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Capcom wants to break records with Monster Hunter 4
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Not sure if serious.
This the thread is the worst, but it doesn't surprise me. It's just a game and has been announced as a 3DS exclusive for nearly 2 years now, get over it.
Looking forward to MH4 sales, let's see how much of that massive MHP3rd user base is still active and switched to the 3DS.
Looking forward to MH4 sales, let's see how much of that massive MHP3rd user base is still active and switched to the 3DS.
Why should Capcom care whether Vita is alive or not here? Isn't Sony the one who should do everything to save that platform? Just like how many screams 3DS death against Vita when it is doing badly and Nintendo needed to do extra thing to make 3DS better?
In a few months, instead of talking about port beggars without a 3DS, we'll be talking about localization beggars with one.
;-(
Imagine taking down a Garchomp.
phosphor112
Banned
I think it'll do real well, but breaking records usually involves multiple platforms.
Don't best selling game usually is an exclusive title?
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
LoL, no I'm pretty serious. Call me crazy but I believe MH can revive the Vita like how the series pretty much revived the PSP in Japan.
It can be done. I always been saying Dragons Dogma's engine was the perfect groundwork for a updated MH game.
Sony probably needs to moneyhat Capcom though.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Well it is a portable MH game with native online infrastructure mode. So that's reason to be excited.
I bet you've never played with the touch screen dpad camera. All I had to do was adjust it a bit and it feels amazing.
The_Joker1721
Member
I wonder what their expectations are. Hope it get's localized. Game looks so much fun. After playing MH3G I'm looking forward to this. If I remember correctly they are making moving around faster right? If so even better. I didn't mind it on the 3DS but it won't hurt to be a little faster!
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
It depends entirely on what type of records they have in mind, which in this case is explicitly framed as "records of the past installments," and setting a new one. I think it's very possible given the 3DS performance in Japan, if sales and install base are any indication. MH3G, a G expansion that didn't have the benefit of transferring saves for instance, went to beat multiple projections including Capcom's very own.
Whether the series should go multiplatform or not is another discussion that has been done to death since the announcement of MH4, so I'd rather not go there. But if we're strictly looking historically at what the series can do on one platform, I personally think all the requirements for a very successful MH installment that beats the PSP's last entry are in place, and can be reproduced and surpassed.
Going from PSP to 3DS is the better transition. Seriously that PSP claw gets old fast.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
When it comes to NoA, just drop the "A" and you get a "No!"
I'll order one when (or IF) MH4 comes out here. I hate playing MH without a second analog or with virtual d pads.
phosphor112
Banned
Games like COD and Fifa are record setters because almost anyone can get them.
I agree with everything you said. But factually, they'd get a bigger chance at record breakings if they were multiplat lol. All I'm sayin =P
ShinNL
Member
This is hard to say. It definitely won't break any first week sales, because the 3DS userbase is more diverse. So an almost comparable userbase total doesn't necessarily mean it's the same userbase for Monster Hunter, whereas the PSP was first and foremost a Monster Hunter machine.
Then again, it's the first portable version that has (free) online included. That's pretty damn huge by itself. People say it's mostly a Western thing, but I doubt Japan wouldn't also get a surge of potential sales because of this feature than it would have otherwise without.
I personally don't think it will break Portable 3rd sales, because that game had the hype going for it. It was the fourth installment on the same platform, so it build a big fanbase and PSP was nearing it's userbase peak. While 3DS is the portable to own now in Japan, it only has 1 installment so far (an installment even I skipped due to financial issues / lack of online / lack of a way to rerouting it to online).
I think the sales will be high, but not because the userbase is significantly large for it: a lot of the sales will probably be new 3DS buyers as well, a lot more so than Portable 3rd which had a lot more MH-only PSP owners.
Of course, trying to sensibly discuss and talk about the actual topic means nothing here seeing how the whole thread went. I'm sure my post is meaningless and will be ignored while this thread continues to shit up with port-begging, port-begging-bashing, port-begging-defense, port-begging-defense-bashing and port-begging-defense-defense. Shitheads. Get out of Monster Hunter threads, all of you who never even touched a single game of the franchise. That includes both extreme Sony and extreme Nintendo fans.
Then again, it's the first portable version that has (free) online included. That's pretty damn huge by itself. People say it's mostly a Western thing, but I doubt Japan wouldn't also get a surge of potential sales because of this feature than it would have otherwise without.
I personally don't think it will break Portable 3rd sales, because that game had the hype going for it. It was the fourth installment on the same platform, so it build a big fanbase and PSP was nearing it's userbase peak. While 3DS is the portable to own now in Japan, it only has 1 installment so far (an installment even I skipped due to financial issues / lack of online / lack of a way to rerouting it to online).
