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[Lionel Richie]

No called him for what he is last year before ps5 reveal
He is trash and will never change.
Why dont you go back to his old videos and see what lies this guy was spreading.
And most of them were anti sony and dooms day for sony for years.
His whole channel is about how sony will loose how sony will fail and so on and so on

So how am i a ps5 truther please explain to me .

Its ok to have a fanboy channel but when every upload is about how microsoft destroys sony then what is this if not console war huh?
Why not just report xbox only stuff without pushing this ps5 weak dead etc narritive?

Friend if this was an isolated event I'd might give you the benefit of the doubt, but I've been here long enough to see every person that has reported anything negative on the PS5 or positive about the SEX when compared to the PS5 getting called a lot of shit. At one point, it's impossible not to notice a pattern and occam's razor tells me it's more likely that Sony fans get hysterical about the possibility of the SEX having any sort of advantage than it is that everyone reporting on it is making shit up.

 

[Snake29]

Friend if this was an isolated event I'd might give you the benefit of the doubt, but I've been here long enough to see every person that has reported anything negative on the PS5 or positive about the SEX when compared to the PS5 getting called a lot of shit. At one point, it's impossible not to notice a pattern and occam's razor tells me it's more likely that Sony fans get hysterical about the possibility of the SEX having any sort of advantage than it is that everyone reporting on it is making shit up.

It's the other way around. It looks like all the positive news from devs about the PS5 is shaking up Xfans, and even starting to get a little nervous, insecure and making discord channels, youtube video's to shit on everything. No one is saying the PS5 will have the same raw power, and in the end the difference will be way to small.

You can say what you want about me or whatever, but you can't deny that Next-gen starts with PlayStation and not Xbox. The world is looking at Sony....

 

[Jtibh]

Friend if this was an isolated event I'd might give you the benefit of the doubt, but I've been here long enough to see every person that has reported anything negative on the PS5 or positive about the SEX when compared to the PS5 getting called a lot of shit. At one point, it's impossible not to notice a pattern and occam's razor tells me it's more likely that Sony fans get hysterical about the possibility of the SEX having any sort of advantage than it is that everyone reporting on it is making shit up.

I see it otherwise.

What i see is ever since xbox has the upper hand in specs xbox fans are on a rampage and are out for blood trying to make up for this gens loss.

I see xbox fans putting a lot of effort into sony threads but i see very little effort about their own console of choise.

And if you been here long enough you will notice how all this will fade away when games start to come out.

And again fucking dealer?
You know there are many other decent xbox channels out there even colteastwood is a better choice.

 

[mckmas8808]

Here he also believes first party titles might not make full use of the SSD because Sony "won't want to spend 1 to 2 years rewriting their games to port to PC"

That's got to be one of the dumbest things I've heard yet about the PS5 lol

 

[Jigsaah]

I thought the xbox guys were running around chanting that the Lockhart would'nt hold back the Series X?
Still @18:15 to 21:00 This industry vet., Optimus, stated otherwise. Judging by Dealer & Co's reply, they either didn't understood any of it, or they quietly swept it under the rug,

aaaaand this is why I would never buy a Lockhart. Need to vote with my wallet.

 

[mckmas8808]

The smart shift tech is part of the AMD chip.

It is more likely that they had been simultaneously exploring both a fixed clock and variable clock solution. Then made the call based on a number of factors like R&D, stress testing, marketing, compatibility, etc.

No that's incorrect. It's the Power Control Unit that's measuring the workload for the variable clocks in the PS5.

Smart-Shift is for different usage and it's a bonus.

Ok took a bit but I listened to the whole podcast. There are some very interesting claims being made here. Here are a few of my takeaways

In regards to raytracing
Yes Sony has it, but Cerny didn't mention it. The devs on the podcast seem to think this could signal that the tech is there but possibly inferior to XSX. Personally I don't really buy that because we don't know much about XSX RTX capability either other than it's "Hardware Accelerated". So I'm 50/50 on that. I guess overall, because of the compute power difference, one would assume Sony's is not as capable.

About SSD and what it means in reference to performance:
According to the devs, the bottomline is that a faster SSD will not amount to better graphics. Two different things controlled by 2 different pieces of the hardware. What it comes down to is synergy and how well the system performs as a whole. In that they seem to suggest the XSX is the better engineered system due to things like constant TFLOP count and some other things I'm not quite savvy enough to understand fully.

