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Capcom wants to break records with Monster Hunter 4
- Thread starter Sammy Samusu
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both are actually more powerful than the psp and that's really the only concern a MH fan should have.
Region free is a concern only if you're not Japanese (and if you're not, well you most certainly shouldn't have not choosed a Vita anyway).
And the 2nd analog is present on 3DS too so that's clearly not a pb here.
If you're a MH fan that want the best & mightiest you should be unhappy that it is on handheld instead of console like every other numbered sequels.
Metallix87
Member
They clearly disagree with you and your assessment.
Magicpaint
Member
5 million is a very tall order. Even MHP3rd didn't get there, so I highly doubt it. But it will depend on the legs and how well this co-exists with Pokemon leading to the holidays. It could go either way, I think.
Same reason that a guy with a 360 and a beastly gaming rig would rather see a game available on his beastly gaming rig, I guess.
I agree. I thought it was a shame that Sony lost MH, and I think it's had a devastating effect on the Vita as a viable platform, but it's done now. It's over. It isn't going to change, in fact it's less likely than ever. That's why I say it's kind of embarrassing.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Kinda, but Monster Hunter 4 seems to be quite similar to the last few Monster Hunters, whereas BoF6 is going in a completely different direction. If I was a fan of BoF and had a smartphone (which both is not the case), I'd be bitching a lot about BoF, not primarily because it's on a smartphone (I hate the dl-only model, so I'd be opposed to that, too), but because the game seems to be a too drastic departure from the last games of the series. The outcry because of BoF6 is more comparable to the one because of Banjo Nuts & Bolts than the one because of MH4.
ShinNL
Member
Actually, I wouldn't mind if it was like Bayonetta or Breath of Fire or Final Fantasy. Those are mostly actual fans of the franchise speaking out. I guarantee you that most of the thread ruiners in MH threads have not touched a single MH game. It's a big difference.
And why would MH fans ignore these people? We get gems out of it like 'compelling textures'.
I doubt many of us even care or lose sleep over this issue. But I just find it fundamentally strange that a MH fan is not allowed to point out 'gosh, so much port begging' in a MH thread, whereas port beggers who've never played any of the games get a free pass. In essence that's kind of what you're telling me: let them port-beg, MH-fans ignore them and don't reply. There's something wrong with that.
klapauzius
Banned
The Vita is apparently dead in Japan. Even almost two years after release and with some big First-Party games the hardware sales are low. So a MH4 release on this plattform is very unlikely.
A Wii U release could be possible, because Capcom sits on Nintendos lap regarding to the MH series. But only if the Wii U sales increase this holiday (but this is likely with all these big upcoming games).
A Wii U release could be possible, because Capcom sits on Nintendos lap regarding to the MH series. But only if the Wii U sales increase this holiday (but this is likely with all these big upcoming games).
Metallix87
Member
If anything, Vita owners should be rallying behind God Eater 2, as that looks to be the game that could truly fill in the Monster Hunter void. I'd be worried that, if that game doesn't move big numbers on Vita, that a God Eater game could land on 3DS, further exacerbating the situation for Vita. Thus, I would assume Vita owners should let go of Monster Hunter and focus on that title.
IF a Wii U release happens, and I do think it's a possibility, it'll be because Nintendo pushed (read: payed) for it, and because Capcom still wants to keep expanding the franchise in the West, and that means putting it on a console. The fact that they were pleased with worldwide sales of Tri G on Wii U seems to indicate they're willing to accept the Wii U situation.
It's kind of a given especially since the series originated and was popular on PlayStation systems.
Ok I get why Vita owners are so pissed....If they only have God Eater now....
Metallix87
Member
Why is that a given? Final Fantasy originated and first became popular on Nintendo systems.
Yeah, I can see the difference, it was just the first game that popped into my head after Bayo 2. I'm sure there have been plenty of other franchises in the past that have jumped platform, and I'd imagine it always inspires the same sort of ire.
I don't presume to know whether the port-beggers have played previous entries or not. You might well be right, or you might be doing them a disservice. I mainly tell you to ignore it for your own peace of mind, not because I think you should lie down and take it because they're on the side of righteous truth or anything.
