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[jshackles]

It's been nearly a year since I pre-ordered (and paid for!) the physical Switch version... still nothing. Their site still says "pre-order".

Their production schedule page still says "In Progress" and the expected release is "Q3 2023" - but literally everything on that page say "Q3 2023"

Release Progress

Product Code Title Product Design Production Approx. Release FPNS-004A/B Rival Megagun Nintendo Switch Collector's Edition Finished In Assembly Q1 2024 FPP4-001A/B Rival Megagun PlayStation 4 Collector's Edition Finished In Assembly Q1 2024 FPNS-005A/B Mulaka Nintendo Switch Collector's Edition...

firstpressgames.com

Starting to feel like I got suckered

 

[bigedole]

Was a really fun game. Hope you get your money back if you don't get the release.

 

[TexMex]

It's been nearly a year since I pre-ordered (and paid for!) the physical Switch version... still nothing. Their site still says "pre-order".

Their production schedule page still says "In Progress" and the expected release is "Q3 2023" - but literally everything on that page say "Q3 2023"

Release Progress

Product Code Title Product Design Production Approx. Release FPNS-004A/B Rival Megagun Nintendo Switch Collector's Edition Finished In Assembly Q1 2024 FPP4-001A/B Rival Megagun PlayStation 4 Collector's Edition Finished In Assembly Q1 2024 FPNS-005A/B Mulaka Nintendo Switch Collector's Edition...

firstpressgames.com

Starting to feel like I got suckered

These boutique physical release outlets are just insanely poorly managed. Shit takes forever. People wait literal years sometimes from LRG for example, and there's no acceptable production woes to account for that, it's just incompetence.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Completed it. 90 hours.

Well, my interest in the game has vaporized. Why do developers act as though we spend our lives only playing their single game.

edit: The official website claims “30 - 40 hours of play time”, so I’ll just assume Fuz is an outlier.

 

[Interfectum]

Well, my interest in the game has vaporized. Why do developers act as though we spend our lives only playing their single game.

It doesn't take 90 hours to beat the game.

Also, this is the best 'JRPG' to come out in years, well worth the time.

 

[Zheph]

Well, my interest in the game has vaporized. Why do developers act as though we spend our lives only playing their single game.

30/35h is fine for it if you don't want to do 100%

 

[Fools idol]

It's been nearly a year since I pre-ordered (and paid for!) the physical Switch version... still nothing. Their site still says "pre-order".

Their production schedule page still says "In Progress" and the expected release is "Q3 2023" - but literally everything on that page say "Q3 2023"

Release Progress

Product Code Title Product Design Production Approx. Release FPNS-004A/B Rival Megagun Nintendo Switch Collector's Edition Finished In Assembly Q1 2024 FPP4-001A/B Rival Megagun PlayStation 4 Collector's Edition Finished In Assembly Q1 2024 FPNS-005A/B Mulaka Nintendo Switch Collector's Edition...

firstpressgames.com

Starting to feel like I got suckered

cancelled mine, dont think it is ever coming. I had to chargeback through my CC company lol.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

30/35h is fine for it if you don't want to do 100%

The dude that posted the 90 hour comment said he didn’t 100%.

 

[Interfectum]

The dude that posted the 90 hour comment said he didn’t 100%.

I beat the game in ~35 hours and I took my time. Not sure what he was doing for 90 hours.

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[Shake Your Rump]

It doesn't take 90 hours to beat the game.

Also, this is the best 'JRPG' to come out in years, well worth the time.

Alright, I’ll keep Chained Echoes on my wish list, but it is now farther down.

 

[Interfectum]

Alright, I’ll keep Chained Echoes on my wish list, but it is now farther down.

Play Sea of Stars first because Chained Echoes is better. You'll enjoy this one more without having to make the comparison.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

I beat the game in ~35 hours and I took my time.

Fuz said “How the hell some of you guys completed it in 40? Did you just burn through the main quest ignoring everything else?”

Who is telling the truth here?

(I see he is now banned)

 

[Interfectum]

Fuz said “How the hell some of you guys completed it in 40? Did you just burn through the main quest ignoring everything else?”

Who is telling the truth here?

(I see he is now banned)

I am.

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[Zheph]

The dude that posted the 90 hour comment said he didn’t 100%.