When it comes down to First party vs Third party development, including PC
They said PS5's SSD would be taken full advantage of by first party studios, but 3rd party studios wouldn't use the SSD at it's full advantage. I would assume if the 3rd party does an exclusive game for PS5, that game would be able to take full advantage, however games that are multiplat or going to PC would not be able to take full advantage because of developing for the most common denominator.

Speaking of PC
If it comes down to anything holding back next gen games, it would be PC. I know this is gonna ruffle some features, but what the devs said actually made sense. It's due to the minimum spec. Next gen, you'll still have people who run a 1060. Ultimately it's up to the devs, but they aren't likely to cut off a large chunk of their player base if most people have lower end GPUs. I was unclear on how this affects the next gen consoles exactly. For exclusives that will be put on PC, either the minimum spec would need to raised to meet at least Lockhart levels (rumored) or those games may suffer as well. Especially if devs want to develop games that will work on SATA hard drives. This makes me weary of dumping more money to upgrade my PC at this time. At least this kind of defeats the narrative that "I'll just play it on PC" narrative...I mean you can, but in all likelihood, you may be playing an inferior version come the beginning of the gen. This goes double if PS5 releases their exclusives on PC as well.

Overall, it was a really good show. Definitely enjoyed it and look forward to the next one honestly. Last week I think they had Alanah Pierce...which, love her or not...she's pretty funny.

Alanah Pierce is pretty good.

 

[LeVictorien]

I haven't said that..
I don't even know wich negative comment about the PS5 you are refering to. Timestamp(s)?

I wasn't specificaly talking about something you said but the whole thread in general. Everyone seems to question who the devs are how they are unreliable and biased to be on an Xbox podcast. Because they didn't say anything negative about Xbox. But the thing you highlighted might make them more reliable now... we'll see lmao!

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Not really. The provenance here is just poor.

I'm sorry but when your source's career highlights consist largely of design positions on PS2/PS3 era F1 titles out of Studio Liverpool you know you aren't dealing with someone that technologically informed! Especially when its extremely unusual (never happens, realistically) to migrate from design to coding later in one's career.

Gotta be honest too. Most people I know in the business are very tight-lipped these days, blabbing to people about stuff under NDA is just not smart. No upside just the potential for cataclysmic blowback... why would you reveal anything?

I keep my mouth shut out of respect for my contacts, and I don't pry for the same reasons. I sure as shit won't be found putting myself about on Twitter under my own name...

That's fair enough tbh. Honestly at this point if it's not a 1st-party dev coming out talking about their respective system, there's a big fat grain of salt on there for me that probably won't be swallowed. With that said, I don't think their opinion is necessarily worthless, either. Same with that Crytek guy's, either. I think it's possible to look for some reasonable nuance in their statements when the console warrior mode is turned off by the observer.

At least it's a good thing most of the tech talk is getting phased out of the way right now, because once summer rolls in, I'm really more interested in the launch lineup and early-year games studios on both platforms are working on. There's other tech aspects anyway we can learn once the systems are finally out (unofficial teardowns and source-tracking of components, etc.).

I thought the xbox guys were running around chanting that the Lockhart would'nt hold back the Series X?
Still @18:15 to 21:00 This industry vet., Optimus, stated otherwise. Judging by Dealer & Co's reply, they either didn't understood any of it, or they quietly swept it under the rug,

Personally I'm still not completely sure if Lockhart will hold XSX back in terms of actual game design, given scalability of engines and code, etc. However, my BIGGEST issue with Lockhart is the financial proposition vs. the time durability of that proposition making any real business sense.

Basically, it's redundant at this point. Xcloud streaming on smartphones, PC, and the payment plan they have set up for XSX are more than good enough as cheap entry points into next-gen, so why waste money on Lockhart? Unless it's a streaming-only device OR being built for their server blades exclusively, I don't see the point in taking a loss on Lockhart sales when whatever MSRP they go with puts it in bad value proposition to PS5 and even XSX when you can just pay maybe $100 more for substantially more performance in those two systems. Plus it could mess up the ratio split of manufacturing between the Lockhart and XSX, which has its own potential problems.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I wasn't specificaly talking about something you said but the whole thread in general. Everyone seems to question who the devs are how they are unreliable and biased to be on an Xbox podcast. Because they didn't say anything negative about Xbox. But the thing you highlighted might make them more reliable now... we'll see lmao!

