I know! You'd almost think he was a comedian, right?
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Chappelle criticizes Clinton and LGBT activists, defends Trump's sexual assault
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I know! You'd almost think he was a comedian, right?
-Stranger-
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Meh they are just jokes
Jokes ain't immune from criticism.
QuantumZebra
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Right - because racism existed before sexism...?
Fuck off, Dave.
A comedian who decided his "jokes" need to be about the LGBT who are treated like shit enough already.
Hot Coldman
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he got old
Dash_Riprock
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Sadly far too many comedians think it is.
gutter_trash
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Chappelle is being a hypocrite, he loved Bill Clinton and praised him during his bits during the Dubya years.
oh, I get it, Hillary's a woman. That's what it is
DAVE CHAPPELLE: Why Black People Love Bill Clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po2Mkhn3TtQ
oh, I get it, Hillary's a woman. That's what it is
DAVE CHAPPELLE: Why Black People Love Bill Clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po2Mkhn3TtQ
old manatee
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They should not be having that conversation in front of black people. You go ahead and feel something about your rights. But if youre putting sexism and homophobia and transphobia in front of racism, you should be ashamed of yourself."
Which part is the setup and which part is the punchline?
Oppo
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i might be walking the plank here...
I think what Chapelle is alluding to is the fact that non-binary people have not been historically enslaved, on an "institutional" level.
now, you could easily argue that people expressing themselves sexually might get themselves outright killed, at certain points in history, and that would be true.
The point is moot though. the comparison is daft because this isn't a suffer-off.
CassidyIzABeast
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Because it is? What are they gonna do? Send them back to the little comedy club they work their material out at anyway?
Bear Force One
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From this gay activist, come out and actually do something for the community instead of holding up with your increasingly crazy selfishness.
Jokes or not, you're not DOING anything.
Jokes or not, you're not DOING anything.
tearsintherain
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Sounds like me is testing some material before next weeks SNL, be interesting to see what he actually ends up with.
Just saw this and yeah I can understand that pov. Also just so we're clear, I'm not saying people can't call him out, just that in this specific context the ability to do so is a bit hampered. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he eases up in those jokes a bit in the future- at least, I hope that's the case.
That's pretty much what they should be doing.
The problem is that Dave's angle on these subjects doesn't work. If he wants to provide some kind of reasonable meta commentary on present day civil rights activism in his humor, he better keep working on it or else he's just gonna come off like an asshole.
But isn't it a HILARIOUS joke?? Hahahahaha...i'm busting a gut laughing here.
Yeah I agree about not treating these particular quotes as 100℅ fact, I was more speaking to previous things he has been recorded saying. I hope he eases up too, he's incredibly talented, I personally loved his blind white supremacist skit. He just sometimes goes too far (he's even admitted it himself), whether or not he intends to I don't think really matters, he seems to ignore what the meaning of the words/phrases he uses carry and inappropriately uses them in a comedic context that makes fun of the minorities these ideas are used on rather than the bigots that impose them. He really needs an editor or someone to tell him, hey maybe don't say this.
It's hard to tell how serious he's being. I'll be the first to say that some jokes are just worthy of back lash. Hey Chapelle, what if you're a black lesbian woman. This is the sort of thing that fucks up mankind. Everyone's in it for themselves. Just because Chapelle isn't affected by sexism and sexual identity phobias, he doesn't understand why people wouldn't want to fight against it.
There's ballsy jokes that don't hit the mark, crude jokes, dark jokes, and then there's just ignorant jokes. Delivery makes a difference and maybe it sounds better it reads.
There's ballsy jokes that don't hit the mark, crude jokes, dark jokes, and then there's just ignorant jokes. Delivery makes a difference and maybe it sounds better it reads.
the_batman
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you can't take his stand-up comedy THAT serious.
I get what you're saying, what are appropriate types of sex have varied drastically through out history, where as racism has pretty much been white > everything else for centuries. But I don't think that really matters though, because sexuality sure is institutionalised now and has been for over a century. But yeah, I agree, the whole "we have it worse" argument seems kind of frivolous because both racial and sexual forms of oppression are equally worth addressing.
Captainbojanglesiii
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The racism over sexism joke was pretty rough, but the rest of the comments really do just sound like intentionally offensive jokes.
