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Nirolak said:
Man these joke accounts. They manage to try to stir shit up among 360/PS3 gamers *and* Wii gamers at the same time. Can't wait for the oncoming handheld/PC zings.
Dude, I've played it. I don't like it and I love Resident Evil 4. I stated why I didn't like. I know my account name is goofy, but that doesn't make me a joke account. It's okay to not like popular games sometimes.
 
I can see a lot of venom being thrown in both directions so I'm not sure I want to wade through it all for the answer... Do we even know for a fact that this game isn't a remake of RE2 in the vein of RE-make on the 'Cube? The scan I saw shows Leon and Claire and some really nice zombie models; the models in RE-make looked amazing because they had the extra power due to backgrounds being pre-rendered.

I'm optimistic (and crossing my fingers).
 
bumpkin said:
I can see a lot of venom being thrown in both directions so I'm not sure I want to wade through it all for the answer... Do we even know for a fact that this game isn't a remake of RE2 in the vein of RE-make on the 'Cube? The scan I saw shows Leon and Claire and some really nice zombie models; the models in RE-make looked amazing because they had the extra power due to backgrounds being pre-rendered.

I'm optimistic (and crossing my fingers).

They said it was in the same style as UC in the text. Except "easier".
 
bumpkin said:
I can see a lot of venom being thrown in both directions so I'm not sure I want to wade through it all for the answer... Do we even know for a fact that this game isn't a remake of RE2 in the vein of RE-make on the 'Cube? The scan I saw shows Leon and Claire and some really nice zombie models; the models in RE-make looked amazing because they had the extra power due to backgrounds being pre-rendered.

I'm optimistic (and crossing my fingers).

It's been confirmed that it's an on-rails shooter already. The best part is that they're making it EASIER than the first one... It's also being done by the guys that made the first UC.
 
bumpkin said:
I can see a lot of venom being thrown in both directions so I'm not sure I want to wade through it all for the answer... Do we even know for a fact that this game isn't a remake of RE2 in the vein of RE-make on the 'Cube? The scan I saw shows Leon and Claire and some really nice zombie models; the models in RE-make looked amazing because they had the extra power due to backgrounds being pre-rendered.

I'm optimistic (and crossing my fingers).

That's called "CG video" in case you've never seen one
 
Link said:
Are you just pretending RE4:Wii didn't exist? Because this is exactly what that was and what everyone wants a new game to be built on. I'm beginning to think you really might be dense.

I want Capcom to go further than that to be honest. Like the jump from Dino Crisis to Dino Crisis 2. More action, genuine horror and less restrictions. Just being able to aim faster doesn't do the job for me.

btw I AM dense. Talk to me like you'd talk to a retarded child to make things easier for both of us.
 
Frenck said:
I want Capcom to go further than that to be honest. Like the jump from Dino Crisis to Dino Crisis 2. More action, genuine horror and less restrictions. Just being able to aim faster doesn't do the job for me.
Again, if they actually built the game around the Wii controls, instead of adding them in to an already completed game, i have no doubt they could take it much further, with excellent results.

Of course, that'll never happen, since apparently, according to Capcom, all Wii owners want is an even easier on-rails shooter.
 
Link said:
Again, if they actually built the game around the Wii controls, instead of adding them in to an already completed game, i have no doubt they could take it much further, with excellent results.

Of course, that'll never happen, since apparently, according to Capcom, all Wii owners want is an even easier on-rails shooter.
then they will be puzzled about the game bombing hard in Fall 09 with far more interesting games out. They still don't realise UC sold well in part because there was nothing else to buy, same reason why early party games did well yet any attempt to emulate that succes has gone to waste. Don't you remember T2 crying because their new carnival shit was going to bomb because there was a shitload of crap they didn't have to compete with when they released the first one? Same applies for this
 
Link said:
Again, if they actually built the game around the Wii controls, instead of adding them in to an already completed game, i have no doubt they could take it much further, with excellent results.

Of course, that'll never happen, since apparently, according to Capcom, all Wii owners want is an even easier on-rails shooter.

They keep releasing exclusive RE games on Wii. One of them eventually has to be a winner.

I'd be more worried if this game came out exclusively on PS360 in addition to RE5 and an XBLA/PSN Remake of RE4. I just want to shoot zombies, solve shitty puzzles and listen to non-sensical dialogue without having to worry about controlling a tank simulation while doing so.

An easy on rails shooter suddenly doesn't sound that bad anymore. To me at least.
 