I don't think anyone is dismissing code, because he's actually giving level headed views unlike Chris who's just talking nonsense

 

[Hendrick's]

No that's incorrect. It's the Power Control Unit that's measuring the workload for the variable clocks in the PS5.

Smart-Shift is for different usage and it's a bonus.

That diagram is depicting exactly how smart shift works. It even says Smartshift on it .

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

That diagram is depicting exactly how smart shift works. It even says Smartshift on it .

That smartshift bit only appears at the very end. Watch the video

 

[Dory16]

No that's incorrect. It's the Power Control Unit that's measuring the workload for the variable clocks in the PS5.

Smart-Shift is for different usage and it's a bonus.

Ok.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/smartshift

 

[Dory16]

Get that trolling chip off your shoulder. I hope you feel better.

My shoulder was fine until you turned up actually. But thanks for asking.

 

[Lionel Richie]

You can say what you want about me or whatever, but you can't deny that Next-gen starts with PlayStation and not Xbox. The world is looking at Sony....

I see xbox fans putting a lot of effort into sony threads but i see very little effort about their own console of choise.

If that's true, that's true both ways. But I see some borderline mccarthyism by Sony fans in every thread that even hints at the possibility of the SEX being the superior console. Not that I'm surprised at these people being SEX negative, but the constant barrage of crummy rationalization gets irksome. Xbox fans shitpost as well, only us based Nintendo fans are ultimate chill bros, but that's not the point. What I find annoying is the constant attempts to discredit any positive SEX talk. I honestly don't see Xbox fans being so eager with any accusations of dishonesty.

Like I said, maybe you're right this time and this guy is absolutely not trustworthy. But that can't possibly be true every time.

 

[Rightisright]

Choose an alternative:


a) several developers, including third party working with devkits, talking to Jason Schreier

b) Designer retired for almost 15 years, that the closest he gets to working making a game is when he records a podcast with xbox fanboys, who has no access to any devkit



It seems quite simple which side has credibility.

But Jason Schreier doesn't have access to dev kits either, and Chris is saying what developer friends of his that are working on Dev kits are saying.
I would think that an ex dev who worked at some of the best studios would have more legit current contacts working in the industry than Jason Schreier would.
To think the opposite is just plain nuts.

 

[Azelover]

It's like I'm living in another world,... I don't see how the horse power difference between these two consoles, is anything to stress over. They're close enough.

The time when a power gap of this proportion made any difference, is over..

This war is gonna be won with games.

 

[mckmas8808]

Ok.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/smartshift

But Sony is using it in a different way. You are quoting how AMD is using it in their PC GPUs.

It's like I'm living in another world,... I don't see how the horse power difference between these two consoles, is anything to stress over. They're close enough.

The time when a power gap of this proportion made any difference, is over..

This war is gonna be won with games.

We are trying to tell them, but they don't understand.

 

[Dory16]

But Sony is using it in a different way. You are quoting how AMD is using it in their PC GPUs.



We are trying to tell them, but they don't understand.

That's something that you would say if you needed to present smartshift as something that it's not.
I trust that if Sony had modified AMD smartshift, they wouldnt have the same name and logo on their slides. They would be promoting it under their own trademark alongside kraken and tempest.

 

[Bojanglez]

Actually he is the owner and founder of that: https://urbanzoo.io
It is videogame related btw.
It is like a Facebook + Whatapp for sport guys to talk with their fans.
Not much Sport Clubs uses it... so the chances to you have used it are pretty low.

Apart from the first line, none of what you have said is correct, especially it being video game related.

This guy has a partnered Xbox app, a bad history with Sony and no technical background whatsoever.... why would anyone take him as a credible source?
.....on Dealers channel.... FML!

This is also not true. No idea how you ever came to that conclusion?

 

[ethomaz]

Apart from the first line, none of what you have said is correct, especially it being video game related.

Missed the not... sorry... fixed already.

 

[Bojanglez]

Missed the not... sorry... fixed already.