Don't think I would say he's "defending" Trump's comments either because he specifically says they were gross, and again, it's comedy. Plus he voted for Hillary.
I couldn't tell from the article what exactly he thinks about the transgender bathroom situation. I think he's in support of it from the way it's written, but "chick with a dick" makes that sound not the case.
Regardless, people certainly have the right to be turned off from this comedy. If he actually believed it, I'd be disappointed.
Don't think I would say he's "defending" Trump's comments either because he specifically says they were gross, and again, it's comedy. Plus he voted for Hillary.
I couldn't tell from the article what exactly he thinks about the transgender bathroom situation. I think he's in support of it from the way it's written, but "chick with a dick" makes that sound not the case.
Regardless, people certainly have the right to be turned off from this comedy. If he actually believed it, I'd be disappointed.
SolidChamp
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Yep. There's hypocrisy in that. One can't be for equal rights for blacks and then turn around and belittle another marginalized group.
Hidden One
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Illuminati got to that mans.
outunderthestars
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I've seen his stand-up twice, and both times it was mostly made up on aimless babbling and little to no actual humor. I hate to say it, but to me he really seems like he is washed up.
I read this as satirical, please tell me it is
d00d3n
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Absolutely not.
outunderthestars
Banned
Is he legendary? What has he done besides hire great writers for a sketch comedy show and has basically coasted off of those writers for over a decade.
His comedy specials are pretty great.
d00d3n
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He is a fantastic standup comedian irrespective of who contributed to his short lived sketch show.
JasoNsider
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Nobody is immune. In fact, thinking anybody is immune, including ourselves, is what gets us into these kinds of dumb ideological/societal problems to begin with. Chapelle wouldn't be the first idol that totally bombs from grace.
Gentleman Jack
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I'm not sure you have the best grasp of the meaning of the word 'petty.'
Reptars Revenge
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Lol I can't believe you are trying to downplay his contibutions to the show. He was one of the main writers. Also to the people saying he is washed up if his show came back today everybody would watch it. I don't know if it would be good but people would watch it.
wanderingprostheyltite
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I'd say so:
Also ironically the idea he wasn't responsible for the ideas on the show is one of the things that got to him and contributed to his leaving the show. Head writer Neal Brennan said a producer once came up to them on set and motioned towards Brennan saying "here's the brains" and to Chappelle "and the talent". I don't think Dave handled his exit the best and clearly hurt a lot of his relationships in the process, but he was dealing with some shitty network political fuckery he didn't want to be around.
outunderthestars
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I've seen him twice and both shows were among the worst stand up I have ever seen. He charged an absurdly high price and then just rambled for an hour each time, with little to nothing in the way of actual jokes.
I have seen fucking Chris Kattan do a better set.
Forceatowulf
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Some of these comments seem like just jokes.. and others not so much. The nonsense concerning LGBT people in particular seemed more: "This is my real opinion." and not "This is for a laugh."
Bounceounce
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So you had a bad set and now you're trying to deny his chops in the comedic world?
He singularly wrote and performed the best stand-up album of the century and maybe a top-5 album ever?
He's the best living comedian, which is why I'm hoping he's playing to the extreme here and being taken all-together too seriously. It wouldn't be the first time a comedian was being taken seriously when they were inhabiting a persona or being all-together facetious.
Relevant article on the matter
http://www.thewrap.com/dave-chappelle-disgusted-by-report-that-hes-pro-trump/
http://www.thewrap.com/dave-chappelle-disgusted-by-report-that-hes-pro-trump/
gutter_trash
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I love Dave Chappelle as a comic, I love his work, loved his show.
That is Chappele the comedian, love him.
But his political opinions are garbage. He admitted in the past that he doesn't vote.
So he now trying to be "edgey" with his comments of weighing discrimination versus other forms of discrimination without realizing that you can fight all forms of discrimination at the same time.
He wasn't even going to vote anyway. Little does he realize that Weed is going to be on the ballot on some states
That is Chappele the comedian, love him.
But his political opinions are garbage. He admitted in the past that he doesn't vote.
So he now trying to be "edgey" with his comments of weighing discrimination versus other forms of discrimination without realizing that you can fight all forms of discrimination at the same time.
He wasn't even going to vote anyway. Little does he realize that Weed is going to be on the ballot on some states
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