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ha, I had yours but I just switched it
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Chris Nolan's 'Inception' to star Dicaprio!
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ha, I had yours but I just switched it
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Nice, it was already screened for MPAA so that makes sense.Guzim said:
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will totally Facebook friend you! *giggle* *LOL*
If the movie ran for several years, I'd still watch it all the way through.
DieH@rd said:
I really hate this mindframe. Its not a videogame. If a movie can do what it needs to in 90 minutes, then it should be 90 minutes long, not 120 minutes long. Obviously this isnt with respect to Inception because none of us have seen it, but as a general rule. I dont know how many movie threads on GAF that Ive literally shaken my head over when someone says this.
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It all depends on the film. There are crazy long movies that fly by because of excellent pacing (Zodiac, The Departed, etc.) and short films that feel like the drag on forever (Cop Out, Extraordinary Measures).
As long as directors keep it interesting it really doesn't matter the length.
As long as directors keep it interesting it really doesn't matter the length.
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wRATH2x said:
I agree. There are definitely great movies that are under 2 hours but so many movies with this type of scale need the length. Whenever there are these epic story archs with a long run time it makes me much more engaged and connected with the film like I am part of that journey because it's so damn long. Definitely doesn't work for every movie. I would have been a little questionable had the length been under 2 hours for Inception though because it seems like there will be a lot of explaining to do.
DanielPlainview said:
Thats exactly what I said. A movie should only be as long as it needs to be. Develop your characters, tell your story. Anything beyond that and you start drifting into excess which hurts the movie.
Also, its funny you mention The Departed, because its a perfect candidate for what I am talking about. Its the worst edited movie Scorsese ever made. Its fucking shameful that for all the great work Thelma Schoonmaker has done over the years, she finally got an Oscar for the worst work shes ever done. There is 25 minutes that could easily be trimmed from the movie and you'd have a much better final product. There are wholesale Nicholson scenes in this movie that should have been slashed. We already knew that Frank was a nutjob from the opening scene. They didnt need to reinforce it 10 more times with Jack chewing scenery.
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Some videogames definitely go on for too long, too (at least the single-player story aspect).Solo said:
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Fair enough. I can't even bring myself to finish most games over a few hours long nowadays...Mass Effect series aside.Solo said:
Anyway, getting back on topic, I'm hoping that 150 minutes is packed to the brim with awesomeness, and doesn't have a weak third act like another Nolan film...
CajoleJuice said:
I don't think hes had a third act failure yet ala Danny Boyle, but his third acts in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are notably inferior to the 2 acts that proceed them. Which just so happen to be the "action movie climax" part of the film, which is where Nolan is lacking. I dont see Inception having this problem, because I dont think its going to be that kind of movie.
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Yeah, I can agree with that (on all points, especially the Boyle comment).Solo said:
I'm back from my move, back to bumping this thread with updates!
http://www.nolanfans.com/2010/05/30/reality-behind-inception-playing-during-theater-previews/
http://www.nolanfans.com/2010/05/30/reality-behind-inception-playing-during-theater-previews/
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DMczaf said:
FFS. They did one of these for Robin Hood. Stop spoiling the fucking movie before I've seen it you motherfuckers. Worst idea ever.
Don't feel like making a new thread but apparently Ken Wantanabe will be directing a film about the 442nd Infantry Regiment (Japanese-American regiment in WW2).
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/01...m-based-on-the-famed-442nd-infantry-regiment/
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/01...m-based-on-the-famed-442nd-infantry-regiment/
Blader5489 said:
Certainly.
From now on, Boyle should hire two screenwriters, Garland to write the first two acts and someone else to finish it off.
I don't get his fascination with departing from nearly everything he built up in the first two acts... he's done it in Sunshine, The Island and 28 Days Later. It's ridiculous :lol
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Garland and Boyle are the best pairing. Fuck you guys.
Dan said:
I'm perfectly fine with it, I just find the instant transition from traditional Hollywood to something more akin to French New Wave to be unsettling and rather disjointed. It's possible to create a genre film with substance, without having to shit on 75% of your story when transitioning to Act 3.
