Green Mamba
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That will come closer to release. Lucas didn't get his page on the website until the day him, Roy, and Ryu were released. So we'll see Cloud's page in December.
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Cloud announced for Smash Bros
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Do we know if Cloud's inclusion had any sway because of the ballot or is it purely a buisness thing between Square and Nintendo?
Because if so, then the same could be done for Banjo. Hes a popular ballot choice and the two companies could work something out, such as releasing Rare's GBA and DS games on VC. Not to mention they must have already worked together to keep Jetpac in DK64.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
His only successful games were on the N64 and at one point Nintendo even owned the IP (which they didn't for Rare's other creations).
Choppasmith
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2edgy4me
I wonder if the deal was they could use Cloud in exchange for flipping the bill on a bunch of their 3DS offerings including Dragon Quest.
Prevolition
Member
I, for one, gladly welcome Cloud as a Smash Brother. Getting more and more excited for his release.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Do you mind to not speak for other people? I know plenty people that like Dark Pit's inclusion.
Making a product that people want is indeed shameful.
Good thing is that means the Wii U is the least shameful thing there is.
All four of these sentences are bewildering.
Monocle
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I thought my hyperbole made it obvious that I don't really think everyone hates Dark Pit. And who would seriously claim that there's "scientific consensus" about a video game character?
As far as clones go, Dark Pit a pretty sorry example though. Lucas is how you do it right.
FreedomFighter
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I'm on mobile, so I can't bold the second paragraph. But I agree with this analysis.
This is exactly what Nintendo did in Melee with March and Roy. And that's why Fire Emblem built a fanbase in the US - via Smash Bros. I agree with all the people who take this as a sign that FFDVIIR will be coming to NX. Some have brought up the Solid Snake example but I don't think that's at play here.
Time will tell. But chances are good after Square basically announcing DQVI for NX and VIIR being mulri-plat clearly.
Troubled Bat
Member
I had some high hopes for Dark Pit considering he's Pit all the way. I would have assumed that he'd be easier to do with a completely different moveset. :V
Anyway, the wait is going to be a long one for December. It's crazy how much characters we have at the moment. I still don't have a Wii U either. lol xP
Anyway, the wait is going to be a long one for December. It's crazy how much characters we have at the moment. I still don't have a Wii U either. lol xP
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Well, he was rather very last minutes clone so I understand why he's not like Lucas and Roy. If he's coming back in Smash 5, it's possible that his moveset would changed like Roy and Falco.
What about Lucina actually?
balladofwindfishes
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I have no idea how someone on Reddit managed to find this, but here's a full HD render of Cloud without a background
There's some crazy detail on his model
There's some crazy detail on his model
Troubled Bat
Member
I still can't get over the fact that Cloud is in Smash Bros.
Also, I love how everything looks great, but then you look at the ear. xP
Seven Force
Banned
Edit: Scratch that, forgot about Dissidia Arcade. Cloud'll release in Smash before the console port even gets announced, though :V
Lucina doesn't count since she's....that w word material. /s
Tom Nook
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Wow, *Saves pic*
balladofwindfishes
Member
I've never played FFVII, does Cloud have a false left hand, or just a weird metal bracer that sort of makes it look like he has a false left hand?
The wrist on that thing seems too small to fit over his arm.
The wrist on that thing seems too small to fit over his arm.
Clearly you don't need to be iconic enough anymore.
Nah it's just his weird bracer. In FF7, you didn't equip armor, you just got stronger bracelets that had materia slots to augment your abilities, so that's why it's even there on the character model.
Monocle
Member
Lucina is equally disappointing gameplay-wise, but more female representation is always nice. And she looks cool, so there's that.
Professor Beef
Banned
Wumbo, obviously.
King Gilga
Member
So weird, why use a playstation character when there's so many nintendo characters still left.
So unless I'm reading this wrong it's okay to have last minute clones if they're female?
Just saw this from the Twitter account of Cloud's English VA, Steve Burton:
Burton's response:
The tweet was dated 3 hours ago, so I guess that counts as confirmation that he's returning as the voice?
https://twitter.com/1SteveBurton?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Burton's response:
The tweet was dated 3 hours ago, so I guess that counts as confirmation that he's returning as the voice?
https://twitter.com/1SteveBurton?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Troubled Bat
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Nice! That's good news for me. :3
DICKS AHOY
Banned
It's Final Fantasy so there's probably a ton of cool looking but functionally-pointless things in Cloud's costume.
90% sure it is ballot free. Too fast to do all the rights negotiation AND have a character and a stage almost finished
Great news. Wonder if cloud will sound somewhat more energetic compared to his dissidia/current self.
Oh...well I'll remain hopeful.
I posted this elsewhere but felt like it was worth discussing.
Cloud MIGHT be the Ballot Winner. Yes the Ballot ended last month but Sakurai must had looked at the poll early and saw Cloud and decided to begin the negotiations to make the game.
How do I know Sakurai looked at results early? Simple. K. Rool and Inkling costumes. In all mock polls K. Rool and Inklings we're in the top 5 characters wanted for Smash. If it was just Inklings you would take this information with a grain of salt, but K. Rool is more out there in terms of costume choice, proving that Sakurai DID take a early sample of the Ballot.