The ballad of the Gen 8 handhelds has already been written. There isn't a title on either side that will change anything now or in the future.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Possibly, but I cannot understand this - and this is coming from someone who had to buy a Vita for a single series jumping ship: Monkey Ball turning from a Nintendo exclusive (with some ports for other platforms) to a Vita-exclusive
.If they're complaining about ground textures over the new weapons/monsters shown they clearly never care about it before begging for a port.
We were searching for more coffin nails when MH exploded on PSP, I wouldn't rule out everything...
Possibly, but I cannot understand this - and this is coming from someone who had to buy a Vita for a single series jumping ship: Monkey Ball turning from a Nintendo exclusive (with some ports for other platforms) to a Vita-exclusive
WOa! Monkey ball still exists?
AdventureRacing
Member
If MH4 was released for the vita it would essentially be the same game but with prettier graphics (and you're making a big assumption that capcom would even take advantage of the specs considering the history of the franchise).
Breath of fire 6 is a completely different game to the previous entries in the series. If they had announced the game for ios and it was basically a sequel in the vein of BOF2 but on the iphone i would have been ecstatic (RPG's are well suited to smartphones).
The backlash there is because this is a game that is completely destroying a franchise (which to be fair capcom had already killed). This is just people begging for the game on another platform because they want prettier graphics or because it's their console of choice.
Edit: Bayo 2 is different because frankly the game simply wouldn't exist if it hadn't changed platforms. That isn't the case with MH4.
Frankfurter
Member
Pretty sure it's gonna break records, worldwide that is. Japan only? Not so sure, although it definitely has incredible hype going for it.
That's only true in Japan.
Metallix87
Member
Irrelevant. The idea is to keep the Vita alive, even if it never really improves it's standing in terms of worldwide sales.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
One of the best games in the series actually. Not as good as the first two, mainly due to control issues (small, relatively imprecise analog stick on Vita), but really fun games
You bought a Vita, just to play a SEGA title?Possibly, but I cannot understand this - and this is coming from someone who had to buy a Vita for a single series jumping ship: Monkey Ball turning from a Nintendo exclusive (with some ports for other platforms) to a Vita-exclusive
I will hunt you down and buy you dinner. I'm welling up here.
OK, I'm on really dodgy ground here, but that might be because the game is really ugly, even for a 3DS game. They seem to have (understandably) prioritised animation over everything else, so whilst it looks OK in motion, it looks horrific in screens. It looks worse than MH3 at first glance.
Eh, barring some sort of freak-of-gaming-nature, it's over. The Vita isn't going to attain any sort of mainstream acceptance, let alone mount any sort of challenge against the 3DS.
SchleimanTank
Member
This. This so much. Every MH thread on gaf ever brings out pages after pages of people who don't play MH and/or don't buy the systems MH are on and feel the need to tell the world about it.
* Port to platform xxx and maybe I will buy it
* PS2 graphics lol/No compelling textures
* Gameplay sucks, MH should be less like MH and more like <skyrim/dark souls/gears of war>
(ironically the same thing happens to dark souls threads)
There's no question that the games (and Capcom's handling of them) have their flaws and deserve to be criticized. But every MH thread turns into arguments by people who aren't fans of the games, it's really tiresome.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
It's not the only game I played on it, I'm also reviewing games and like to play some other games like AC3L. But yeah, Monkey Ball is the reason I bought a Vita and if it was the only game ever to be released in Vita, I'd still be satisfied with the purchase. Glad that makes you happy
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*The crowds part - SmokeyDave appears. Hushed silence*
"May he who is without a smartphone cast the first nokia."
All the same really.
We danced that dance before they were probably whining about the Wii MH3 when it's a stunner compared to the psp games anyway.
And really the game never looked as bad as the demo of MH3U on 3DS, that shit nearly made me consider getting the WiiU version!
I'll grant that it really looked blocky in that reveal trailer back then....like worse than psp bad (but it seemed more openworld too).