Anyways, Nolan should reward Wantanabe's awesomeness with a leading role in his next film, the man is beyond badass.
Clearly, A massive twist is always needed to make the film say something.Dan said:
There are good twist/major plot changes(whatever you call it), like No Country for Old Men.
There are bad ones like 28 Days Later and Sunshine. It doesn't help that Boyle is terrible with 3rd acts too.
And awesome to Watanabe getting his chance to direct. Hopefully it's as good as Letters from Iwo Jima and doesn't go on a train wreck like Miracle of Saint Anna.
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Yeah Watanabe is great. I'll gladly see the WW2 film he's directing.
It would be nice to see him in more major roles. He was fantastic in Letters from Iwo Jima.
Also I agree on Garland fucking up the third act. Major tonal shifts always occur in his scripts.
It would be nice to see him in more major roles. He was fantastic in Letters from Iwo Jima.
Also I agree on Garland fucking up the third act. Major tonal shifts always occur in his scripts.
Dan said:
Sunshine for example,
shifts from hard science fiction to a slasher film. The film seemed to be heading in a direction where the crew members were going to have to face each other, and make a decision as to who lives and who dies for the sake of humanity. But no, we were robbed of that emotional ordeal and given a 3rd act that certainly brings the character and story arcs to an end, but in a way that is uninspired and ridiculously out of sync with the tone of what came before it.
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i really liked the third act of 28 DAYS LATER, but otherwise i'm with the idea that his third acts get real weird and stupid real fast. unfortunately even that third act of 28DL was done about a billion times better in the (admittedly often cheesy) original DAY OF THE DEAD.
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Tonal shift does not = a twist, shintoki.
I love the third act of 28 Days Later. Jim storming the house is brilliant. I like Garland's third acts because they usually take characters who are already in a completely deep hole they need to get out of and then throw in an extra conflict which creates absolutely desperate circumstances.
28 Days wouldn't have been nearly as good if the third act was them arriving at the military base and then trying to survive more hordes of infected alongside the friendly military types.
The family adventure with Frank and Anna was killed off right where it peaked, rather than winding down into survival horror with them.
I love the third act of 28 Days Later. Jim storming the house is brilliant. I like Garland's third acts because they usually take characters who are already in a completely deep hole they need to get out of and then throw in an extra conflict which creates absolutely desperate circumstances.
28 Days wouldn't have been nearly as good if the third act was them arriving at the military base and then trying to survive more hordes of infected alongside the friendly military types.
The family adventure with Frank and Anna was killed off right where it peaked, rather than winding down into survival horror with them.
Another bit of Viral marketing from Wired. It's the manual for the "Dream-Share":
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/06/dream-share-manual/all/1
Even though mostly everything is "blacked out", the titles and illustrations are very interesting.
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/06/dream-share-manual/all/1
Even though mostly everything is "blacked out", the titles and illustrations are very interesting.
The Hostile Subconscious illustrations seem to imply that regular people in the dream will be hostile to "invaders". Makes sense, because thats what happens in the Mind-Crime game.
The third act of Sunshine just makes the obstacle humanity is facing a more intimate personification.harSon said:
The sun, a force about as godlike as anything in our known universe, is dying and taking humanity with it. This is man versus nature on an epic scale, with Pinbacker as the up-close-and-personal personification of nature. Who is humanity, an infinitesimal species that's only existed for the blink of eye on a cosmic scale, to step in and radically alter the life of the sun? He's just a living embodiment of the forces that the Icarus II faced in the earlier parts of the film, which were all about the insignificance of mankind and its creations against the vast power of space and the sun.
Not sure what movie you watched, but those scenes are there. You don't get the aftermath but that wouldn't have been terribly interesting without having the last act
be about the return trip with the remaining crew dealing with survivor's guilt, and that'd be another tonal shift as well
Word. I can't wait for people to complain when The Walking Dead isn't just about humans being killed by and killing zombies, but about humans in conflict with each other.Scullibundo said:
If you seriously can't see how these third acts are just extensions of the rest of their films, you're not paying attention.
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