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[sphagnum]

People in here worried about what will happen in the US with the coming of automation need to put themselves in the shoes of a laborer living in China or South Asia. They're screwed just as much if not more than Americans will be.

There's a lot of labor unrest in China that goes under reported, and there's at least still some residual influence from Marxism. They have more of a cultural framework to accept a transition to a collectivized form of automation than the US does, which can't even admit that anything outside of capitalism can be feasible.

 

[User 479360]

Less people making money = bad

Robots and custom orders could also be a mess.

 

[KissVibes]

I've been saying for years that automation must finally be outlawed to secure the survival of our economy and ultimately, the human race. It'll start with the hamburgers, then it'll be building houses, then collecting trash, then policing, and then we'll be killing each-other and nuking everyone in a nightmare Mad Max scenario. Going forward, I will only vote for those that are anti-automation.

 

[Tesseract]

I've been saying for years that automation must finally be outlawed to secure the survival of our economy and ultimately, the human race. It'll start with the hamburgers, then it'll be building houses, then collecting trash, then policing, and then we'll be killing each-other and nuking everyone in a nightmare Mad Max scenario. Going forward, I will only vote for those that are anti-automation.

Haha

 

[Foffy]

I've been saying for years that automation must finally be outlawed to secure the survival of our economy and ultimately, the human race. It'll start with the hamburgers, then it'll be building houses, then collecting trash, then policing, and then we'll be killing each-other and nuking everyone in a nightmare Mad Max scenario. Going forward, I will only vote for those that are anti-automation.

Talk about living in a bubble and sustaining an already insoluble status quo.

At least automation forces us to have accountable social values for the people in society. It's either that or dissolution.

 

[Ryaaan14]

If we start slowly removing human interaction then what's gonna happen to all those awesome GAF threads where something happens to someone and they don't know what to do or think?

 

[impact]

So actively get rid of jobs, drive up unemployment, and profit in the long run while continuing to serve shitty food.

Sounds like a greedy ass American CEO.

Hardee's is S tier fast food

 

[Tesseract]

This is great news, looking forward to more automation in the pipe

Exciting time

 

[TAJ]

If we get rid of minimum wage, we can create infinite jobs!

Prisoners aren't allowed to make more than $5 per day. Get all of your employees locked up. Profit. Even better you can get into the prison business yourself and get paid by the government to keep them in prison.
Wouldn't work for fast food except for vertical integration, though.

 

[213372bu]

If we start slowly removing human interaction then what's gonna happen to all those awesome GAF threads where something happens to someone and they don't know what to do or think?

"GAF I'm pretty sure my waitress-bot is a re-purposed version of my old sex-bot."

 

[Tesseract]

I've been preparing for this dankivity my whole life

 

[Nikodemos]

The more things change, eh?


The Automat shall live again!

 

[A Link to the Past]

Automation is coming regardless of the paltry raises we give to the wage floor

Yep. Any CEO talking about automation being a defensive maneuver is a bald-faced liar. Their goals are to lower wages and cut jobs.

 

[LegendofJoe]

There's a lot of labor unrest in China that goes under reported, and there's at least still some residual influence from Marxism. They have more of a cultural framework to accept a transition to a collectivized form of automation than the US does, which can't even admit that anything outside of capitalism can be feasible.

This is very true, the outlook for the US is not good at all.

Edit: We're seeing the early stages of the effects with the rise of Trump and Sanders. I fervently hope the viewpoint of the latter prevails, otherwise the rest of the world is in big trouble. A fascist in power with the world's post powerful military at their disposal is not a cheery thought.

 

[7DollarHagane]

The market will determine what succeeds. If the automated option for low quality food or basic goods and necessities beats what is already a mediocre to bad customer service experience with real humans, so be it.

I don't think this kind of thing should be held back. There will still be some people present to maintain and monitor the equipment, stock product and ingredients, and handle cash, but I really don't need to interact with a person when i'm getting fast food or when I run out for some toilet paper and coffee filters. sorry.

Plus I think if anything the lowest price tier of fast food will probably get a little better and for people who don't want the automat experience slightly higher tier places like Jimmy Johns, Qdoba, Subway, Quiznos,Papa Murphy's etc. will probably still provide in person options, but also will be higher priced or more customized.

 

[blame space]

what a piece of shit

 

[nded]

Oh, so they're trying to bring back automats.

 

[The Llama]

tbh I see his point about Millenials not wanting to deal with people. Look at the proliferation of online food ordering instead of calling, for example.