I think the sales will be high, but not because the userbase is significantly large for it: a lot of the sales will probably be new 3DS buyers as well, a lot more so than Portable 3rd which had a lot more MH-only PSP owners.
Of course, trying to sensibly discuss and talk about the actual topic means nothing here seeing how the whole thread went. I'm sure my post is meaningless and will be ignored while this thread continues to shit up with port-begging, port-begging-bashing, port-begging-defense, port-begging-defense-bashing and port-begging-defense-defense. Shitheads. Get out of Monster Hunter threads, all of you who never even touched a single game of the franchise. That includes both extreme Sony and extreme Nintendo fans.
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Deleted member 125677
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Port beggers be damned, I just look forward to play this game on my XL at some point!! 
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
What the fuck is going on here? I can't remember a platform getting this much unveiled hate as the 3DS is getting in this thread. What did the 3DS do to you guys? Putting a (handheld-centric!) game on 3DS in Japan doesn't seem to be a bad idea if you want to break records at all.
Perhaps those two things are linked.
to be fair, never giving ps3 or 360 a full western localisation of monster hunter seems like just a big 'fuck you' from capcom.
PC exclusive
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Deleted member 125677
Unconfirmed Member
Perhaps so. Port begging is still not acceptable. All it does is shit up the thread.
test_account
XP-39C²
I'm not sure if you mean this in corelation or if you mean it as seperate points (as in that what you say about the Vita is how the situation is now or how it was when the decision was made when Capcom decided which platform to put Monster Hunter 4 on), but Capcom chose to put Monster Hunter 4 on 3DS before either 3DS or Vita was out, so its not about the ecosystems. The 3DS and Vita ecosystems didnt excist when Capcom made the decision. Both pieces of hardware are also more than capable to run a Monster Hunter game as well. It was purely a business decision made in advance before the systems were released.
Its not necessarily more expencive to develope for Vita by the way. That depends on how much resources that are being put into the game.
Is this like DQIX were people were claiming it would do shit all unless it was ported to the psp or something?
That didn't happen then, it's not happening now.
Better spare the crocodile tears, if you want MH4 get the platform it's on.
Capcom's job is selling you MH4, not the platform you think it'd be better for.
Because we all know that at this point every single game would be better as PC exclusive anyway if you want the best game ever or on iOS/Android if you want to maximise the sales potential.
That didn't happen then, it's not happening now.
Better spare the crocodile tears, if you want MH4 get the platform it's on.
Capcom's job is selling you MH4, not the platform you think it'd be better for.
Because we all know that at this point every single game would be better as PC exclusive anyway if you want the best game ever or on iOS/Android if you want to maximise the sales potential.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
But this is not because they love Nintendo so much. Nintendo is publishing the Monster Hunter games in the US and Europe, so I'd guess they are also paying for the translation. If MS or Sony were to pay for that too, their MH games would come to the west, too.
Would be ideal for every game IMO, but this one seems to be thought of as a handheld franchise.
The rules on port begging seem to have relaxed slightly, presumably because otherwise every iOS thread would cull 20% of the boards population. In the context of a sales discussion regarding a game announced long ago, I don't really see the issue. It's not like the 3DS version is going to get cancelled or anything.
Wasn't the PS3 MH not coming to the US Sony's fault?
I'll tell you one huge thing that Capcom believe, and does seem borne out by events:
The PSP userbase has not moved on to the Vita en masse.
The great following on PSP, therefore, means little to them; a following on PSP in no way implies a following on Vita. One of the biggest dangers to good business in this industry is assuming loyalty.
test_account
XP-39C²
I think Monster Hunter 4 could be the best selling game in the serie. This is the first time that a main Monster Hunter game is a portable version to begin with, so its kinda like a "double whammy". There isnt a console version first, then you have to wait for a portable game. Now its all in one 
I earlier said that i think Monster Hunter 4 should be able to match Monster Hunter Portable 3rd's first week of sales, but i forgot that MH4 only have 2 days of sales while MHP3rd had 5. I do think that MH4 should be able to sell 2+ millions within the two first weeks though (9 days of sales tracking), especially now that a digital download version excist, so there will be no shortages (except for those who only want a physical copy of course).
I earlier said that i think Monster Hunter 4 should be able to match Monster Hunter Portable 3rd's first week of sales, but i forgot that MH4 only have 2 days of sales while MHP3rd had 5. I do think that MH4 should be able to sell 2+ millions within the two first weeks though (9 days of sales tracking), especially now that a digital download version excist, so there will be no shortages (except for those who only want a physical copy of course).
