Teuoxton
Member
I'd like to see Terra, along with an NX FFVI remake.
Never gonna happen though 
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Cloud announced for Smash Bros
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KratosEnergyDrink
Member
The only dedicated gaming platform in Japan selling "well" is the 3DS. PS4 and Wii U sales are pathetic, despite some occasionally spikes.
So Square has good reason to port their releases to new platforms, like they do with the new Dragon Quest. Since it is not impossible that NX gets a lot of 3DS/WiiU gamers on board on perhaps some new ones too.
Look at all those new Mega Man and Pacman games.
well, legacy collection was on the direct too... pretty in sync with how snake brought a port with him.
Professor Beef
Banned
I'd like to see Terra, along with an NX FFVI remake.Never gonna happen though
And thank god for that.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Could he maybe be thinking of the FFVII remake? He was kind of vague.
Shadow_FFVI
Member
Because he's one the most iconic characters in videogames. Few characters in the Smash roster right now surpass his popularity. Plus, Clous is awesome.
TheDinoman
Member
I think he looks great, but I would of liked if they were able to make him more like what he did in FF7.
To be honest I prefer the more cartoonish look above than the semi-realistic style we have these days.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Still curious what poster they'll do. Does FF7 have an official ensemble pick they can mock?
Also guys, ignore drive-by posting.
Also guys, ignore drive-by posting.
No official art of the whole cast. Just the FFVII logo and their individual arts put together.
I'm thinking it could be a parody of this:
Just replace the Shinra building with the Smash cast or something.
Or a parody of this:
With new artwork for Cloud and two other characters.
I got nothing.
Seven Force
Banned
I don't believe so.
I'm willing to bet it'll be some variation of this, since it's easily the most iconic piece of art associated with the game:
Could probably add imposing looking characters from the roster towering over the buildings or whatnot.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
You know, one of the most fascinating and hilarious things to do after something's been announced (be it in the gaming or movie industry) is checking the reactions on Youtube. That shit was ridiculous awesome for (recent examples) FFVII Remake and final trailer for SW VII... but I was severely disappointed and even a bit frustrated when I noticed that almost every single one of the reactions on Youtube for this reveal felt so fucking fake.
When Bombing Run starts playing in the background, a real fan would instantly recognize what's about to happen - let alone the intro with the stars running simultaneously. Almost every reaction was "wait, what is this?" until it clearly said "FINAL FANTASY VII" which leads me to believe that every fucking person who 'explodes' at that moment is faking the reaction. How the hell could you be so excited for something that you clearly have no idea about?
And yes, in my book, if you don't recognize Bombing Run within the first 10 seconds while looking at one of the biggest-for-its-time-intro, you're not aware of how FFVII. You should be excited for playing a new character, yes - but please stop being excited for the sake of getting high view counts on Youtube.
Example #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqObhvbKjA8
Example #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67X6qoryEdc
Example #3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRRKKk0Mxk
And it goes on and on and on... ugh.
Edit: here's how a genuine, real 'fan' would react: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIIEG2Qm_DM Instantly recognizes the game the second the theme is played.
When Bombing Run starts playing in the background, a real fan would instantly recognize what's about to happen - let alone the intro with the stars running simultaneously. Almost every reaction was "wait, what is this?" until it clearly said "FINAL FANTASY VII" which leads me to believe that every fucking person who 'explodes' at that moment is faking the reaction. How the hell could you be so excited for something that you clearly have no idea about?
And yes, in my book, if you don't recognize Bombing Run within the first 10 seconds while looking at one of the biggest-for-its-time-intro, you're not aware of how FFVII. You should be excited for playing a new character, yes - but please stop being excited for the sake of getting high view counts on Youtube.
Example #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqObhvbKjA8
Example #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67X6qoryEdc
Example #3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiRRKKk0Mxk
And it goes on and on and on... ugh.
Edit: here's how a genuine, real 'fan' would react: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIIEG2Qm_DM Instantly recognizes the game the second the theme is played.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I guess they can use Bowser's Castle for it and have a bunch of villains on it.
