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Captain Picard of Admiral Adama?

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ultron87 said:
Better question: The Beard?

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or the Eyepatch?

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The correct answer is both.

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anyone have a BSG clip they really like that'll get a newbie to start watching the show? I'm trying to get my friend to watch and he won't, even though he totallly eats up most sci fi stuff.
 
Hari Seldon said:
He is alright but does not have any significant accomplishments to be in the same class as Kurk, Picard, and Adama.

Did you not see the movie?

You know, the part where he got the entrire Reaver fleet to follow him to the entire Alliance fleet? And then made them all shoot each other!

Then he played a youtube video and undermined a galaxy spanning government ...

And he won over Inara.
 
w1ndst0rm said:
Did you not see the movie?

You know, the part where he got the entrire Reaver fleet to follow him to the entire Alliance fleet? And then made them all shoot each other!

Then he played a youtube video and undermined a galaxy spanning government ...

And he won over Inara.

Lol I forgot about the movie.
 
Flavius said:
Picard by a mile, but since this badass rescued Picard from the Cardassians...

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It's Edward Jellico, bitches!

What about Locke? At least he was an Admiral.... before he was court-martialled.

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There was also Dr. Kelso as a scientist who nearly had his life's work fucked up by Wesley.
 
w1ndst0rm said:
Did you not see the movie?

You know, the part where he got the entrire Reaver fleet to follow him to the entire Alliance fleet? And then made them all shoot each other!

Then he played a youtube video and undermined a galaxy spanning government ...

And he won over Inara.

Except the government he toppled spanned only a single system.

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Even Picard could do that every other week.
 
B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
Good list but you missed You missed John Crichton/Ka D'Argo and Sheridan.

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Hell yeah motherfuckers. He created a wormhole, a god damned wormhole. Hell that shit wasn't even a wormhole now that I think about it. It was a Black Hole.

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samus i am said:
As someone else said:

In times of war: Adama
In times of Peace: Picard
And I disagree. We saw what kind of military tactician Picard was. Look how he was during the Klingon Civil War (and that was a war the federation wasn't even technically involved in). It was Picard who came up with the idea for the tachyon detection grid. Or as already stated, He came up with the Picard Maneuver which became required reading at the academy. Not to mention all the numerous times he bested the romulans.

edit: Almost forgot about Alternate timeline Picard from "Yesterday's Enterprise"
 
Henchmen21 said:
And I disagree. We saw what kind of military tactician Picard was. Look how he was during the Klingon Civil War (and that was a war the federation wasn't even technically involved in). It was Picard who came up with the idea for the tachyon detection grid. Or as already stated, He came up with the Picard Maneuver which became required reading at the academy. Not to mention all the numerous times he bested the romulans.


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Henchmen21 said:
And I disagree. We saw what kind of military tactician Picard was. Look how he was during the Klingon Civil War (and that was a war the federation wasn't even technically involved in). It was Picard who came up with the idea for the tachyon detection grid. Or as already stated, He came up with the Picard Maneuver which became required reading at the academy. Not to mention all the numerous times he bested the romulans.

edit: Almost forgot about Alternate timeline Picard from "Yesterday's Enterprise"
I'm pretty sure there would've been a class taught about how to defend a civilian fleet with just one retired ship too if the academy on Caprica hadn't been surprise-nuked.

Picard would've folded in the first episode.
 
whytemyke said:
anyone have a BSG clip they really like that'll get a newbie to start watching the show? I'm trying to get my friend to watch and he won't, even though he totallly eats up most sci fi stuff.

Gently spoilerific, but only indirectly

Can't find the scene, but this shot of adama walking down the hallway from season 4x11 is one of the my all-time favorites on a tv show:

http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2009/01/16/battlestar-galactica-frak-earth/
 
whytemyke said:
anyone have a BSG clip they really like that'll get a newbie to start watching the show? I'm trying to get my friend to watch and he won't, even though he totallly eats up most sci fi stuff.


I'd just tell him to load up netflix and watch the Miniseries on the season 2 set.
 
sturmdogg said:
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Sorry, my captain is way cooler than yours.

He is cool, but not in the same league as Adama and Picard. NOWHERE near it. He is even behind the fellow below:

Treo360 said:
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Hell yeah motherfuckers. He created a wormhole, a god damned wormhole. Hell that shit wasn't even a wormhole now that I think about it. It was a Black Hole.

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Crichton represent. Black Hole weapon of doom.
 
Treo360 said:
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Hell yeah motherfuckers. He created a wormhole, a god damned wormhole. Hell that shit wasn't even a wormhole now that I think about it. It was a Black Hole.


Yes but can he destroy 3 planets with baking soda and vinegar?

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Threads like this are what message boards were designed for. I love it
 
Picard had it too easy in general.

If you want a better comparison, though still nowhere near close, Sisko and Adama, and Adama would still win.
 
Picard commanded respect.

Adama commanded respect and fear. I would be more afraid of pissing off or disappointing Adama than I would be of Picard. That is if Tigh let you get near the old man.
 
