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[Mr. Poolman]

Saw it yesterday.

I loved it!

Man they nailed Spidey!!!

Finally a Peter that isn't a loser (like Tobey's), just some really smart kid trying to do good.

And yeah, I was at the edge of my seat when it looked like Cap was going to hit Tony's head or go for the kill. That was intense!

 

[Betty]

Tony saved new york from the the nuke and destroyed the invading aliens, that's a win that'll last a while.

 

[Fandangox]

What are you guys talking about.

He made Spidey's suit.


How big of a win you'd need after that?

 

[NotLiquid]

Tony saved new york from the the nuke and destroyed the invading aliens, that's a win that'll last a while.

Yeah but Loki used Tony's tower to even begin the invasion in the first place so technically he's just cleaning up his own mess

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Tony saved new york from the the nuke and destroyed the invading aliens, that's a win that'll last a while.

Every time I think of this moment, I'm reminded that avengers is really stupid movie.

 

[ShinoguTakeruKoeru]

Tony saved new york from the the nuke and destroyed the invading aliens, that's a win that'll last a while.

Judging by Rhodey's comment in Age of Ultron, Stark keeps trying to ride the coattails of that win.

"We are not going to Halal Guys again, Tony, we're getting John's Pizza-"

"I SAVED NEW YORK BY THROWING A NUKE INTO SPACE!"

"Damn it Tony."

 

[Betty]

Judging by Rhodey's comment in Age of Ultron, Stark keeps trying to ride the coattails of that win.

"We are not going to Halal Guys again, Tony, we're getting John's Pizza-"

"I SAVED NEW YORK BY THROWING A NUKE INTO SPACE!"

"Damn it Tony."

I'd bring it up too if I was him.

Hell we all would.

 

[Lonestar]

I'd bring it up too if I was him.

Hell we all would.

At this point, should have let the nuke go off. I mean, that's what the governing body at the moment chose to do.

 

[Sadist]

That's because Rhodey doesn't have any good stories for parties, he be jelly of Tony.

 

[neorej]

Tony saved new york from the the nuke and destroyed the invading aliens, that's a win that'll last a while.

And got PTSD in the process....

 

[Dalek]

In the synopsis on Wikipedia it says that Steve leaves his shield behind in that lab at the end of the movie? Please tell me that's not true.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

In the synopsis on Wikipedia it says that Steve leaves his shield behind in that lab at the end of the movie? Please tell me that's not true.

Why are you in the spoiler thread? You seriously can't wait a couple more days?

 

[Palette Swap]

That's because Rhodey doesn't have any good stories for parties, he be jelly of Tony.

Well, he has one now.

 

[Dalek]

Why are you in the spoiler thread? You seriously can't wait a couple more days?

Spoilers don't matter to me. If I could see the movie now, I would.

 

[Palette Swap]

In the synopsis on Wikipedia it says that Steve leaves his shield behind in that lab at the end of the movie? Please tell me that's not true.

Well :

That shield doesn't belong to you.
You don't deserve it.
My father made that shield.

Heart wrenching.

 

[inky]

Spoilers don't matter to me. If I could see the movie now, I would.

Tony and Steve fight, Tony tells him to leave it behind, Steve does.

 

[Ein Bear]

Just got home from seeing it.

What a great movie. I honestly went in with low expectations, thinking the movie would be a bit of a mess trying to juggle so many different characters, but they completely pulled it off. They managed to satisfyingly continue the plot threads from the previous solo Cap movies, whilst giving all the Avengers characters fun stuff to do. Spider-Man's introduction felt a bit forced, but he was so enjoyable to watch on-screen that it's easily worth the slight awkwardness.

RDJ does great work too. Felt like he was phoning in in a bit for the last Avengers film, but he really sells the emotional scenes in this one.

 

[Mr. Poolman]

Loved the Wakanda post credits scene, at first I was confused who was helping Cap with such degree of technology.