There is a lot you can do but I think it is doable in 60/70h but maybe he enjoyed it so much he kept playing

Sea of Stars is around 30h too btw
Just my opinion but Chained Echoes > Sea of Stars (I completed both almost 100%)

 

[Shake Your Rump]

I am about 10 hours into Sea of Stars.

I see the official website claims “30 - 40 hours of play time”, so I’ll go with that. Thanks for all the insight!

 

[German Hops]

cancelled mine, dont think it is ever coming. I had to chargeback through my CC company lol.

Wow, I was planning to pick up the physical edition later, so it looks like I'll have to go the eBay route.

 

[Duchess]

Chained Echoes was such a breath of fresh air. Some random difficulty spikes, but otherwise I absolutely loved the game.

I see the official website claims “30 - 40 hours of play time”, so I’ll go with that. Thanks for all the insight!

Easy Allies suggested Sea of Stars was 40 hours in their review, too.

 

[jorgejjvr]

Play Sea of Stars first because Chained Echoes is better. You'll enjoy this one more without having to make the comparison.

No way chained echoes is better, sea of stars is a masterpiece

 

[StereoVsn]

I beat the game in ~35 hours and I took my time. Not sure what he was doing for 90 hours.

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Yeah, 30-40 hours sounds about right. I think I was around 35 as well.

Not sure what the heck do you do in the game for 90 hours.

And I liked it better vs Sea of Stars. Latter is good, but attack variety is very much lacking.

 

[amigastar]

I would love to try it out but my backcatalogue is big as it is (finish BG3, Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077 etc.)

 

[Fbh]

I'm almost done with Sea of Stars and I agree with others here that Chained Echoes is better.
Better story and characters, better combat, better world design and better side content. Sea of Stars has arguably better visuals , better music and IMO the actual dungeons are better too.

It's still crazy to me that Chained Echoes was primarily done by 1 dude. I hope someone with money took notice and offered him a nice deal to work on a sequel or new IP.

 

[Interfectum]

No way chained echoes is better, sea of stars is a masterpiece

Sea of Stars is great but it doesn't touch Chained Echoes imo. The only thing Sea of Stars has on it is production value. Give the guy who made CH a budget and a team... boy oh boy.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

No way chained echoes is better, sea of stars is a masterpiece

Sea of Stars is amateurish at its best. It’s very obvious how budget and lack of experience reined in the enthusiasm of the devs. Nothing in the game is better than what you’d find in most run-of-the-mill JRPGs from the 90s.
The difficulty in Chained Echoes is oddly balanced and prevented me from enjoying the game as I would have liked. Overall though, the game is so much better than SoS that it’s not a contest.

 

[TexMex]

I liked Chained Echoes, but Sea of Stars is better in every way and it isn't even close.

 

[Zheph]

I liked Chained Echoes, but Sea of Stars is better in every way and it isn't even close.

in every way, really?

 

[Shifty1897]

According to my Switch, I played Chained Echoes for 65 hours. I 100%'ed it, it was great. Definitely the best indie JRPG style game I've ever played.

Can't wait to play Sea of Stars and compare them.

 

[Yumi]

Damn, now I have to finish Sea of Stars. Loved Chained echoes beginning to end. Bounced off Sea of Stars after only 3 hours.

 

[Zheph]

Damn, now I have to finish Sea of Stars. Loved Chained echoes beginning to end. Bounced off Sea of Stars after only 3 hours.

The story gets much better at midpoint imo and I enjoyed the mini game in SoS but I can understand I was close to drop it too

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Overall though, the game is so much better than SoS that it’s not a contest.

I liked Chained Echoes, but Sea of Stars is better in every way and it isn't even close.

Sometimes I think you guys do this shit intentionally.

 

[Roberts]

I have a feeling it will leave Game Pass at the end of the year so I jumped into it mostly because of good impressions here. It took a while to get going but I like it. I'm not very familiar with jrpgs but overdrive mechanic seems fresh. I think the best thing about the game is that it is made by one person and therefor kind of unfiltered and idiosyncratic especially when it comes to all kind of tonal shifts and weird jokey moments.

 

[TheSHEEEP]

Chained Echoes is probably the best jRPG of the classic style (turn based, 2D) I have played in 20 years.
Was hooked from the first minute - while other jRPGs I tried in the last 10 years or so just bored me very quickly.

That said, I haven't played SoS. Yet.