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Captain America: Civil War SPOILER Thread - #TeamThanos
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Inferno313
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Do they age-up Marisa Tomei at all with grey hair or anything? Or do they let her look like herself?
whatsinaname
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The Steve scene where he is holding that helicopter with Bucky in it got a huge reaction at my theater.
MadLaughter
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Hahaha not at all. "We come in all shapes and sizes," she says in reference to aunts.
No gray hair, she looks like Marisa Tomei, gorgeous.
BronsonLee
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Stark even talks about how unusually attractive Peter's aunt is
Tomei da GOAT
PadWarrior
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Tony Stank, aunt banger extraordinaire
Inferno313
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Sweet, even beyond my, er, purile reasons for hoping they wouldn't do that. I've never understood why Aunt May is supposed to be so fucking Elderly. She's Aunt May, not Great Aunt May.
BronsonLee
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Gordon Shumway
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Because it happens. My Aunt was 70+ when she died..I was 18.
I was wondering why it pissed off Peter so much then I realized Uncle Ben only died like 5-6 months ago
Your mother's or father's sister?
BronsonLee
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I really liked that Peter didn't want to talk about Uncle Ben/he was never mentioned. There's no way he would just open up about it to a stranger, even if that stranger is Tony Stark
I did lol at Tomei's somehow being both oblivious and aware of everything
So what happens after Cap beats Tony? I know its a text description, but I find it funny that Tony just goes "whoops, I fucked up that one, I guess I better go help Steve" then a reverse-martha happens and they fight each other. Do they escape? What about the rest of the now-fugitives?
Gordon Shumway
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Mother's older sister..
PadWarrior
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So how accurate is this as a ranking of the current mcu power levels
Hulk
Thor
Vision
Scarlet witch
Spidey
Cap/Panther/Bucky
Iron Man
War machine
Ant man ( not really sure how to rank him due to his giant man ability which sounds like isn't used for long)
Falcon/Hawkeye/widow
Not sure where to put the guardians. I miss anyone?
Hulk
Thor
Vision
Scarlet witch
Spidey
Cap/Panther/Bucky
Iron Man
War machine
Ant man ( not really sure how to rank him due to his giant man ability which sounds like isn't used for long)
Falcon/Hawkeye/widow
Not sure where to put the guardians. I miss anyone?
BronsonLee
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Cap and Bucky escape to Wakanda.
Tony goes back to the Avengers compound.
The fugitives get sprung by Cap from the Raft.
Gordon Shumway
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Spidey should be in that Cap/Panther/Bucky bracket..
More_Badass
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I'd put Ant Man higher. Not only can he play both the stealth and strength of the coin, he can disable machines and electronics from within and banish people to the quantum realm. If he was a villain or didn't care about killing, he'd be a force to be reckoned with
I wish there was an after credits sequence of just Thor coming back to earth and wondering what the fuck happened.
The Raft is the water prison base thing in the trailer. Cap breaks them out of prison.
Sprung? Not quite sure what that means, raft? Are you referencing secret wars? lol
BronsonLee
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He knocked out the guards and helped them escape.
Raft is that underwater prison thing. It's named in the movie. And it's new
MadLaughter
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Cap breaks Ant-man, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch and Falcon out of prison.
Ross does, Tony says he didn't know they were gonna get locked up like that
I actually like Tony a lot, all his fuckups are part of his character, but man I really hope that is true and he didn't really know, the point is that he is a well-meaning misguided asshole, sending his former comrades to prison would be too much lol. I guess that's why Natasha is angry at him at the end?
PadWarrior
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Hmm is that cause spidey is a noob and has less combat experience?
Yea I was wrestling with what to do with him. You bring up good points.
MadLaughter
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Yeah it's mostly Ross, but Tony does say "You all broke the law, I didn't make you do that."
I'm so glad that Marvel didn't have Ross be secretly Hydra or being a bad guy. Ross is a guy that comes off as an asshole, but the events of the film do nothing but solidify his resolve.
The Accords still being in effect at the end of the movie is cool and could lead to some interesting developments in the TV side if they're given the opportunity.
I'm surprised Zemo didn't become a baron by the end of the film. With the rumors that he was going to be the MCU's Doctor Doom I was expecting him to apart of Sklovia's ruling family or something to that effect.
The Accords still being in effect at the end of the movie is cool and could lead to some interesting developments in the TV side if they're given the opportunity.
I'm surprised Zemo didn't become a baron by the end of the film. With the rumors that he was going to be the MCU's Doctor Doom I was expecting him to apart of Sklovia's ruling family or something to that effect.
Don't the accords only affect the avengers? Still not quite sure what the actual thing entails.
Beat me to it.
Remember this speech? Why am I posting this here? No reason at all...
Tony can be such a dickIt seems to effect all enhanced people with the Avengers being first to deal with. Panther isn't apart of the Avenger's organization but T'challa coming out ends in his arrest and presumably signing the Accords himself.