Also, the girl on T'challa's group was Shuri? he said he would like to see a fight between her and Black Widow.

 

[Boss Doggie]

On that note, this is the first Marvel villain sans Loki who didn't die, I think?

 

[Renekton]

Loved the Wakanda post credits scene, at first I was confused who was helping Cap with such degree of technology.

Also, the girl on T'challa's group was Shuri? he said he would like to see a fight between her and Black Widow.

Probably just one of his bodyguards.

 

[kurahador]

On that note, this is the first Marvel villain sans Loki who didn't die, I think?

They did kill Crossbone though.

 

[NotLiquid]

On that note, this is the first Marvel villain sans Loki who didn't die, I think?

I wouldn't be surprised if villains like Red Skull, Ronan and Malekith were just pocketed into infinity stones and Thanos brings them out during Infinity War tbh

 

[Callibretto]

On that note, this is the first Marvel villain sans Loki who didn't die, I think?

Well, Rumlow and Zola survived their initial debut film. They're both dead in the next sequel though.

Oh and Abomination technically still alive somewhere. Same with Trevor

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Loved the Wakanda post credits scene, at first I was confused who was helping Cap with such degree of technology.

Also, the girl on T'challa's group was Shuri? he said he would like to see a fight between her and Black Widow.

lol no, not shuri, c'mon yo she's a princess.

 

[Broken Joystick]

I wouldn't be surprised if villains like Red Skull, Ronan and Malekith were just pocketed into infinity stones and Thanos brings them out during Infinity War tbh

Watched The First Avenger a couple days ago and it really does seem like he's transported rather than killed. Of course, that leads him into space, where he's sure to die, but who knows, perhaps it went to the location of the staff, therefore Thanos, and he's potentially alive?

 

[Houndi101]

Well, Rumlow and Zola survived their initial debut film. They're both dead in the next sequel though.

Oh shit Zemo confirmed for dead next time he shows up

 

[Jack Scofield]

I'm not reading the rest of this thread (only the replies to this post), but if someone could answer this for me it would be great.

Does Cap (or any other major character) die in this film? Excited to see if the stakes are higher in this film than in the rest of the MCU.

 

[icespide]

I'm not reading the rest of this thread (only the replies to this post), but if someone could answer this for me it would be great.

Does Cap (or any other major character) die in this film? Excited to see if the stakes are higher in this film than in the rest of the MCU.

no one dies

 

[Houndi101]

I'm not reading the rest of this thread (only the replies to this post), but if someone could answer this for me it would be great.

Does Cap (or any other major character) die in this film? Excited to see if the stakes are higher in this film than in the rest of the MCU.

Sure.

 

[Glass Rebel]

I'm not reading the rest of this thread (only the replies to this post), but if someone could answer this for me it would be great.

Does Cap (or any other major character) die in this film? Excited to see if the stakes are higher in this film than in the rest of the MCU.

fucking hell

 

[Palette Swap]

Loved the Wakanda post credits scene, at first I was confused who was helping Cap with such degree of technology.

Also, the girl on T'challa's group was Shuri? he said he would like to see a fight between her and Black Widow.

I assumed the girl was a Dora Milaje, although they can retcon her into whatever they want later on. She's credited as bodyguard or something generic like that.

I loved that post credits thing as it did two things right : give that bittersweet closure to Bucky's story, and open up the world by showing Wakanda. It's a shame BP isn't next year as I was pumped for a BP movie after watching this one.

On that note, this is the first Marvel villain sans Loki who didn't die, I think?

Nebula in Guardians? She wasn't the main antagonist but you could argue Thanos and her were explicitly villains in the movie.

no one dies

You could argue this is the death of Captain America though.

 

[inky]

I'm not reading the rest of this thread (only the replies to this post), but if someone could answer this for me it would be great.

Does Cap (or any other major character) die in this film? Excited to see if the stakes are higher in this film than in the rest of the MCU.