 

[Koppai]

This CEO runs on some weird logic.

CEO is greedy, news at 11. :/

I seriously can't fucking stand this. Pay people, don't do self checkout and keep people with jobs. Companies post huge profits every year.

Hell yeah, I basically just asked for a raise for the first time ever at my job and going to discuss it with my boss tomorrow.

 

[Reptars Revenge]

replace rhonda rousey and evander holyfield in their commercials with a robot and lets start from there

 

[Manifest Destiny]

I will never shop at a place that is fully automated.

 

[Andodalf]

Someone needs to tell this guy that saying something out loud doesn't make it true. I have never in my life seen people wait in line for a kiosk when a living breathing customer service agent is available. Not anywhere.

I have done this at walmart. Am millennial

 

[KorrZ]

I feel for the people losing their jobs but ultimately I'm all for more automation.

 

[RomanticHeroX]

The CEO of Hardee's is a piece of shit? Cool, that makes it all the easier to stop going there. Hardee's has been garbage for years.

 

[Rushersauce]

We don't not want socialism - the American people have spoken on that as well.

So, you want socialism?

 

[SmackAttack]

"Does it really help if Sally makes $3 more an hour if Suzie has no job?"

What? I'm failing to see the point here. Suzie has no job (much like me right now) and Sally can't make an extra $3 and hour because of that?

 

[MrCunningham]

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

Carl's Jr. - Fuck You, I'm Eating.

 

[KevinCow]

Okay, I can understand the desire to turn to automation. I can see a lot of the benefits. It just makes sense from a business point of view.

But don't you dare turn around and blame the fact that you're getting rid of jobs on THE EVIL LIBERALS!!! for wanting to increase the minimum wage so that the poorest people in our country can actually make a living. You know damn well that you were going to turn to automation eventually, regardless of any minimum wage increases.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

hey, carls jr

you know what is an AMAZING way to keep jobs, grow MORE jobs, and appeal to millennials that don't like interacting with people?

add online orders with delivery. fucking BOOM.

look at how well it worked for papa and his papa johns pizza new worldwide pizza website

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

nothing is more appetizing than a meal prepared and served by robots

 

[LegendofJoe]

hey, carls jr

you know what is an AMAZING way to keep jobs, grow MORE jobs, and appeal to millennials that don't like interacting with people?

add online orders with delivery. fucking BOOM.

look at how well it worked for papa and his papa johns pizza new worldwide pizza website

Drone delivered food is definitely happening

 

[sphagnum]

I will never shop at a place that is fully automated.

You won't. But your child will.

 

[TickleMeElbow]

I feel like if automation takes over, the lower class will live in bigass slums run by their own economy, and the upper class will live in walled off technologically advanced cities enjoying all the automation.

It'll be like that Elysium movie.

 

[Transhuman]

People acting surprised this is happening is confusing given that it's been an inevitability since the invention of the automated production line or the vending machine.

 

[WolfeTone]

You won't. But your child will.

Depends on how old the poster is. I'd argue that full-automated stores/restaurants will be the norm in the next 20 years. That being said he/she may have a choice between a fully-automated store and a mom and pop type store run by hippies (or the future equivalent of hippies) that stay in business by charging ridiculously high prices for things but that some folks will argue are more authentic.

Bring on the robots I say, but I can just imagine people 20 years from now saying things like: "My double cheese burger just tastes better when it's made by a human and contains 100% organic ingredients. I don't trust those robot arms to make a decent burger and not contaminate my food".

 

[Hexa]

Hopefully this comes sooner rather than later.

 

[aeolist]

as if automation wouldn't be progressing if minimum wage weren't going up

just because you're rich doesn't make the rest of us stupid, dude

 

[WolfeTone]

I feel like if automation takes over, the lower class will live in bigass slums run by their own economy, and the upper class will live in walled off technologically advanced cities enjoying all the automation.

It'll be like that Elysium movie.

This is exactly what'll happen if the current economic model continues into the future. However, provided democracy remains a thing, as more people are disenfranchised and impoverished by automation, governments promising to implement basic guaranteed income will be elected. The level of extreme wealth and income inequality that can result from automation simply cannot be sustained without drastic political changes or violent revolutions. Let's hope it's the former that comes to pass.

 

[Abstrusity]

Depends on how old the poster is. I'd argue that full-automated stores/restaurants will be the norm in the next 20 years. That being said he/she may have a choice between a fully-automated store and a mom and pop type store run by hippies (or the future equivalent of hippies) that stay in business by charging ridiculously high prices for things but that some folks will argue are more authentic.