No worries, it happens mate

 

[ethomaz]

That's something that you would say if you needed to present smartshift as something that it's not.
I trust that if Sony had modified AMD smartshift, they wouldnt have the same name and logo on their slides. They would be promoting it under their own trademark alongside kraken and tempest.

They did not modified SmartShift.
They only use it when needs to transfer non-used power from CPU do GPU.

All the workload and monitoring is made but the Power Control Unit and yes the logic is customized by Sony.

 

[Dory16]

They did not modified SmartShift.
They only use it when needs to transfer non-used power from CPU do GPU.

All the workload and monitoring is made but the Power Control Unit and yes the logic is customized by Sony.

They only use smartshift to do what smartshift does, yes that's what I was guessing.
The power control unit does what the platform control does in AMD smartshift laptops.

 

[Deto]

But Jason Schreier doesn't have access to dev kits either, and Chris is saying what developer friends of his that are working on Dev kits are saying.
I would think that an ex dev who worked at some of the best studios would have more legit current contacts working in the industry than Jason Schreier would.
To think the opposite is just plain nuts.

Of course, that's why it was Chris who leaked three months before the release of Horizon Zero Dawn on the PC, since Jason doesn't have such good sources.

Of course, I have to take seriously a guy who showed up only and exclusively to talk shit about PS5 with xbox fanboys on twitter. Not a journalist already known for leaking REALITY.

I wonder who cares about his credibility:

a) journalist working as a journalist

b) game designer who has not worked with video games for more than 15 years, and it does not matter for him the credibility, since he does not work in the area anymore.

 

[Rightisright]

Of course, that's why it was Chris who leaked three months before the release of Horizon Zero Dawn on the PC, since Jason doesn't have such good sources.

Of course, I have to take seriously a guy who showed up only and exclusively to talk shit about PS5 with xbox fanboys on twitter. Not a journalist already known for leaking REALITY.

Do you think that the guys coding consoles are the same guy making decisions about what games get released on what platform?
And I think you will find other people leaked the fact the HZD was going to be released on PC before Jason did. He was just stealing someone else's scoop.

 

[Deto]

Do you think that the guys coding consoles are the same guy making decisions about what games get released on what platform?

several developers, including third party working with devkits, talking to Jason Schreier


It's amazing, I just have to copy and paste what I already said.

 

[Rightisright]

several developers, including third party working with devkits, talking to Jason Schreier


It's amazing, I just have to copy and paste what I already said.

But you don't think a dev who spent 15 years in the industry making high end PlayStation games, doesnt have any friends, or colleagues that are still developing games for both PS and XSX? You think he didn't make any lasting friendships, and cant pick up the phone to talk to guys current working on PS5 and XSX?
You honestly believe that a dev is going to tell Jason stuff, but not his mate that he worked with for years?
I'm sorry for you if you think Chris cant ring and speak to a heap of people coding these machines.
But Jason, who has never coded anything, has the hotline to these guys.
Stop. Just stop.

 

[Bryank75]

Apart from the first line, none of what you have said is correct, especially it being video game related.



This is also not true. No idea how you ever came to that conclusion?

I like to make shit up...what can I say!

Mr Booooo jangles, he could jump so high, so high
and then he'd lightly touch down...

 

[Deto]

But you don't think a dev who spent 15 years in the industry making high end PlayStation games, doesnt have any friends, or colleagues that are still developing games for both PS and XSX? You think he didn't make any lasting friendships, and cant pick up the phone to talk to guys current working on PS5 and XSX?
You honestly believe that a dev is going to tell Jason stuff, but not his mate that he worked with for years?
I'm sorry for you if you think Chris cant ring and speak to a heap of people coding these machines.
But Jason, who has never coded anything, has the hotline to these guys.
Stop. Just stop.

Of course, that's why it was Chris who leaked three months before the release of Horizon Zero Dawn on the PC, since Jason doesn't have such good sources.

Of course, I have to take seriously a guy who showed up only and exclusively to talk shit about PS5 with xbox fanboys on twitter. Not a journalist already known for leaking REALITY.


And what he says on the podcast:

He did said every possible negative rumor we heard for PS5 and even for things that we know officially are not true.

9TF
heating problems
have to choose whether the CPU or GPU is at the maximum clock
RDNA 1
PS5 does not support hardware RT

And the list goes on


Basically, it repeats all the FUD already inventing by the xbox fanboys.