That's why I really liked max's reaction. The complete dumfounded/shocked look he had when he instantly reconized the first few notes was priceless.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'm more dumbfounded that reaction videos are a thing.
Wyndstryker
Member
I know there are a ton of fake reactions out there. And not every person is musically inclined to remember the bombing run tune. But I'm pretty sure many people out there are far more familiar with the magnitude of what transpired even if they're not fans of the game. And really, people get super excited for less so I'm not surprised at these reactions. It's like people expect others to not be excited for things because they aren't excited in the same way.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Hell yeah, this is the kind of expression that I love. You can just SENSE the feeling in his body, the way it should be.
SpiralZilla
Member
Saw the reveal trailer yesterday. I guess if Sonic and Snake made it, anything's possible.
Seven Force
Banned
I for one, can't stop smiling at the fact that Opening - Bombing Mission has been a part of two megaton game reveals in the span of a few months.
It's seriously the perfect track for reveals of this caliber.
It's seriously the perfect track for reveals of this caliber.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
It's perfect. It's so iconic, and there's nothing that comes close to sounding like it. FFVII's sound is so unique.
The Remake's trailer closed with it, and the Smash trailer opened with it.
LurkerPrime
Member
Just want to say how good Cloud looks in that trailer, technically and aesthetically; the alt costume is great, too.
Nintendo's handling of Smash's characters has always been phenomenal--first-party or otherwise--and it makes think it's one of the big reasons why the series' success has endured. It's one in a long line of reasons why Smash is such an awesome and indomitable franchise.
Me too; we should make reaction videos about it.
Nintendo's handling of Smash's characters has always been phenomenal--first-party or otherwise--and it makes think it's one of the big reasons why the series' success has endured. It's one in a long line of reasons why Smash is such an awesome and indomitable franchise.
Me too; we should make reaction videos about it.
The Real Napsta
Member
Isn't Cloud in all the kingdom hearts games for ds and 3ds?
nintendork666
Member
Yea, Theaterhythm too.
Tyraniboah
Member
Kudos to Nintendo for being able to surprise us all. I heard the music and my mouth dropped...followed by the most childlike grin of excitement I've had since...I was a child
Yes, however it is still surprising to see him in.
It's kind of a similar scenario to Snake in Brawl. The biggest difference being that there was no hints dropped about this. We knew the thing about Snake intended to be in Melee.
friskykillface
Banned
Same but that's the world we live in
Reaction vids are only cool when there's a huge audience freaking out
Idk man, just one person going omg is just meh , maybe because I don't know them
I didn't know it was cloud until the FFVII x smash screen popped up , I had N64 growing up and missed FFVII and can't play it cause it's dated as hell, I've tried 3 different times over the years
But cloud is god , all my ps friends growing up talked so much about him and FF7, I was jelly
I'm completely with you on this. If you're so much of a fan that Cloud in Smash makes you explode dramatically, but can't recognize Bombing Run, then that's preeeeeeetty fucking suspect. And it's not some obscure piece of musical trivia. It's incredibly iconic of FFVII and recently used in the FFVII-R announcement, so it's in recent memory to boot.
I've said this before but I didn't recognize the theme until around the time I saw "FF7," and I've played FF7. I don't really like FF7 very much though and think it's one of the weaker FF games, I just like the idea of Cloud being in Smash.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
My post is not saying people shouldn't be excited for Cloud in a Smash game - that's really good news! My post is specifically towards these reaction videos, where people are exploding out of joy when they obviously have no real affection towards the character(s) nor the game. You said it yourself, you don't like FFVII very much, which I can guarantee you is the reason why you didn't recognize the theme until the title was revealed. If the game was any special for you, you'd instantly recognize the game from the first couple of tunes. These people who record themselves show that they absolutely LOVE the game (hence the reaction), yet they can't even understand what it is (Metroid?! It's definitely Metroid!) until the logo shows up.
There's a big difference here between you and the people faking their reactions. Yours is reasonable, theirs aren't.