Bring on the robots I say, but I can just imagine people 20 years from now saying things like: "My double cheese burger just tastes better when it's made by a human and contains 100% organic ingredients. I don't trust those robot arms to make a decent burger and not contaminate my food".

Well, to be fair, inadequate cleaning policies can be breeding grounds for bacteria. So they might have someone cleaning the machine, or changing liners out, or at least refilling liners for the automated process to switch them out anyway. All told, up front cost, coupled with capital depreciate and any inflation would already make automation prohibitively expensive, especially for relatively niche products that mainly serve lower middle class and lower people...especially considering that losing those jobs would drop demand further.

Of course, you could get a job making minimum wage changing out liners on the machine if it doesn't do it itself...

 

[Little Green Yoda]

How much will I have to tip my roboserver, GAF?

 

[whytemyke]

How much will I have to tip my roboserver, GAF?

You don't if your charisma is high enough to pass their speech checks

 

[Count Dookkake]

AutoMac.

 

[Tesseract]

the daily ear drowning drone of everyone's automeal flights swarming around the globe like globules of bees no my eyes the bbq arrghhh

 

[andythinkpad]

200 million+ complex/interesting jobs at all education levels?

In my utopian future, most non-creative people don't work. They just sit on their asses all day a la Wall.E

Developed countries will have these.

America, though? Ehhhhhh...

See socialism welfare is doable if all major countries get on the bandwagon. If one countries refuse to do that keep making the population work 40-50 hours per week, then geopolitic competition will pressure the rest of the first tier countries go back to long working hours.

the world doesn't need 9 billion poets.

We just need automation to harness nuclear fusion energy and use the energy to grow food in lab then we can free up a lot of man hour.

 

[LegendofJoe]

This is exactly what'll happen if the current economic model continues into the future. However, provided democracy remains a thing, as more people are disenfranchised and impoverished by automation, governments promising to implement basic guaranteed income will be elected. The level of extreme wealth and income inequality that can result from automation simply cannot be sustained without drastic political changes or violent revolutions. Let's hope it's the former that comes to pass.

Agreed, all of us need to do what we can to avoid the latter.

 

[sphagnum]

See socialism welfare is doable if all major countries get on the bandwagon. If one countries refuse to do that keep making the population work 40-50 hours per week, then geopolitic competition will pressure the rest of the first tier countries go back to long working hours

So what you're saying is

we need world revolution.

:lenincry:

 

[andythinkpad]

I've been saying for years that automation must finally be outlawed to secure the survival of our economy and ultimately, the human race. It'll start with the hamburgers, then it'll be building houses, then collecting trash, then policing, and then we'll be killing each-other and nuking everyone in a nightmare Mad Max scenario. Going forward, I will only vote for those that are anti-automation.

We can't do that. Because countries that embrace automation will beat you in the world market.

 

[andythinkpad]

So what you're saying is

we need world revolution.

:lenincry:

We need Earth Federation under a single labor regulation.

Also, three laws of Robotics

 

[WolfeTone]

Well, to be fair, inadequate cleaning policies can be breeding grounds for bacteria. So they might have someone cleaning the machine, or changing liners out, or at least refilling liners for the automated process to switch them out anyway. All told, up front cost, coupled with capital depreciate and any inflation would already make automation prohibitively expensive, especially for relatively niche products that mainly serve lower middle class and lower people...especially considering that losing those jobs would drop demand further.

Of course, you could get a job making minimum wage changing out liners on the machine if it doesn't do it itself...

Agreed. At the moment automation is greatly held back by not only limitations of the tech, but also the prohibitively high cost. Limitations of tech mean that most automation we're seeing now is complimenting, not substituting for, existing workers. Grocery stores still have actual staff in addition to self-checkouts.

As the tech matures and entry level costs for automating parts of the workforce fall, this will become far more widespread. Perhaps I spoke too soon when I said that fully-automatized stores will be the norm in 20 years. Let me rephrase that to stores which are 95% automatized will be the norm. Certain tasks might always remain better suited to being performed by humans when cost is factored in.

 

[TickleMeElbow]

This is exactly what'll happen if the current economic model continues into the future. However, provided democracy remains a thing, as more people are disenfranchised and impoverished by automation, governments promising to implement basic guaranteed income will be elected. The level of extreme wealth and income inequality that can result from automation simply cannot be sustained without drastic political changes or violent revolutions. Let's hope it's the former that comes to pass.

Yeah hopefully.