 

[93xfan]

Here's the problem: A quick look at Grannell's Mobygames profile just shows him as a designer, not a programmer and quite frankly if that's what his position was back in the early 2000's his technological knowledge is not only limited but way outdated.

The bottom line for me is that I know what projects he was working on at Studio Liverpool, I know what an absolute shit-show that studio was during that period, and I know how sour a lot of the people were after Shuhei Yoshida shut the whole the thing down.

He's not a trustworthy source in any way, shape, or form. And I say this knowing A LOT of people from the NW dev-scene accumulated over the 30+ years since I started in the biz.

Do you have any sources that can shed some light on this stuff?
Also, Chris is talking about what he has heard from multiple sources. I don't see why he'd go out on a limb and risk his name like this to try and get back at Sony.

 

[DForce]

Interesting that when there are devs talking up the Sony SSD that's 100% important and relevant. When it's another dev saying something critical, it should be immediately dismissed. Never fails to disappoint, SonyGAF.

Like how everyone from XboxGAF discredits talking about the advantages of the PS5 over the XsX as being Sony devs or trying to damage control?

 

[93xfan]

Worked on killzone 2. If those screenshots and video were bullshots does that mean his explainations are bullshit?

it's a nice attempt, but clearly a cheap one. He wasn't Sony's PR person. Also, Sony worked very hard to mislead people that generation in order to convince them to wait for their system. Remember the Motorstorm trailer that also tried to look like gameplay (at points)?

That's what Sony did back then when they wanted to control the narrative. The question is whether they will do the same thing this time, knowing that they don't have the raw performance lead? I'd guess they probably learned their lesson, but I will be skeptical of any game that looks too good to be true if I don't see actual gameplay.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Sony was not caught off guard. Where is this nonsensical garbage coming from? It's only 15% less. Sony knew that MS strategy changed with the X1X to provide their consumerbase with a powerful console. It should have been completely expected what range they were going to target.

When Sony or MS sit down with AMD, they discuss dozens of diffrent ways to go about designing an APU, pros/cons of each approach, and they have a fixed budget/volume of chips they are aiming for.

Sony simply had a difference in priorities. They focused more on areas of the console that could provide a more meaningful difference than simply going after pure pixel pushing power on paper. It's not to say MS or Sony made wrong choices, just different ones...and it resulted in a difference of only 15% less power, the smallest we've ever had which will easily scale with dynamic techniques and be largely not noticeable at all.

The idea that they were caught off guard or that the difference is "STAGGERING" or "Ray tracing is hugely more powerful on XSX" is 100% Bullshit.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Of course, that's why it was Chris who leaked three months before the release of Horizon Zero Dawn on the PC, since Jason doesn't have such good sources.

Of course, I have to take seriously a guy who showed up only and exclusively to talk shit about PS5 with xbox fanboys on twitter. Not a journalist already known for leaking REALITY.

I wonder who cares about his credibility:

a) journalist working as a journalist

b) game designer who has not worked with video games for more than 15 years, and it does not matter for him the credibility, since he does not work in the area anymore.

You do realize almost every insider would fall under this exact classification, yet many people here believed them without fail.

That isn't an indictment on the insiders; personally I found their input valuable even if I disagreed with some of it (some insiders more than others). But it's just weird to use a guy's background as some bogus litmus test to see if their input is worth considering. By that logic, there's almost zero posters on all of these gaming forums with opinions worth taking into account.

It's a dumb tactic and an extreme one to take at that. Would it have suddenly been cool for you if he went on a PS podcast instead? Because technically it'd just be the same thing only the optics would apparently be in better alignment with your own preferences. No one is saying you have to believe these people on everything they say, but if someone's an ex-developer likely with connections of their own to people in the industry and a means of speaking with friends on dev teams working on next-gen systems, at the very least I'd give their input some consideration.

You can use your own judgement and pick out what sounds plausible to you without being so extreme in taking an all-or-nothing approach.

 

[Gamernyc78]

several developers, including third party working with devkits, talking to Jason Schreier


It's amazing, I just have to copy and paste what I already said.