D.Lo said:
I'm with Link, perhaps there was truth to the 'everyone else has it in for Nintendo' conspiracy. Nintendo gamers have been 'kiddy', 'grandma', 'don't buy 3rd party games', 'only buy Mario' 'don't buy mature games', 'don't buy complicated games', 'casual', 'stupid', 'buy any crap' - the condescension from 3rd parties has been constant and deafening for years.

It's been clear for a while now (to me at least) that 3rd parties will never get totally in bed with Nintendo like they did with Sony and are willing to do with Microsoft and it's for one simple reason... to 3rd parties Nintendo will always be a competitor first and a partner second. If the day ever comes that Sony or MS can really output the level of software that Nintendo does (I'm talking sales not quality, let's not start that other embarrassing thread again) then I think you'll quickly see 3rd parties treat them the same way.
 
Link said:
This is how this thread is going:

Wii Owners: Dark Side Chronicles? We don't want this!

Others: If you want RE5, buy a 360/PS3!

Wii Owners: We don't want that either. We want an original RE game with RE4:Wii controls or even a remake of RE2 done up like REmake.

Others: Why anyone wants a watered-down port of RE5, I'll never understand!

Wii Owners: ...
Why doesn't my toaster do my homework?
 
I'm beginning to wonder if Nintendo lied when they said the wii would be twice the power of an xbox (or was it twice the power of a gamecube?) and in reality the system is actually just a gamecube?

Because I don't understand how Xbox was getting games like Chronicles of Riddick, Ninja Gaiden, Halo 2, Doom 3, KOTOR, and Conker Live & Reloaded but yet the Wii can't get anything even close in graphics and scope?

IF its truely a "2x gamecube" wouldnt that mean that most game would look better than RE 4 and Twilight Princess? So far they don't.

Super Mario Galaxy looks good no question but it seems like the only game where Nintendo made an effort. Metroid Prime 3 is alright but it was inferior graphically to most Xbox fps games.
 
beje said:
then they will be puzzled about the game bombing hard in Fall 09 with far more interesting games out. They still don't realise UC sold well in part because there was nothing else to buy, same reason why early party games did well yet any attempt to emulate that succes has gone to waste. Don't you remember T2 crying because their new carnival shit was going to bomb because there was a shitload of crap they didn't have to compete with when they released the first one? Same applies for this
Going by most third parties' attitudes, I'm not sure there will be a lot of far more interesting games out.

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Anticitizen One said:
I'm beginning to wonder if Nintendo lied when they said the wii would be twice the power of an xbox (or was it twice the power of a gamecube?) and in reality the system is actually just a gamecube?

Because I don't understand how Xbox was getting games like Chronicles of Riddick, Ninja Gaiden, Halo 2, Doom 3, KOTOR, and Conker Live & Reloaded but yet the Wii can't get anything even close in graphics and scope?

IF its truely a "2x gamecube" wouldnt that mean that most game would look better than RE 4 and Twilight Princess? So far they don't.

Super Mario Galaxy looks good no question but it seems like the only game where Nintendo made an effort. Metroid Prime 3 is alright but it was inferior graphically to most Xbox fps games.
Like dark01x said, it's because no top-tier teams are developing for it. They're all making games for the 360/PS3 and letting B- and C-teams make Wii games.
 
Buttseckslol said:
Dude, I've played it. I don't like it and I love Resident Evil 4. I stated why I didn't like. I know my account name is goofy, but that doesn't make me a joke account. It's okay to not like popular games sometimes.

It's fine not to like popular games, but I made the assumption based upon calling Wii owners stupid carte blanche. And if Wii owners are all stupid for wanting the game, other people who like it had to be stupid too. It's a little different to say "I didn't really like this game, you probably don't want it anyway." and "God Wii owners are so stupid for wanting this!!!"

Though it's irrelevant overall since you're obviously not one.
 
Link said:
Going by most third parties' attitudes, I'm not sure there will be a lot of far more interesting games out.

EDIT - Like dark01x said, it's because no top-tier teams are developing for it. They're all making games for the 360/PS3 and letting B- and C-teams make Wii games.

Nintendo isnt making 360/ps3 games whats there excuse?

Smash Bros, MP 3, and Paper Mario could have easily been made on the gamecube. They are not pushing the envelope
 
Anticitizen One said:
Because I don't understand how Xbox was getting games like Chronicles of Riddick, Ninja Gaiden, Halo 2, Doom 3, KOTOR, and Conker Live & Reloaded but yet the Wii can't get anything even close in graphics and scope?
Xbox was better with shaders, from what I understand. Plus, the developers actually put effort into those Xbox games, which is a lot more than you can say for most Wii games, especially the third-party ones.
 
