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COD:Ghosts PS4/XBO Comparisons show the same resolution (720p)?
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stop saying bs ...honey
velociraptor
Junior Member
Have you got a copy of the game on both systems?
Marauder Shields
Member
Dat strawman. Is anyone actually doing that in this thread?
but if is this is the case....why even bore to have that 1080p resolution ready if there are this fps issue..and then need to go to 720?
I don't think the ohter theories make practical sense. Unless the Elgato HD automatically upscales 720p output it captures to 1080p?
It certainly reduced input lag on PS3's Battlefield 3.
Yeah I really don't see what is unbelievable about a cross gen PC port running at different resolutions.
This entire thing is a mess. I used to kind of believe people where purposefully trying to minimize console differences but it seems like its more a case of incompetence.
Hey let's do a head to head! Ok I'll set one console for colorblind mode and one for 720p! Great job everyone.
wow...In case anyone missed it.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
But your opinion isn't valid, no. Read the OP again just to set you straight. The images you are comparing aren't representative of 1080p V 720p if the OP is right. Go to a comparison thread if you want to carry on doing this.
Quaz51 from B3D? If so, damn. IW half lied to us.
Obviously, it would be good to have clarification from Sony/Activision/IW, but till then (or a DF face-off), we don't have much else to go on.
Like I said, resolutions aren't this complicated thing, it's likely trivially easy to implement that into a console space, especially considering CoD has a PC port which supports changing resolutions already. And for what it's worth, I highly suspect the games we're seeing at launch are seriously skimping out on the QA process - just look at the BF4 hullabaloo.
Well, in the case of Call of Duty, it doesn't seem like that sort of problem. The drops appear to occur in isolated, quick bursts. It's not as if it runs below 60 fps for any length of time. I doubt dropping the resolution would solve the issue. Seems like something else is going on.
TheCanisDirus
Member
lol wut
maabus1999
Member
You know, IW screwed up the Wii U version compared to the other two, and PC is a mess, so what makes it out of this realm that the Next Gen versions are similiarly screwed up? Both could be lazy 720p ports.
IW probably just concentrated on the 360 then PS3 the way it is looking.
IW probably just concentrated on the 360 then PS3 the way it is looking.
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plagiarize
Banned
at this point, we don't know. we're waiting on someone who knows what the fuck they're looking at to confirm exactly what the situation is with this game.
since the first GAFfers are getting their system today (Taco Bell winners), we shouldn't have to wait too long.
IW didn't work on the Wii U version. That hot mess comes straight from Treyarch.
Infinity Ward...
plagiarize
Banned
I don't think he does yet. 'Ghosts seem'. It's his judgment based on what we know so far, at least, that's what I think he's saying.
Okay, well this is completely new information for me, kind of cool too. Thanks. If this is true then maybe the PS4's at the event really were set to push out only 720p, even though the game includes a 1080p resolution too.
Still, eagerly waiting what's the truth behind all of this.
You're making assumptions that there even is a major framerate issue. Thus far, only Polygon's review has stated that framerate is a significant hamper on gameplay on the PS4. Most other reviews state that the framerate dips are insignificant and occasional.
If the framerate drops are only occasional, and are in the 45-50fps range, then the average gamer would never even notice. Hence, the upgrade to 1080p resolution would be well worth the slight tradeoff in performance consistency.
If this is the Quaz51 from Beyond3d then I say we can take your word as gospel, either way, there's something fucked up in all of this, some thoughts:
-Activision has been lying for some unknown reason about the PS4 version's resolution.
-Gaming reviewers have been stupidly ignoring this.
-The direct feed capture equipment could have been set to 720p and 60fps as opposed to 1080p and 30 fps, to capture the framerate feel. Maybe video capturing equipment owners can shed a light on this.
Chobel
Member
Yeah, that I agree with, the resolution itself is not that hard to implement, but on pc there is no real target FPS for QA to test. For the console there is, and having two different resolution to test, it'd make it harder to test the target FPS. They'd have to make sure all QA consoles were set to 1080p as not to get strange results.
Might not be a big issue I suppose, but still.