"most revolutionary" I'm loving it but than again we already know the deal with Sony. Thyve been pushing the game medium forward innovatively every Gen with PSVR being only VR on console and doing it ahead of its time and competently. Love the momentum and it seems the more twitter troll, forum hate the more ppl seem to love what they do and the more thy make ppl eat their words We see you

 

[Rightisright]

Of course, that's why it was Chris who leaked three months before the release of Horizon Zero Dawn on the PC, since Jason doesn't have such good sources.

Jason did not leak HZD coming to PC. It was actually somebody on NEOGAF that did.
Jason did what is called "stealing a scoop".

And Jason said his insiders said the PS5 had more Tflops than the XSX did, and that was wrong. So hes not the great insider you think he is.

Of course, I have to take seriously a guy who showed up only and exclusively to talk shit about PS5 with xbox fanboys on twitter. Not a journalist already known for leaking REALITY.


And what he says on the podcast:

He did said every possible negative rumor we heard for PS5 and even for things that we know officially are not true.

9TF
heating problems
have to choose whether the CPU or GPU is at the maximum clock
RDNA 1
PS5 does not support hardware RT

And the list goes on


Basically, it repeats all the FUD already inventing by the xbox fanboys.

I must have been listening to a different podcast.
He didn't say it was RDNA 1 that I recall.

He said he hadn't heard of any overheating issues with the PS5 dev kits like people had been saying. He actually defended the PS5 on that count. He said he had heard the dev kits run hot. But thats been spoken about by many people, and lets be honest, a chip running at 2.23ghz is going to run really, really hot.

He said he was told the PS5 was a 9.x tflop machine all day every day that peaks at the 10.3tflops.
All it has to do is drop down to 2.17ghz regularly and its spending alot of time in the 9tflops range.
At this point none of us know how much the clocks drop, so we really can t judge what he says.
And saying that devs have to manage peak speeds of both the CPU and GPU is a known fact. Cerny said it himself.
That is actually the least controversial things he said. Him saying that devs prefer to have known clocks to work with is just basic logic. Again, in no way controversial.

He gave his opinion that he thought Sony got caught napping by MS. He said he thought the inclusion of variable clocks on the PS5 is evidence of them reacting to the XSX power lead. And again, thats pretty logical. I mean, there is no way Cerny decided that variable clocks were the way to go when they first started designing the PS5.
He said the XSX has better RT than the PS5, and again, as the XSX has more RT cores on hardware (45% more) it's going to be able to perform more Ray tracing intersection than the PS5.

Dont let it ruin your day. PS5 is still a beast.

 

[ethomaz]

And Jason said his insiders said the PS5 had more Tflops than the XSX did, and that was wrong. So hes not the great insider you think he is.

Smelling the shit...
Please show us where he said that.
Made up claims are not valid.

 

[93xfan]

It's the other way around. It looks like all the positive news from devs about the PS5 is shaking up Xfans, and even starting to get a little nervous, insecure and making discord channels, youtube video's to shit on everything. No one is saying the PS5 will have the same raw power, and in the end the difference will be way to small.

You can say what you want about me or whatever, but you can't deny that Next-gen starts with PlayStation and not Xbox. The world is looking at Sony....

"next gen doesn't start until we say so"
-Sony 2005

 

[93xfan]

This guy doesn't have a dev kit and seems to not being developing a next gen game since he's talking about the PS5/XSX.

Why does anybody care what he says? He doesn't know.

You're right, he doesn't. I don't care much about what he has said. He was wrong about Cerny skipping ray tracing.

HOWEVER, he is saying he's still got friends in the industry that said the PS5 has a noticeable advantage, particularly in regards to ray tracing. I don't see a reason for him to risk his reputation and make stuff up. But of course it's certainly possible.

The question isn't whether he's personally well informed about PS5 or missed a thing Cerny said, but whether he's lying about what he has heard from friends in the industry.

 

[SLB1904]

 

[GHG]

Of course, that's why it was Chris who leaked three months before the release of Horizon Zero Dawn on the PC, since Jason doesn't have such good sources.

Of course, I have to take seriously a guy who showed up only and exclusively to talk shit about PS5 with xbox fanboys on twitter. Not a journalist already known for leaking REALITY.


And what he says on the podcast:

He did said every possible negative rumor we heard for PS5 and even for things that we know officially are not true.

