

Thats a fact. We bought the console and essentialy, we want quality software that compliments the system. There is nothing wrong with that. And if developers only want to put their c teams or outsourcing on projects, why even bother developing for the console?

Because developers are making money hand over fist making said shovelware. If you don't want said shovelware, don't buy it. And get another system that complements your gaming tastes with the effortful releases from said publishers releasing Wii shovelware.

The "more" content-filled version? Yeah, sure. Of course being a late port has nothing to do with that.

Psp doesn't even have original games made by shitty teams! Wii still wins. They receive the games before and they have more original games made by Capcom!

Well then you need to get another system to get those non-MHP games from Capcom.

No, I'm comparing Wii fans bitching because they don't get hd-like games (DMC, DR2, LP, RE5) after a port sold 1,5 million with the possibility of PSP fans bitching because they only receive MH ports (zero original Capcom games) after a port sold 3 million+

Well thing is, you're still getting that MHP3, and it'll be better than Tri in every way except, perhaps, graphics (slightly). But it's be even worse had it been a PS3 game. You're just being silly here.

 

[Link]

RE4 Wii was a just a port and since Capcom already ported it to every other platform including Mobiles it made sense to release it on Wii too.

A traditional RE with added pointer support would be totally lame. The Wii deserves something more unique than that, that's what most people bought it for. If you want big blockbuster games it's the wrong console for you.

Wii games should be easy to pick up and play while the traditional RE games are intentionally hard to control to keep the tension up.

You should work for Capcom with that kind of stupidity.

"Durr, Wii owners is dum and needs simpel gamez!"

 

[Jocchan]

Here comes the its a popular franchise so it doesn't count argument. Convenient.

But it doesn't count: RE4 is a mainline entry in the series, it was obviously going to sell gangbusters. This is why they're making UC2 instead of risking much more money by porting RE5.

Spoiler

/sarcasm

 

[Spiegel]

Well then you need to get another system to get those non-MHP games from Capcom.



Well thing is, you're still getting that MHP3, and it'll be better than Tri in every way except, perhaps, graphics (slightly). But it's be even worse had it been a PS3 game. You're just being silly here.

That's what I did. I don't have the right to bitch because Capcom can do whatever they want so I bought a ps3.

I'm not being silly, I understand that Capcom just wants to make AAA games on PS3/360 and I don't have a problem. I'm just saying that the Wii fans should stop bitching because Capcom is treating other consoles where they have been more successful (ds/psp) worstly.

 

[Flachmatuch]

Well thing is, you're still getting that MHP3, and it'll be better than Tri in every way except, perhaps, graphics (slightly). But it's be even worse had it been a PS3 game. You're just being silly here.

Also, it's not (just) "Wii fans" bitching - it's more like "Wiimote fans" bitching. You just can't replace these games on other platforms. Nothing to do with system preference, everything to do with wanting some particular type of gameplay that only the Wii can provide atm.

 

[Arpharmd B]

The funny thing about this argument is that no matter how good a developer want a game for Wii to turn out, it still would cost a fraction of the development of a Top-tier HD game.

I thing that most people's issue with Capcom and many other developers is the lack of ambition and vision when it comes to developing for wii. A visionary game for the system still would be fairly cheap to produce. They just arent putting effort and passion it seems. Now, as i said before, the verdict on Darkside Chronicles is still out, it may actually try to push the envelope, it may not. But my main problem with wii third party support so far is exactly that, and not at all budget related. Thats why i go out of my way to support games like Deadly Creatures, bold in its concept and great -if yet flawed- in its execution. Gamers want titles that arent filler, safe cash cows and afterthoughts, we want games that have a reason for being and concepts have an identity of their own.

That's a really good point. I think we'd all love to see a company other than Nintendo put out an amazing Wii product, and support the system the right way.

I'm not making excuses for Capcom, but it's not like they haven't tried to put out something nice secifically for Wii. Zack and Wiki comes to mind, Monster Hunter 3.

If any company does not deserve the bashing, it's Capcom. Let's focus on the other companies that completely ignore Wii, or throw shovelware at it.

 

[Sadist]

Because developers are making money hand over fist making said shovelware. If you don't want said shovelware, don't buy it. And get another system that complements your gaming tastes with the effortful releases from said publishers releasing Wii shovelware.

I know of the easy money

I'm in the same place you to be honest, there are a lot of games on the 360/PS3/Wii that don't interest me. There are only a few reasons for me to own a HD console and more for me to own a Wii. But, as a Wii owner who played his fair share of games on the console now (own 26, played over 80 titles) I'm a bit concerned with the quality of several titles. I'm not some whiney guy who yells 'game x should be on Wii because...'. I just want the software that is coming to the console having actual quality. And sometime Wii software is lacking that.

Not saying that RE: TDC isn't quality, because I'm going to give it a shot.

 

[neoanarch]

Seriously capcom when you say something like "Resident Evil fans on the wii will be happy" I expect something more than another cheap(as in budget not quality) game. How about next time you don't tease and just say your working on another on-rails shooter so I don't get my hopes up.


Yes before some else comes along I do feel entitles to a real RE game. Considering what ports and an earlier on-rails game did on the platform.