More_Badass
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I saw that episode of Jessica Jones too
whatsinaname
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The few lines he had, Freeman did a fairly good job of pulling off Everett's snarkiness. Excited to see him in Wakanda.
Didn't feel rushed, and even when they were fighting it was not to kill each other. Other than Panther wanting to kill Bucky.
BronsonLee
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At the airport fight, nobody is shooting to kill, but it very clearly gets out of hand because these are enhanced people trying to win a fight
It would've been fine if Vision knew how to fucking aim and Falcon didn't know how to dodge
It would've been fine if Vision knew how to fucking aim and Falcon didn't know how to dodge
PadWarrior
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How bad does panther beat down Bucky?
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
After this and Age of Ultron, I have to admit...Hawkeye is cool. He took on Black Widow, Black Panther, and even The Vision. Balls of steel on that guy.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Vision would just phase into peoples' bodies and rip out their spinal columns if he was fighting to kill. Everyone should be really happy Ultron didn't get that body.
After spending the following hours just letting Civil War soak in my head, I'm left in disbelief with a strange feeling of emptiness. And no, it's not because Civil War was bad. Quite the opposite, I'm left with this feeling of emptiness because I'm not sure how Marvel can top themselves after this. The Russos (or more specially, Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely, the Captain America trilogy writers) pretty much covered every base masterfully. In terms of what I mean.
5/5 Stars
And by the way, one iconic Captain America quote was said during the film,
- The New Avengers all have a role to play in this film. None of them are quick cameos put in just for set pieces. This more than applies to Black Panther &, to an extent, Spider-Man.
- Speaking of Spider-Man
, he's pretty much the Spidey we know & love. The way he acts, fights, & quips is like something out of Spectacular Spider-Man. And seeing him geek out about the Avengers as he's kicking their asses is a sight to behold.(surprisingly-hot Aunt May aside, which Tony even points out)There was one particular song (this one, Left Hand Free by alt-J) that Peter was listening to that I really want to get, but I don't know the name of the song until today thanks to a fellow GAFer. It'd be interesting if they go the Star-Lord approach (to one extent) with Peter's music in his solo films.He's about as much in the film as Wonder Woman was in Batman v Superman. Long enough to have a lasting impact on the film (about 30 minutes), but not long enough to be as integral as, say, Black Panther. One reviewer put it best, in that Spider-Man was the best & most expendable part of the film.I should also note that the rumor about Spider-Man's prototype suit having a hoodie & goggles was real. I couldn't get a good look at the goggles themselves, but they looked pretty similar to the camera lens-esque goggles that the Russos apparently put up on Twitter. I'll have to watch it again to be sure.
- Black Panther.....holy mother of god. He's straight-up comic-accurate. He carries himself like royalty, he gives fucks to nobody, cuts straight to the point with no bullshit attached, & he's a straight-up badass.
Not much more needs to be said about Black Panther. Get hype for his solo film (which, thanks to Ryan Coogler being attached, who apparently helped with some of T'Challa's dialogue in Civil War, has me even more hypedAnd don't worry, Wakanda was done justice, as well.
- Baron Zemo was MUCH better than I expected him to be, & played a bigger role in the film's plot than I anticipated. While granted, he wasn't exactly the comic book version in terms of design (far from it), one critic was pretty close to the mark when he said that MCU Zemo was similar to Ed Brubaker's Zemo.
And worry not, Baron Zemo is not a one-&-done villain. Black Panther made sure of that.
- Without delving into too much, the airport scene certainly lives up to the hype. The Russo Secret Sauce is real. I don't even think I should put stuff in spoiler tags for this, you just have to see it for yourself.
- The final act was easily the best of the MCU up to this point, & it's not just because of the fact that it isn't a huge explosion-based finale. Let me just give a tiny little hint (which I'll put in spoiler tags just in case, even though I'm not outright revealing anything),
something that was revealed in Winter Soldier comes back to bite Cap in the ass.
- There quite a lot of humor in this film, & not just from Spider-Man. But the great thing is that none of them take away from the tone of the film & in some ways helps build the characters more.
- This movie does a MUCH better job justifying Tony's point of view concerning the Registration Act/Sokovia Accords than in the comics (which ended up villainizing Tony). You can understand where Tony's coming from &, in a way, I did have second thoughts about my stance with #TeamCap.
5/5 Stars
And by the way, one iconic Captain America quote was said during the film,
though not by Cap himself.
Glass Rebel
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spill the beans
About Baron Zemo or the final act?
PadWarrior
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I need me a mcu spidey avatar
BronsonLee
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Zemo's plot is to fracture the Avengers. He succeeds.
Cap knows that Bucky killed Tony's parents. Zemo shows the tape of Bucky murdering them while all three of them are in the room. Tony confronts him about it and Cap admits he knew, cue the fight
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