Genuine reactions are the absolute best, which is why I think Maximillian is the best. When FFVII:R was revealed, I was in literal denial for two or so weeks. I woke up almost every morning asking myself if the reveal really happened. During the actual reveal, I was spazzing out while I was bawling the crap out of my eyes, on top of my body suffocating myself because there was no room for breathing. Crazy? Yes. Passion and genuine? Yes.
Guys how cool is it that the FF7 music is ingrained in our generations memories moreso than these other tryhard kiddies AMIRITE!?
Didn't notice it in the first few notes? How lame, these guys aren't the real deal. Totally suspect gamers. You just aren't a real gamer, or a real fan of rpgs, or a real person if you don't instantly recognize the first notes of a tune you may not have heard for years and had no reason to suspect would be revealed for this particular game brehs. Your excitement is sooooo feigned.
Get on our level.
Didn't notice it in the first few notes? How lame, these guys aren't the real deal. Totally suspect gamers. You just aren't a real gamer, or a real fan of rpgs, or a real person if you don't instantly recognize the first notes of a tune you may not have heard for years and had no reason to suspect would be revealed for this particular game brehs. Your excitement is sooooo feigned.
Get on our level.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
That is exactly what I'm trying to say with my posts.
Wait, no it isn't. I couldn't be any more clear with my few posts, so I congratulate you on failing my utmost simple point.
chaobreaker
Member
You commented on how some of these reaction video had have people not recognizing the FF7 theme immediately whilst praising the sole example of someone doing exactly that. What else are you implying?
Oh, you mean like the Megaman Legacy Collection that came out for Wii U and is coming out on the 3DS alongside a Golden Mega Man amiibo?
The same Megaman Legacy Collection that featured in the most recent Nintendo Direct?!
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Do I have to repeat myself or is it some sort of language barrier hindering me from making a point here? Let me make this simple for you.
If you don't recognize the music or the fucking intro scene (both combined in this case), there is no fucking way you would gag out of excitement when the logo shows up. YOU MAY LIKE AND GET EXCITED OUT OF THE IDEA OF PLAYING CLOUD IN SMASH, but the extreme hyperbole that is being shown in some of these reaction videos - the same people who don't recognize the tune or the intro is clearly an indication of you just racking up the view-count and nothing else.
Scofield94941
Member
Ive played ffvii so many times and would listen to the soundtrack while sleeping for years and I guessed maybe it was final fantasy but your mind races waiting to see the logo. Cut them some slack for not knowing immediately
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
It really is crazy how this all ended up lol
Nah, it's a glorious announcement that people are happy about. We can't have that. Let's find something to be outraged about instead.
Shit is ridiculous, and trying to paint a hurdle for excitement to a logo, as being the recognition of an 18 year old tune is just so ridiculous that I cannot fathom anyone taking such a stance, let alone feeling comfortable enough to actually try to defend it.
A cool game is getting a cool character. Everything is great and you still have people being total sourpusses and fellating themselves for being 'real' fans unlike these posers who TOTALLY could not be as excited as they appear.
I can't...there really is a simpsons pic for everything.
Should be? There are fans of cloud who never played ff7. It's called successful marketing after square enix marketed the fuck out of him post ff7.
You can still be a true fan of cloud the character or even ff7 by what it spawned. So what if some folks didn't immediately recognize the music? Does that make their hype any less valid? People still like cloud after ff7. Thats just a testament to how strong ff7 is.
You can be hyped for something without ever playing the game or being an uber nerd about it.
I've never played halo for instance but I obviously know who master chief is and would be super hyped and shocked if he was announced for smash
entremet
Member
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Wow, you would throw trash around, scream from the bottom of your lungs and cry if you saw a character, from a game which you've never played, be announced for a fighting game? And in this case, every reaction video on Youtube who reacted in such a way feel the same way as you then. I mean, clearly they have no real affection towards FFVII per se but rather Cloud because he was the poster guy for an entire generation. People tell me I react strongly to announcements - but those announcements are usually strongly related to some game that I've previously played and loved. But today I learnt that people can get crazy, absolute batshit-insane over a reveal in which you have no real affections towards. Interesting, to say the least.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
We didn't know about that until after the Brawl announcement.