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Colin Trevorrow Exits Episode 9

Killer Queen said:
Had JJ gotten more time on the script Starkiller base and other stuff probably wouldn't be in the movie. IIRC they were unhappy with that but they weren't going to get more time to work on it so they went ahead.
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That's unfortunate because really the whole second half of the film really soured me on it.

Blader said:
What a refreshing hot take!
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Nothing hot about it. Ep 7 had a ton of flaws and retreading a lot of Ep 4 was one of them.

Sorry if that upsets you.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
Did we? I honestly don't remember as I haven't have a deep discussion of that film since it released.

I posted a lot about story stuff (and what I thought would be cool in a sequel) for the first couple of months but not much more after that.
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I'm pretty sure but who knows. Years and years of discussions do tend to pile up.
 
Chindogg said:
Nothing hot about it. Ep 7 had a ton of flaws and retreading a lot of Ep 4 was one of them.

Sorry if that upsets you.
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Calling TFA an EP 4 ripoff has turned into an even bigger nostalgia act than the movie itself at this point. It's the JJ Abrams of SW thread posting. Come up with something new please.
 
opoth said:
Calling TFA an EP 4 ripoff has turned into an even bigger nostalgia act than the movie itself at this point. It's the JJ Abrams of SW thread posting. Come up with something new please.
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Ristifer said:
The hottest of takes.
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Normally I'd put something snarky down about how my comments were more original than Abrams' Ep 7 script but I think we've already gone down that route.

Complaining about someone pointing out how Ep 7 took a lot of the exact same beats as Ep 4 isn't going to erase the fact that Ep 7 took a lot of the exact same beats as Ep 4.

Would it make you feel better if I replaced Ep 4 with Star Trek?
 
Chindogg said:
Normally I'd put something snarky down about how my comments were more original than Abrams' Ep 7 script but I think we've already gone down that route.

Complaining about someone pointing out how Ep 7 took a lot of the exact same beats as Ep 4 isn't going to erase the fact that Ep 7 took a lot of the exact same beats as Ep 4.

Would it make you feel better if I replaced Ep 4 with Star Trek?
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It intentionally took a lot of beats from the entire OT. Maybe you missed some of them when you were scrambling to cook up your hot take that absolutely no one else has tried to make before.
 
Extra Sauce said:
The Book of Henry or How a Laughably Bad Movie Saved Star Wars
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Amazing how you could replace The Book of Henry with Fantastic Four and this joke would still ring true.

opoth said:
It intentionally took a lot of beats from the entire OT. Maybe you missed some of them when you were scrambling to cook up your hot take that absolutely no one else has tried to make before.
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Abrams Stans will never fail to amuse.
 
Chindogg said:
Normally I'd put something snarky down about how my comments were more original than Abrams' Ep 7 script but I think we've already gone down that route.

Complaining about someone pointing out how Ep 7 took a lot of the exact same beats as Ep 4 isn't going to erase the fact that Ep 7 took a lot of the exact same beats as Ep 4.

Would it make you feel better if I replaced Ep 4 with Star Trek?
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Literally every critic of the movie has done this already. That's why it's SO HOT.
 
WhiteRabbitEXE said:
I can't wait until the "JJ remade ANH" talking point is supplanted by "TLJ is way too different".
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And Mary Sue will be be replaced with that they made Rey too vulnerable I can see it now...seriously I just can't even with the stupid Force Awakens memes: it did something no one thought possible after the prequels it made the mass market care about Star Wars again. More to the point it made me care about a brand new set of characters instead of Luke, Han and Leia. Is it perfect? No but claiming it's a shit show or worse than Episode 1 because of Starkiller base is just the internet trying to be the snarky internet by parroting the same memes they picked up on Reddit.
 
BocoDragon said:
I think a lot of that has to do with how Hollywood has abandoned any pretense that these are standalone movies. They know the sequel is coming so they feel free to add hooks and dangling plot elements that they can figure out later.

I think it's a mistake, personally. I like when at least try to work like standalone films that just happen to connect. But I feel like they do this all over the place in today's industry... MCU, DCEU, etc. Makes it feel like TV.
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Pray do tell what movies in the MCU don't work as stand alone movies? Even the not-good MCU movies like Thor 2 are still things that work on their own. Civil War is kind of a culmination of a lot of things in the MCU, so that is one exception in some regards (though even then, it has its own separate conflict to handle) and of course sequels are always sequels that can't be completely divorced from what has come before & what can come afterwards, but otherwise these movies set up and resolve their own storylines.

Yeah, they drop in hints of what's to come, but all in all those rarely affect the stories. The worst it gets are singular somewhat disconnected throwaway scenes that are a bit heavy handed in world-building past the events of the movie, but those aren't all that numerous. Even huge deals like the infinity stones are used well within the context of the singular movies they are in instead of just being something that leads towards Infinity War.
 
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Dan Trachtenberg could be a good left-field pick. And it would never happen in a million years, but a part of me would love to see a Barry Jenkins-directed SW film.
 
Maybe they're having serious trouble writing it without Leia. I mean, they said they aren't changing EP 8. So what, there's a considerable time skip between Ep 8 & 9 and Leia dies off-screen? That's a really shitty situation they have there.
 
Chindogg said:
Amazing how you could replace The Book of Henry with Fantastic Four and this joke would still ring true.



Abrams Stans will never fail to amuse.
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Wait, didn't I just call your "Ep 7 is a remake of Ep 4" post the Abrams of SW thread posting - in case I have to spell it out for you, that likely means it's old and tired.

Not sure how such a statement makes me an "Abrams Stan". If anything, I had a lot of trepidation about him as director in the runup to the film but I think he mostly nailed it, with the help of a good script.

Left to his own devices, it probably would have been like Into Darkness.
 
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