DY_nasty said:
Picard would've folded in the first episode.
What makes you think that there is not much background to it but people forget Picard was Captain of a the Stargazer and quoted as seeing action during the Cardassian wars.

PhoncipleBone said:
Adama commanded respect and fear. I would be more afraid of pissing off or disappointing Adama than I would be of Picard. That is if Tigh let you get near the old man.
Yeah they feared Adama so much, more than half his crew committed mutiny
 
Ducarmel said:
What makes you think that there is not much background to it but people forget Picard was Captain of a the Stargazer and quoted as seeing action during the Cardassian wars.
33 would've destroyed Picard as he wouldn't have had time to sip his tea between Cylon attacks.
Yeah they feared Adama so much more than half his crew committed mutiny
Only after Adama decided to take in a Cylon ship and had some of most important people spread throughout the fleet.

Pretty sure he and Tigh went 2 on 40 before the end of that mess too.
 
It's easy for Picard to look classy and great when he has this super advanced ship, near unlimited resources and the backing of the strongest government in the Galaxy behind him.

Adama had sweet fuck all to work with and still saved his species.
 
Sinatar said:
It's easy for Picard to look classy and great when he has this super advanced ship, near unlimited resources and the backing of the strongest government in the Galaxy behind him.

Adama had sweet fuck all to work with and still saved his species.


See it's arguments like that that make Janeway look good.
 
DY_nasty said:
Only after Adama decided to take in a Cylon ship and had some of most important people spread throughout the fleet.
How is that even an excuse. He lost the respect and trust of his crew no if and or but about it which was the point of the argument that people respect and fear Adama.

Sinatar said:
It's easy for Picard to look classy and great when he has this super advanced ship, near unlimited resources and the backing of the strongest government in the Galaxy behind him.
Well then Admiral Janeway should have Adama running then she survived all alone for 7 years with her crew in the delta quadrant pawning the Borg, Species 8472 and all the other baddies of the week.
 
Ducarmel said:
How is that even an excuse. He lost the respect and trust of his crew no if and or but about it.
Picard can only be an effective commander when he's loved by his docile crew.

Adama had to command degenerates who'd already seen everything that they've known burned around them. The fact that it took years for a mutiny to happen is just a testament to his leadership.
 
Pretty easy to keep your crew fed and ship running when you can replicate anything you need. The Voyager was a top of the line ship that could keep itself running pretty much indefinitely.
 
Sinatar said:
It's easy for Picard to look classy and great when he has this super advanced ship, near unlimited resources and the backing of the strongest government in the Galaxy behind him.

Adama had sweet fuck all to work with and still saved his species.
Debatable. It took the combined forces of the Federation, the Klingon, and the Romulans to beat the Dominion back into the Gamma Quadrant.
 
Dax01 said:
Debatable. It took the combined forces of the Federation, the Klingon, and the Romulans to beat the Dominion back into the Gamma Quadrant.

Well during Picards run on TNG the Federation were the big boys on the block.
 
DY_nasty said:
Picard can only be an effective commander when he's loved by his docile crew.

Adama had to command degenerates who'd already seen everything that they've known burned around them. The fact that it took years for a mutiny to happen is just a testament to his leadership.
What hyperbole they were still officers and soldiers trained for this and trained to respect the COC during these types of situations (assuming they did train for high stress situations in whatever military school they went too). But I will give you the point considering the situation.

During the alternate timeline Picard still had his crew under control during war even during fight they clearly were not going to win in Yesterday's Enterprise. Also it was clearly shown Picard was a hard man during that war with the Klingons.

Sinatar said:
Pretty easy to keep your crew fed and ship running when you can replicate anything you need. The Voyager was a top of the line ship that could keep itself running pretty much indefinitely.
Replicators still use energy, we have seen through out the show they had to ration energy plenty of times.
 
Sinatar said:
Pretty easy to keep your crew fed and ship running when you can replicate anything you need. The Voyager was a top of the line ship that could keep itself running pretty much indefinitely.


Voyager had to ration power and food/replicator use. Why do you think Neelix had to cook.
 
DrForester said:
Yes but can he destroy 3 planets with baking soda and vinegar?

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You know what? As fate would have it, I've been streaming Farscape on Netflix the last couple of weeks, and not only can John create Black Holes, but the man can jump ship in space to his shuttle and not die.
 
Ducarmel said:
Replicators still use energy, we have seen through out the show they had to ration energy plenty of times.

Voyager (and all Starfleet vessels) get energy through their ram scoop thingy. They certainly never had to launch a creative and suicidal invasion against a Cylon mining station to get the resources needed to fuel their FTL drives. Not to mention getting food and water.

DrForester said:
Voyager had to ration power and food/replicator use. Why do you think Neelix had to cook.

Because it gave them a reason to keep that stupid character on the show.
 
Sinatar said:
Voyager (and all Starfleet vessels) get energy through their ram scoop thingy. They certainly never had to launch a creative and suicidal invasion against a Cylon mining station to get the resources needed to fuel their FTL drives. Not to mention getting food and water.


See "Year of Hell".
 
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