Which makes me think, if people were running this on 720p on the PS4, not seeing any difference in the IQ with the Xbox One 720p, and still saying the PS4 had framerate issues, how would it even run on 1080p@60fps?
not taking sides on this, as I really don't care for CoD but the results do bring up many questions.
iJudged
Banned
Oh my, for me, loading those dang games from the cassettes and getting syntax error omg omg hehe but my real first experience that opened my eyes was Pong with those stick turn controllers, Aahh good memories. Probably the reason why I don't give 2 shits about these resolutions, all these games looks incredible on next gen, well all but few
Damn, Quaz is the OG pixel counter, so maybe we should pay attention.
maabus1999
Member
ERP on beyond3d is throwing some cold water on the "lower resolution in the PS4" theory.
Said it was a requirement for the PS3 to support 480p native (due to SD TV) but that is no longer the case with PS4. He did say the developer can do what they want, but it would mean more testing.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1805385&postcount=334
Said it was a requirement for the PS3 to support 480p native (due to SD TV) but that is no longer the case with PS4. He did say the developer can do what they want, but it would mean more testing.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1805385&postcount=334
As far as I see it there are only two possibilities.
1. Both Xbone version and PS4 version are running at native 720p upscaled to 1080p.
2. Changing your output settings on the console also changes the resolution of the software, in which case it is possible that who ever did this comparison did it on a 720p TV, which forced the PS4 and CoD Ghosts to output native 720p.
So which one is it?
Hopefully some website picks up on this and give us a real comparison.
1. Both Xbone version and PS4 version are running at native 720p upscaled to 1080p.
2. Changing your output settings on the console also changes the resolution of the software, in which case it is possible that who ever did this comparison did it on a 720p TV, which forced the PS4 and CoD Ghosts to output native 720p.
So which one is it?
Hopefully some website picks up on this and give us a real comparison.
Holy shit, is this THE famous OG pixel counter from Beyond3D???
I ignored this post because I thought it was just speculation from some random poster.
no just analyse on few videos, need confirmation with true captures and true games
maabus1999
Member
Yeah, I think the native 1080p is actually 1080p*
*only in multi-player.
I would take that post, if that is Quaz, as what the best guess is right now.
So GAF, you can get your pitchforks ready.
and for complicate the story IGN capture seem 1080i
WrathEater
Banned
We know both consoles output 1080P with the x1 version internally rendered at 720P and upscaled with dat super secret sauce scaler and the PS4 outputting at native 1080P.
Either both the x1 and PS4 have been set in the console settings to 720P output or the capture equipment automatically downscales to 720P but either way if the PS4 is the superior version we should still see differences when comparing the two versions.
Doesnt the fact that we dont see any difference suggest that both versions are the same?
twists and turns...
I hope you do an actual test of running the games in different resolutions, and report back with IQ and framerate. Is that in the works?
maabus1999
Member
Yeah, I think we have the answer in his post. IW told a "mostly false" or "half true" statement with 1080p comments, if you know the Politifact.com scale.
plagiarize
Banned
well, it still leaves a LOT to be desired in the review coverage. we've had people saying it looks the same and it doesn't. we've had people saying the framerate is worse in the PS4 version and people saying it's fine in both.
this would flip everything on it's head.
it would also be really bizarre for them to favour framerate in single player, and resolution in multiplayer. unless that framerate patch really does fix things there, and it's just been a fixable bug causing the issues on PS4.
SniperHunter
Banned
Woah what a disaster
Ahaha wow.
Can we have confirmation if this is him?
Wait wait wait...
So PS4 had a MORE stable framerate in SP and a less stable one in MP.
-.5 from Polygon! lol
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
The single player on PS4 might be 720p only?
Everything I believed in is a lie.
Everything I believed in is a lie.
Unless the QA process were seriously incompetent, I'd imagine they'd all just be testing to make sure 1080p was hitting its targets and not really worrying about lower resolutions besides "it doesn't find some way to crash" since it should simply follow that if the target FPS is being hit at 1080p (or hitting within some threshold of being "good enough"), then it'll be absolutely fine at lower resolutions.
Honestly, iunno lol. You can take a look at Brad Grenz's post for a theory, as well as another one from dark10x for some theories. Until we get a DF or some other proper comparison, there's really not much else to go on.
EDIT: Lots of folks looking at Quaz51's post so I guess that's something too.
Stop spreading FUD you fucking fanboy, goddamn MSgaf making bullshit up again.
Synless
Member
Why would they ever make the MP run at a higher resolution with a worse framerate? Why wouldn't you do that to the single player instead?
Pretty sure it is, he has posted here in the past.