Still the animation more than make up for it and this shouldn't be the initial reaction to a new trailer now.
About monkey ball, man it's good to see it's not dead!
I take you never played a BoF game.
Sammy Samusu
Member
drag :lol
Vita boys were excited for Ragnarok and Valhalla Knights though. They should stan harder for God Eater.
Metallix87
Member
Exactly. We had people hyping up those games and Soul Sacrifice as "Monster Hunter's replacement on Vita", and many eagerly anticipating the releases. The energy seems to have been drained now, and people have resorted to port begging and blind optimism.
:/ I don't what hurt more.
Tracking and downloading that godawful demo or Type 0 knowing that the only good game was incomprehensible and the other was getting a release here.
fabricated backlash
Member
From my experience, the discussion in almost every MH thread since Tri was announced has revolved around port begging and concern trolling about the wasted potential of growth and technical advancement.
Rarely do I see the game being discussed as anything more than a token claimed by a company.
So you seriously think there was nobody back in 1997 who wanted FF7 on the N64?
If you can't find anything else to play it's really your fault at this point (speaking 3DS/360). If you won't buy a sub 200bucks system for a game that would provide you with more than 100hrs of playtime it's really your loss and not Capcom's considering the userbase on Vita.
Probably more people wanted DQVII though...
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I see nothing wrong with the bolded statement, and if you think everyone begging for a port is a sorry Vita owner who can't get over the fact it went to the 3DS, then you're clueless. There's more to these things than blind fanboyism. What's really absurd is some of these narratives some people here created.
Hardware enables games. One trap I've seen several people fall into is that they only think of that in terms of power or control methods, but there's a third way in which this is subtly true: The *ecosystem* the hardware engenders also serves to enable certain games to be released on them. MH is on 3DS because Capcom believes that the ecosystem the 3DS has created around it (Possibly aided by generous terms from Nintendo - that's absolutely a component in this consideration!) will allow it to make a profit.
Now, it's perfectly viable to suggest that they're *wrong* in that belief, and discuss from that standpoint, but you have to factor in the fact that there's quite a bit of evidence which suggests that they are in fact correct, and not a lot to the contrary.
Metallix87
Member
But people moved on. It's been two years already. Vita owners need to let it go.
I never said there was anything wrong with the bolded statement. My point was that the enthusiasm a lot of Vita owners had has seemingly evaporated, and all we see now is port begging.
Given that the record in question was *set* on a single platform...
If this was a general update about the game then there would be very few (if any) people in this thread stating they would like a Vita version. No, this is a debate about sales (baited by Capcom themselves with there 'statement'), and more platforms generally means better sales and that is what's been put forward.
fabricated backlash
Member
... right... if this was a regular update to the game, we would have 5 pages filled with people complaining about the ground textures, all the while insinuating that it would look better on Vita aka stealth port begging.
And no more platforms don't always mean more sales, especially when the platform in question has such a minuscule install base at the moment, that porting it would more than likely not be worth the investment.
To be fair, I remember thinking about that regarding the PSP, and then MH exploded. So it's not impossible. Lightning-in-a-bottle unlikely, perhaps, but not impossible.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Any my point was its unhealthy to view *everyone* discussing multiplatform releases as a starving Vita owner who can't get over where the series has headed. It's sort of an offensive and ignorant broad brushstroke.
Saying stuff like that does nothing but perpetuate this meta discussion.
Or Nintendo shouldn't have paid a lot of money, so that it stays exclusive to the 3DS (which I still believe
)The Vita threads have plenty of people happy with the system. But keep trying to push that blind fanboy narrative.
clay_ghost
Member
I think he is not talking about those in the vita thread but those who port beg 3ds games.
Even if they have a 3ds port they beg for a console port(see batman, and the portable version looks better too !)
Or Nintendo shouldn't have paid a lot of money, so that it stays exclusive to the 3DS (which I still believe
Capcom make the right deal if what you said is true , seeing that without mh vita hardware sales are bad. They earn much more on 3ds plus free money from Nintendo . With Pokemon out, there is a chance mh break its past sales records with the increase user base.