Cap decapitates Tony with his shield then pisses on his grave. Then he's captured and raped in prison.

The stakes have never been higher.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Nebula in Guardians? She wasn't the main antagonist but you could argue Thanos and her were explicitly villains in the movie.

nvm

 

[Jack Scofield]

no one dies

Sure.

fucking hell

Cap decapitates Tony with his shield then pisses on his grave. Then he's captured and raped in prison.

The stakes have never been higher.

Seems to be some kind of inside joke that I stumbled upon, haha. Anyway, thanks guys.

 

[black070]

It would be pretty funny if after Stephen makes his debut as the sorcerer supreme i.e. the latter half of his movie, he gets court ordered by the Accords. Would make for a humorous post credit scene if they got Everet Ross to do it.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

The soundtrack's grown on me after a few listens but it's still pretty forgettable. I do like the Civil War track though. It was good in the airport scene but there's so much shit going on then, it got overshadowed.

 

[icespide]

The soundtrack's grown on me after a few listens but it's still pretty forgettable. I do like the Civil War track though. It was good in the airport scene but there's so much shit going on then, it got overshadowed.

I wonder if there are any hints of a theme for Spider-man during the airport scene

 

[BronsonLee]

Nebula in Guardians? She wasn't the main antagonist but you could argue Thanos and her were explicitly villains in the movie.

I'm pretty sure Nebula is going to fuck over Thanos and will be the real end boss of the Infinity War anyways

Seems to be some kind of inside joke that I stumbled upon, haha. Anyway, thanks guys.

People have come in here before and complained that since nobody died, there's no stakes to the film

 

[Mr. Poolman]

I'm not reading the rest of this thread (only the replies to this post), but if someone could answer this for me it would be great.

Does Cap (or any other major character) die in this film? Excited to see if the stakes are higher in this film than in the rest of the MCU.

The only way to raise stakes is with characters dying?

How about friendships breaking? isn't that a high stake to you?

 

[neorej]

I'm pretty sure Nebula is going to fuck over Thanos and will be the real end boss of the Infinity War anyways



People have come in here before and complained that since nobody died, there's no stakes to the film

Absolutely 0 steaks. There was shawarma though.

 

[icespide]

I'm balling over the lack of steaks

 

[WadiumArcadium]

I wonder if there are any hints of a theme for Spider-man during the airport scene

I doubt it. If only because I don't think it'll be Jackman doing the Spider-Man Homecoming OST. Apart from Bucky's theme and a bit of Cap's, he didn't seem too keen on integrating any of the other character's themes either. Though a lot of the characters have lacked a consistent theme through each film eg. Iron Man

 

[black070]

I doubt it. If only because I don't think it'll be Jackman doing the Spider-Man Homecoming OST. Apart from Bucky's theme and a bit of Cap's, he didn't seem too keen on integrating any of the other character's themes either. Though a lot of the characters have lacked a consistent theme through each film eg. Iron Man

I think I read an interview where Jackman stated he was looking to find a middle ground between The First Avenger & The Winter Soldier OSTs. I was hoping for a continuation on the latter, though I understand why it couldn't be as tense throughout, what with certain comic relief characters involved.

 

[Palette Swap]

I'm pretty sure Nebula is going to fuck over Thanos and will be the real end boss of the Infinity War anyways

Infinity War Part I opening scene : Nebula calls a SHIELD anonymous tips hotline and gives them Thanos, he's then finally revealed as the incompetent jobber he's always been as Red Wing stops him while he's making a helicopter escape.

The two movies are then about Nebula, who won't take 20 movies to find six stones.

 

[Flintty]

The only way to raise stakes is with characters dying?

How about friendships breaking? isn't that a high stake to you?

Yeah we don't need our heroes being killed off to make it enjoyable. Nobody ever asks for James Bond to be killed off. If there's a death it should be because it fits the story, not because people want the 'stakes to be high'.