Anticitizen One said:
Nintendo isnt making 360/ps3 games whats there excuse?

Smash Bros, MP 3, and Paper Mario could have easily been made on the gamecube. They are not pushing the envelope
In the case of Paper Mario, it was a GC game that got moved to the Wii mid-development, since the GC was dead by then. The others have their own improvements over the GC entries, but you have to realize 2x power doesn't automatically mean 2x graphics. There's other factors involved.
 
cvxfreak said:
Come to think of it, with RE5 now out and DR Wii done.... :D

Hope rising ...

He's obviously got experience with the RE4 engine and Wii controls. :D

Link said:
Wii owners shouldn't expect hardcore cames because "teh casualz" won't buy them. Except the popular hardcore brands that people are familiar with. They don't count. So the Wii won't get those either. Makes total sense, doesn't it?

:lol

*shakes head calmly*

Eteric Rice said:
I haven't been keeping up... Is it bad?

I'll eventually buy Dead Rising Wii. To me, it doesn't really matter
as long as it has RE4 Wii controls
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I'm pretty sure most Wii owners here own either one or both other consoles, and still wants an original new main series Resident Evil game on Wii. Personally I would even prefer it to a 360/PS3-version IF given same focus/effort from A-team devs. And that is the only obstacle developers need to overcome. Make Wii games with the same relative budget and people as you would use for a PS3/360 game, put some marketing muscle behind it and the games will sell. There's no doubt that there are more than enough Wii/multiconsole owners already lined up and ready to vote with their money for these kinds of games. Darkside Chronicles however, is NOT it. I just hope Matt Dahlgren of OP quote and the rest of Capcom understand that.
 
Anticitizen One said:
I'm beginning to wonder if Nintendo lied when they said the wii would be twice the power of an xbox (or was it twice the power of a gamecube?) and in reality the system is actually just a gamecube?

Because I don't understand how Xbox was getting games like Chronicles of Riddick, Ninja Gaiden, Halo 2, Doom 3, KOTOR, and Conker Live & Reloaded but yet the Wii can't get anything even close in graphics and scope?

IF its truely a "2x gamecube" wouldnt that mean that most game would look better than RE 4 and Twilight Princess? So far they don't.

Super Mario Galaxy looks good no question but it seems like the only game where Nintendo made an effort. Metroid Prime 3 is alright but it was inferior graphically to most Xbox fps games.

well considering the Gamecube emulator only took a few months to get Wii games going as well I'd say people are paying outrageous prices for outdated tech.
 
donny2112 said:
Hope rising ...

He's obviously got experience with the RE4 engine and Wii controls. :D

Maybe Dead Rising isn't as good as it should be because they had to wrap up development quickly to get him working on an RE4-type RE Wii game, and that had to line up with the schedule of parts of the RE5 development team coming free. Dead Rising Wii might've even been just a way to get a bit more Wii experience under his belt while the RE5 team finished up.

Unfortunately, it makes sense. Dang you hope! :P
 
Anticitizen One said:
I'm beginning to wonder if Nintendo lied when they said the wii would be twice the power of an xbox (or was it twice the power of a gamecube?) and in reality the system is actually just a gamecube?

Because I don't understand how Xbox was getting games like Chronicles of Riddick, Ninja Gaiden, Halo 2, Doom 3, KOTOR, and Conker Live & Reloaded but yet the Wii can't get anything even close in graphics and scope?

Yeah because Starbreeze, Team Ninja, Bungie, id, Bioware, and Rare are putting out Wii games. :lol
 
donny2112 said:
Maybe Dead Rising isn't as good as it should be because they had to wrap up development quickly to get him working on an RE4-type RE Wii game, and that had to line up with the schedule of parts of the RE5 development team coming free. Dead Rising Wii might've even been just a way to get a bit more Wii experience under his belt while the RE5 team finished up.

Unfortunately, it makes sense. Dang you hope! :P
You sure love setting yourself up for disappointment.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
They said it was in the same style as UC in the text. Except "easier".

That sucks, I thought the difficulty in RE:UC was just about right, played well too. On a shallower note, if Dark Side looks better than the first, well then I suppose I could let it slide...just this once...
 