MightyKAC
Member
From what I heard Capcom didn't want to add in trophies or use PSN as it's online infrastructure so Sony said no to the localization.
fair enough, I think it just seems illogical for such a system seller to not put their games on systems which it would be sure to sell a lot of copies.
the 3ds is the best system to release this game on.
its continually selling every other system in japan and sales of 1st & 3rd party titles are very healthy too.
the vita is a nice little handheld, but it's too niche to release this game on it, and is a porr market to release your main titles on if you're a 3rd party entity.
it's a like a very good looking girl who you know has the beggining stages of lepracy. yeah she looks hot, but there's nothing on the horizon that will make things better for her.
except jesus. maybe.
face it, console warriors; there is NO BETTER system is japan to release this game on.
Don't blame nintendo, becasue the 3ds and the game library it has is fantastic.
blame sony for creating the wiiU of the handheld market.
its continually selling every other system in japan and sales of 1st & 3rd party titles are very healthy too.
the vita is a nice little handheld, but it's too niche to release this game on it, and is a porr market to release your main titles on if you're a 3rd party entity.
it's a like a very good looking girl who you know has the beggining stages of lepracy. yeah she looks hot, but there's nothing on the horizon that will make things better for her.
except jesus. maybe.
face it, console warriors; there is NO BETTER system is japan to release this game on.
Don't blame nintendo, becasue the 3ds and the game library it has is fantastic.
blame sony for creating the wiiU of the handheld market.
ShinNL
Member
The problem isn't the context, this stuff happens in every MH thread... whatever the context or timeframe. It's no secret that English speaking MH fans really despise fanboys (of any system/company) using this game to fuel their pretty wars.
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Deleted member 125677
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This is something that the Vita faithful hasn't got their heads around yet.
Sony failed to show to Psp owners that the upgrade was worth it.
With MH3G getting a release while Sony was twidling its thumbs it's clear that the PSP audience went elsewhere.
Seriously this needs to stop in every trailer threads.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
As a huge MH nut, I find this all quite silly.
I've always followed the series wherever it went: PC, PSP, PS2, PS3, 3DS and Wii U. Well, not everyone can follow the series like I can, but not everyone is a huge MH nut as well.
I guess I can see where someone comes from if they can't do so, and would like to have the game on their preferred platform. Still, port-begging in threads like this really just stink up the place.
I don't know what to say, man. Ignore it?
It's like Bayonetta 2 or Breath of Fire 6. I'd imagine it was the same when FF changed platforms back in the day. Sometimes devs / publishers make moves that frustrate a large portion of their fanbase and the vocal minority tend to be very vocal indeed. I'd imagine that any port-begging in the official thread for the game will be punished very harshly.
People vocally oppose the very concept of developing for iOS at all.People really beg for ports of iOS games?
Metallix87
Member
It's not like Breath of Fire 6. Not at all. That's the destruction of an IP, not a simple platform shift for the franchise.
Mailenstein
Member
I'm so pumped for next month. Woot!
I really don't want to get dragged into this mire too much, but it is kinda similar. The Vita is far more powerful, region free, and has a second analogue stick. If this was a game I was passionate about, I'd be bummed out that it was arriving on my other handheld.
That said, it is what it is and as a Vita 'fan', I find the port begging a little embarrassing. People need to just let it go.
Sammy Samusu
Member
This guy wants MH4 to sell 5 million, for those who don't know.
Also, all record breaking games in Japan are exclusives. So sit down.
Also, all record breaking games in Japan are exclusives. So sit down.
Apparently it's ok in sales thread, so let people beg!
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I'm passionate about the Wii U, too, that doesn't mean that I wish for all PS4 / Xbone exclusive games to fail to meet their expectations. Being passionate about a platform is not the same as hating all other platforms, why would anyone do this? Especially if you like the franchise in question, shouldn't you wish for it to be successful? It seems illogical to me to be more loyal to a platform than to the games you like.
Metallix87
Member
Why, though? The platform shift was announced before the Vita even launched. It's ancient history now. Why is this still an issue two years later? It's not like the Vita even has the hardware sales to justify a port at this point.
5 million is...well, the 3DS is getting Pokemon a month later. No reason to think it won't suck up all the money in Japan by then.
and yeah I was pissed about it going to 3DS instead of the Vita when it was announced, even if I was entirely expecting it. But holy fuck I'm over it already.
and yeah I was pissed about it going to 3DS instead of the Vita when it was announced, even if I was entirely expecting it. But holy fuck I'm over it already.