If nobody died in Ultron I would have been happy. The threat of annihilation and age of robots is big enough.

 

[formasymphonic]

He delivered that with so much spite. Another line like that and it would sound like he was throwing a tantrum.

I hadn't watched the older marvel films in a long time — up until that line I had completely forgotten that Cap's shield was something he had received from Howard Stark. The "you used the shield my father gave you to protect the guy who killed him" subtext was perfectly captured. With the way everything in the movie played out, I thought RDJ nailed the delivery.

Man they really could've fucked this up SO HARD

Captain America is a goddamn liar
Iron Man LOSING a fight in pretty destructive fashion

Not to mention Steve's "nah, I'm good, we don't need oversight" comes off as disingenuously selfish when his first reason to go against world governments is to save his best friend from 70 years ago, never letting any judiciary system or due process get in his way.

It makes sense for the character and I find this still makes Steve a loveable character, but it's a far cry from that dumb comic book where they the shit out of each other for vague ideas, and Tony being Orwellian as shit.

I have to admit that before the film, I had absolutely no interest in the whole #TeamCap / #TeamIronMan marketing nonsense. But after actually seeing it and how everything played out, I got both their perspectives but just couldn't agree with where Cap was in this.

I won't debate it (because i'm sure the same circular arguments have gone around the thread), but I'll just say that Cap wasn't really doing himself any PR favours for his case against oversight considering how much damage he was prepared to cause for personal reasons. The safest hands aren't your own when you are as willing to move for your own agenda as anyone else is for theirs.

I went in not fussed, came out of it #TeamIronMan.

 

[Sadist]

RDJ does great work too. Felt like he was phoning in in a bit for the last Avengers film, but he really sells the emotional scenes in this one.

Dat Russo bros. upgrade.

Watched The First Avenger a couple days ago and it really does seem like he's transported rather than killed. Of course, that leads him into space, where he's sure to die, but who knows, perhaps it went to the location of the staff, therefore Thanos, and he's potentially alive?

Yeah it wouldn't surprise me if Skull is still alive. On the other hand if he survived, he must be like 100 + years old.

Btw I don't think Thanos will have much of a possy when Infinity Wars comes around. They could have someone like Skull around as some surprise returning villain, but I really hope they'll concentrate on just Thanos. I've seen the idea floating around online, but I think the Black Order for example would be too much.

Btw, do we know when Thanos will appear again? Thor Raqnarock? Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2?

 

[inky]

The soundtrack's grown on me after a few listens but it's still pretty forgettable. I do like the Civil War track though. It was good in the airport scene but there's so much shit going on then, it got overshadowed.

I was trying to pay attention to it during the movie because I heard it wasn't good, but it was just drowned by everything happening. I noticed it in 2 instances, the chase scene and the airport scene, but it only registered as "epic" music with a lot of wind instruments, nothing memorable beyond that. (I haven't listened to the individual pieces again).

It wasn't a John Williams in Minority Report case at least (whether one finds it 'memorable' in a JW way, or distracting and completely out of place like I did), just unremarkable. Bit of a shame as I was hoping for another "Taking a Stand" quality tune that becomes the theme of the movie you know.

 

[icespide]

they gave themselves an opening with Red Skull returning in Captain America: The Force Awakens but we'll probably never get him back because Hugo Weaving hated playing him and dealing with the make up

 

[Broken Joystick]

Btw, do we know when Thanos will appear again? Thor Raqnarock? Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2?

Can't remember if there's been any rumours but since Thor: Ragnarok is supposed to be the "Oh shit" moment of Phase 3, much like Winter Soldier was for Phase 2, I wouldn't be suprised to see him in Ragnarok.

they gave themselves an opening with Red Skull returning in Captain America: The Force Awakens but we'll probably never get him back because Hugo Weaving hated playing him and dealing with the make up

To be honest they could get away with a different actor, especially is he is alive and been in space for 70 something years.