DenogginizerOS
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Carmack - 360 to be primary development platform
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FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
Carmack doesn't matter. More ANIMU!
HomerSimpson-Man
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SnakeXs said:
You called?
Lukkas made me do it.
Damn, that old man seems to stand up to everything! :lol
Willy Wanka
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phonte said:
The Doom 3 engine and the way it handled shadowing and lighting. I'm sure his next engine will do something equally impressive.
Doom_Bringer
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Cpl_Cain said:
The final development kits haven't been shipped yet. The current kits have the 3.2 clocked Cell but lack final RSX and the bandwidth.
Jim said:
It's kind of an unfair gray area. It was said from the beginning that the Doom 3 engine was made with the XBox in mind, and there's even hints in the initial configuration files for the PC game that point to this. Carmack's support for the 360 is pretty significant. Even if id hasn't churned out a really great game in awhile, the technology Carmack himself makes can be of great importance to consoles. I'd say the Doom 3 engine was overall something of a letdown, but bare in mind this guy gave us Quake 3 engine, and no doubt has another great engine in him.
HomerSimpson-Man
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With X360 as a the focus development and a closed system, that likely means they can really know their limits and strenghts better. Instead of having to make something that supports so many different lower common denominators as set-ups they can push X360 as hard as they can and work from there right?
DenogginizerOS
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Willy Wanka said:
Having played Doom3 in its entirety on a high-end PC, I would say that iD certainly knows game engines and how to make them run liquid smooth. Having said that, I would say that having Carmack digging into the X360 and pulling out as much power as he can and putting that power into a game engine could be a great benefit to the future of FPS's on the X360. I see this news as encouraging.
krypt0nian
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I'm alwys so glad when the newest wave of junior members hits.
They are so well balanced and informative.
They are so well balanced and informative.
Doom_Bringer
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ManaByte said:
Id and Ravensoftware are making Wolfenstein. They even showed some artwork and early cut scenes at X05. I have the friggin video on my hard drive!! Carmack is working only working on two games at the moment: Quake Wars and Wolfenstein!
phonte said:
Carmack is a programming genius, if he says something is good at doing something then it sure as hell is going to be. All that bullshit about Kutaragi being visionary enough to see the future was polygons would have been for nothing without Carmack's pioneering techniques and raw abilities. Without his engines we wouldn't HAVE a Half-Life series.
If he can do all that with the moving goalposts that the PC industry has then imagine what he could do with a fixed architecture that he can explore and exploit at will.
Carmack's decision is meaningless anyway(to me, at least). When has he ever developed for a console?Jerkface said:
Who is denying or downplaying his impact? Only a fool would do that.
That said, he hasn't done anything earthshattering recently. Mass hysteria of iD titles died down, D3 engine was (compared to Q3) a flop, and as a game developer he hasn't blown anybody away in a while.
Willy Wanka
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DenogginizerOS said:
I think it's encouraging too and I look forward to seeing the fruits of his labours.
SnakeXs said:
You just named 3 games that will also be on PC and superior on PC.
Super high end rig huh ? The PC I took those shots on cost me exactly 1,130 dollars. How much do you have to pay for a decent HDTV again just to even be able to tell if youre playing your Xbox 1 or 360 ?
ok...now I'm just going to ask a question here...what have these 2 delivered in the past couple of years? One of them is just a figurehead (who detaches himself from underperforming projects) and the other...well...honestly...who the hell is the other guy and what has he done lately?phonte said:
No offense but you're a total genius. Carmack's word doesn't hold weight? What are you? Some sort of Eastern fantasizer? Western devs are still important regardless of what you feel about them...in fact, I'd say they have rising in importance steadily since the start of last gen. Carmack is still one of the top tech devs and his open and unbias opinions DO hold weight. Maybe not to a bunch of obese message board hogging oticunts, but such is life.phonte said:
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Who the hell opened the doors?
SolidSnakex
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Wakune said:
The guy responsible for one of hte biggest box office flops of all time. He also created FF but hasn't actually directed a game in the series in over 10 years.
Doom_Bringer
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Cpl_Cain said:
PSM is full of BS.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Lukkas said:Fuckin old man, die already
Never!!! 1999 tech at 300 Mhz and 38 MB total of ram for that level. What do I have to have to get your's?!!
Jerkface said:
umm, again, carmack has absolutely no experience with either the 360 or the ps3. it's all conjecutre, at this point, so why should his opinion carry more weight than any other developer?
what he's done in the past, on pcs, matters little when it comes to what he wants to do on the 360/ps3.
carmack's opinion is a minority one, and it's apparent, from past interviews, that it's more the result of being leery of tackling the ps3 than it is thinking the 360 is a more capable system.
Doom_Bringer
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TigerKnee said:
Half Life 2 high res texture pack.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Lukkas said:
Goddamn!!
BunnyLifeguard
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Lukkas said:
The next to last post in these comments sums it up really well.
http://www.xboxyde.com/news_2520_en.html
If you ask me, even today there is no huge "generation-leap" between XBox 1 and the average PC.
MattKeil said:
How ? Just looking fact wise at the differences PC version has over 360 version.
higher resolution
up to 8x AA if you wish (360 limited to 2x)
up to 16xAF (360 using NO AF at all)
All the texture settings and normal map settings can be set to "extra" (360 limited to high)
Thats all I can think off at the top of my head. Either way the game looks like shit compared to other FPS titles.
Lukkas said:
come on, that's being a bit unfair.
while i'll admit that cod2 isn't really that impressive, if you've been able to enjoy a first person shooter on the pc in the past couple of years (hl2, bf2, fear, etc.), it certainly doesn't look like shit compared to them.
it just looks like pretty much every other 360 title -- a minor leap from present gen gfx.
Lukkas said:
1) You even said the framerate's different, and with those settings it'd be drastic.
2) You're still wrong.
3) Keep trying, please, it's really funny.
4) Let's make a deal. When those 3 titles come out, let's each make movies of each game. The catch? You gotta display your FPS. Console FPS will be well documented. So, we'll see how, in real time, each version looks and runs. You up to it? We'll see how your $1130 hardware fairs.