Mewtwo took at least 6 months to finalize his character and moveset for release. I'm sure Sakurai's team did take a small break because the Holidays we're in the middle of this break. So let's just assume it takes 6 months to finalize a DLC character. Let's say Sakurai DID sample the ballot, he could had done so when he looked at K.Rool and Inklings. They release in late July, that's at least 4 months right there, but that's also assuming the costumes we're made in the week but most likely they we're decided and created well before that. So let's just say a month, that's 5 months now. And most noteworthy we didn't see Cloud's 3DS version form, only his Wii U, with no release date. So assuming Cloud releases next month, that's exactly 6 months of development for his release.
So Cloud COULD had been the Ballot winner, or at least Sakurai decided to add him BECAUSE of the Ballot.
I'm sure we will be seeing more characters revealed/added next month. (I'm still assuming we will be getting Wolf with Star Fox, and either another clone or original character like K.Rool, Inklings, or Issac.)
Cloud MIGHT be the Ballot Winner. Yes the Ballot ended last month but Sakurai must had looked at the poll early and saw Cloud and decided to begin the negotiations to make the game.
How do I know Sakurai looked at results early? Simple. K. Rool and Inkling costumes. In all mock polls K. Rool and Inklings we're in the top 5 characters wanted for Smash. If it was just Inklings you would take this information with a grain of salt, but K. Rool is more out there in terms of costume choice, proving that Sakurai DID take a early sample of the Ballot.
Mewtwo took at least 6 months to finalize his character and moveset for release. I'm sure Sakurai's team did take a small break because the Holidays we're in the middle of this break. So let's just assume it takes 6 months to finalize a DLC character. Let's say Sakurai DID sample the ballot, he could had done so when he looked at K.Rool and Inklings. They release in late July, that's at least 4 months right there, but that's also assuming the costumes we're made in the week but most likely they we're decided and created well before that. So let's just say a month, that's 5 months now. And most noteworthy we didn't see Cloud's 3DS version form, only his Wii U, with no release date. So assuming Cloud releases next month, that's exactly 6 months of development for his release.
So Cloud COULD had been the Ballot winner, or at least Sakurai decided to add him BECAUSE of the Ballot.
I'm sure we will be seeing more characters revealed/added next month. (I'm still assuming we will be getting Wolf with Star Fox, and either another clone or original character like K.Rool, Inklings, or Issac.)
Oni Link 666
Member
I'd rather have some Belmonts.
I have NO idea when massive amounts of $$$ made no sense to anyone who could use the internets.
I do agree with the notion I don't think "Nintendo" when I think "Cloud Strife" but then again I didn't like FFVII.
I still think SNES when I think FF (thank you FFVI).
InfiniDragon
Member
Really hope Steve Burton is still voicing Cloud in Smash and he's not just referring to the remake. Can't imagine anyone else for the job.
I want the whole party plus sephiroth but that may be asking for too much...
I agree with this. I love Steve's voice for Cloud.
Seven Force
Banned
When I look at the Kingdom Hearts renders, it's interesting to see the difference in artstyle.
In all fairness, KH has a really unique, defined artstyle. His Dissidia renders (for both the PSP and arcade games) look a bit different from each other as well.
MrSaturn99
Member
I never thought I'd say this, but for the inevitable character poster I want to see Nomura to draw it just so I can see his interpretation of Nintendo characters alongside the other third-party guests. Even if it's just zippers everywhere.
Smash Bros.! <3
Smash Bros.! <3
InfiniDragon
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Yeah it's funny because when I first heard the voice, I kept hearing Jason Morgan (his role on General Hospital) because I watched that show with my dad as a teen. Whereas now when I see stuff about the soaps he's in nowadays I'm like "breh that's Cloud MF'n Strife, he'll wreck your ass".
He IS Cloud for me, just like Steve Blum is Spike Spiegel above any of the other zillion roles he's had.
Troubled Bat
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I look forward to Link/Shulk in his artstyle.
entremet
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The last sentence is embarrassing,
Weltall Zero
Member
So giving people what they want is shameful now. What the fuck am I reading anymore.
Papacheeks
Banned
I said this in another thread, I think his moves look freaking amazing, but he does not belong in that game, or on that system.
People thinking this is some kind of partnership need to get their heads out of the .......cloud. Unless Nintendo threw shitloads of money at square I highly doubt we will see Final fantasy 7 remake or something related to that on Nintendo's platform.
That's too big of a risk right now for Square to invest in putting a game known on another platform that is selling well, and garnering a lot of Japanese support.
People thinking this is some kind of partnership need to get their heads out of the .......cloud. Unless Nintendo threw shitloads of money at square I highly doubt we will see Final fantasy 7 remake or something related to that on Nintendo's platform.
That's too big of a risk right now for Square to invest in putting a game known on another platform that is selling well, and garnering a lot of Japanese support.
Comments like these throughout the thread are so weird to me. You're telling me that if the fate of the world rested in you coming up with a reason why Cloud got selected over other Nintendo characters, you couldn't think of a single reason?