Anticitizen One said:
I'm beginning to wonder if Nintendo lied when they said the wii would be twice the power of an xbox (or was it twice the power of a gamecube?) and in reality the system is actually just a gamecube?

Because I don't understand how Xbox was getting games like Chronicles of Riddick, Ninja Gaiden, Halo 2, Doom 3, KOTOR, and Conker Live & Reloaded but yet the Wii can't get anything even close in graphics and scope?
What does that have to do with Darkside Chronicles though? Umbrella Chronicles was for the most part a very good looking game, certainly as good as any XBox or Gamecube game short of RE4 itself or Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. Other than certain areas and the horrible vertex lit flashlights they weren't skimping on the graphics like they did with Dead Rising Wii.




Evilink said:
That sucks, I thought the difficulty in RE:UC was just about right, played well too.
I think it could use larger weakpoints (the zombie forehead weakpoint was just ridiculous) and less instakill QTEs frankly.
 
UC2, biatches.

ok, on a more serious note:

re4 was a freak of nature - one of those creatures whose genes got stirred and re-matched, but at the end, as some divine irony, it came out as an out-of-this-world beauty.

nevertheless, its dr frankenstein was horrified of it. and they will never, ever, repeat that monstrous development experiment. heck, even re5 is a clear departure from the re4 formula, as much as it tries to stick to it. so forget it people, we will never see another re4 which is not actually re4:wiimake:wiimake.

ps: i liked UC a lot. i'll play UC2 with pleasure, unless capcom screw up royally.
 
I was just playing UC and I remember I had much more fun than HOTD: Overkill... so I am kinda excited about this.

HOTD 2 & 3 still is the best lightgun game which is kinda sad...
 
Fuck you whiners UC is pretty awesome for a light gun game is was pretty awesome and not "cheap"...the files were interesting, the levels were accurate, and it was just pretty fun to play with two players. I enjoyed it.
 
Saint Gregory said:
It's been clear for a while now (to me at least) that 3rd parties will never get totally in bed with Nintendo like they did with Sony and are willing to do with Microsoft and it's for one simple reason... to 3rd parties Nintendo will always be a competitor first and a partner second. If the day ever comes that Sony or MS can really output the level of software that Nintendo does (I'm talking sales not quality, let's not start that other embarrassing thread again) then I think you'll quickly see 3rd parties treat them the same way.


I agree. If this was Sony Wii then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

It's not the demographics that's hurting the Wii. Third parties just don't want to compete with Nintendo.
 
cvxfreak said:
Wow.......

For all the hate this game is getting, it's got visuals considerably beyond RE4.
You know gaffers. A bunch of bitchy little girls.
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Christopher said:
Fuck you whiners UC is pretty awesome for a light gun game is was pretty awesome and not "cheap"...the files were interesting, the levels were accurate, and it was just pretty fun to play with two players. I enjoyed it.
Yeah, the set pieces and pacing of UC is so good. Jill's RE3 stage, OMG! Anw not many will appreciate it.
 
I'm happy about the next game being a lightgun game, I'm disgruntled that it still appears to be a low-cost recycling project, and I am a bit peeved that we do not get something on the same level as RE5 with regards to budget and effort, but what can you do, really. By now I can't even muster enough energy to shrug and sigh.

Personally, I'll wait for its price to plunge and buy it for cheap. I want the game, but I have enough on-rail shooters for now, and after losing my job money is getting hella tight.

I'll buy that for a dollar.gif - now closer to reality than I'd have liked.
 
GhostSeed said:
Damn, this game does look pretty good graphically.
Yep, the visuals do seem pretty great from the hi-res scans. Definitely seems to be looking considerably better than the first game...Guess direct feed screens and vids should be telling.
 
WTF? Now the threads becoming slightly positive? Can't have that. Someone make empty threats towards Capcom or something.

Scans look awesome. If they can beef up the content and polish it more than UC it could be great.
 
It looks quite terrific but that does little to reverse my opinion.

If Capcom wanted to demonstrate that it was listening to its Wii owning Resident Evil fans and really wanted to make us happy, this should have been a game using a RE4 Wii control scheme.

Even so, that doesn't bother me too much since Wii gamers are getting conditioned for this kind of abuse and besides, Umbrella Chronicles was a pretty good game. The real kick in the pants is that Capcom almost made a RE4 type game but opted to make an already simple and fairly easy light gun game and now, this is designed to be even easier.
 
Scans looks sweet. Not sure about having someone in the way though... Really hope you are not going to be punished for accidently shooting them in the ass or something.
 
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