9TF
heating problems
have to choose whether the CPU or GPU is at the maximum clock
RDNA 1
PS5 does not support hardware RT

And the list goes on


Basically, it repeats all the FUD already inventing by the xbox fanboys.

Nevermind all of that, the fact he's happy to even go on a podcast like this tells you everything you need to know.

You're too smart. Tone it down.

Oh shush you.

 

[Dory16]

Nevermind all of that, the fact he's happy to even go on a podcast like this tells you everything you need to know.



Oh shush you.

You advocate for a world where people are judged based not on what they say but on who they talked to. That's all we need to know about you.

 

[GHG]

You advocate for a world where people are judged based not on what they say but on who they talked to. That's all we need to know about you.

I'm perfectly fine with that, we all have different thresholds for what we would deem to be acceptable.

 

[The_Mike]

If anything Sony will make the console their top priority. So if a game can't run on a PC due to a lack of an SSD it won't come out on that platform.

I don't see Sony investing so much into their I/O technology only to throw it away due to releasing games on PC.

Speaking of PC
If it comes down to anything holding back next gen games, it would be PC. I know this is gonna ruffle some features, but what the devs said actually made sense. It's due to the minimum spec. Next gen, you'll still have people who run a 1060. Ultimately it's up to the devs, but they aren't likely to cut off a large chunk of their player base if most people have lower end GPUs. I was unclear on how this affects the next gen consoles exactly. For exclusives that will be put on PC, either the minimum spec would need to raised to meet at least Lockhart levels (rumored) or those games may suffer as well. Especially if devs want to develop games that will work on SATA hard drives. This makes me weary of dumping more money to upgrade my PC at this time. At least this kind of defeats the narrative that "I'll just play it on PC"...I mean you can, but in all likelihood, you may be playing an inferior version come the beginning of the gen. This goes double if PS5 releases their exclusives on PC as well.

Okay let's calm down and stop being delusional in this console war. Start to read what you're actually writing.

This is the most stupidest thing I've read regarding the ps5. PC gaming holding back any console is a joke.

 

[JerryinSoCal]

But Jason Schreier doesn't have access to dev kits either, and Chris is saying what developer friends of his that are working on Dev kits are saying.
I would think that an ex dev who worked at some of the best studios would have more legit current contacts working in the industry than Jason Schreier would.
To think the opposite is just plain nuts.

I'm just curious, I don't know how old you are so I don't want to assume anything but have you ever left a job and 10 years later still talked to the people who worked there? it's very rare for that to happen, maybe you are young and haven't gone through that yet I don't know but I'm an old fart and I'll tell you that most people who leave a job also leave the people behind, even their "friends" after a certain amount of time. Everyone says they'll stay in touch etc and everyone intends to but over time people just move on, you get new work friends and no longer have time for the people you used to work with etc. If this guy has been out of the industry for over 10 years I highly doubt he has friends that are willing to break their NDA's to feed him information that he's just going to turn around and share on twitter.

Schreier breaks legit news all the time, the guy has a proven record and is connected to people working on things now, this other guy just popped up out of nowhere and now is being taken seriously without any proof. He already made one statement that makes no sense, he said that devs may have to make compromises on PS5, devs will always have to make compromises on every console and on PC as well, you can't ever just do 100% of everything you want, it's just part of the process. He's talking but not actually saying anything.

 

[93xfan]

Okay let's calm down and stop being delusional in this console war. Start to read what you're actually writing.

This is the most stupidest thing I've read regarding the ps5. PC gaming holding back any console is a joke.

There's some merit in there. Once this gen is dropped (and some 3rd party devs will do that very soon), every console will they develop for will have a very fast SSD and ray tracing.

If they want to target a variety of PCs (ones with HDDs and much slower SSDs), they may still need to design levels with elevators or corridors to hide load times. They also won't be able to count on everyone having ray tracing hardware.

 

[Bernkastel]

 

[FranXico]

Terrible and misleading explanation, since the change in power consumption is not scaling linearly with the clock frequency. Not intended to make anything at all clearer.

 

[Thirty7ven]

He backtracked after realizing how dumb he sounded. Too late, you're gonna be that dude forever.

But special cases will just move on to the next fool I see.

 

[Bernkastel]

He backtracked after realizing how dumb he sounded. Too late, you're gonna be that dude forever.

So, this is also back-tracking then ?