But he wasn't censored. He said what he wanted and is rightfully receiving backlash for his disgusting view. Just because you get shat on for saying hateful trash doesn't mean you have been censored, it means you're being callled out for it
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Comedian guest on TheBreakfastClub Radio show says he'd kill a transgender person
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But he wasn't censored. He said what he wanted and is rightfully receiving backlash for his disgusting view. Just because you get shat on for saying hateful trash doesn't mean you have been censored, it means you're being callled out for it
WarLox didn't say it did. It's just the context of what was said.
If you're going to attack someone's statements attack what they said in context.
In context his comments are still disgusting.
Bits N Pieces
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Is "Wat Dat Mouf Do?" the equivalent of "You kiss your mother with that mouth?" for Americans or am I just really out of touch?
What is there to debate or say in response to: "I would kill you just for being who you are".
Also, freedom of speech =/= freedom of consequence.
shawnbuddy
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Never heard of this Lil Duval before, but he sounds like a real piece of shit.
Cesare Borgia
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TBC has been dropping the ball all year. Within the last couple months they've provided no pushback as guests peddled anti-vaxx bullshit (Tony Muhammad) as well as blatant racism (Dr Umar Johnson).
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Uhhhhh I think your out of touch lmao
That's supposed to be better?
shawnbuddy
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Also, censorship is not "disagreeing with assholes."
I watched the interview and he didn't sound like he was joking. Like, at all. He sounds like he's really afraid someone's who's really insecure about his masculinity and would go to the extremes (like killing people) to prove he's a "real man".
Plus he double down with this post on Instagram, comparing having sex with a transgender who didn't disclose their biological sex with rape ("if u can see why somebody would kill someone that rape them u should understand how a straight man feels") and calling transgender people "confused nigga bitches".
None of this sound like a joke to my ears.
I repeat what I said to rambis:
"So you're half-justifying a hypothetical trans panic defense by saying he was "baited" into it and that it shouldn't be taken seriously despite how often in the past people have gotten away with killing us because we're trans. Is that right?"
Bits N Pieces
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Haha, I thought they were saying "Watch that mouth though."
Ill leave this thread to kids on the street..... the kool kidz
It is referring to asking someone how good are they at performing oral sex.
Lil duval is ignorant trash, never found him funny tbh
Psychoward
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Are you fucking kidding
Bruce Springsteen
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lol, this isn't close to be true
TheLostBigBoss
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It doesn't have to make it better. Its just that factually, that is what happened during the interview. Im not sure why people think I'm advocating anything.
Not the first person to imply it was justified because of the hypothetical.
A shame that it's still pretty common to view us as less than human.
JoJoShabadoo
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Good post. This should go in the OP.
I never said he was being censored, people were asking why did they let this air, if you can't follow.
How does this change literally anything?
Darryl M R
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What was the reason for posting an irrelevant fact?
Once again what is achieved if the article left out Duval's morning meal and you posted about it?
This might be a learning opportunity for you to question your intentions and the harm of contextualizing violence.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I wasnt laughing at you. I was laughing because it's about oral sex, not about kissing your mother!Haha, I thought they were saying "Watch that mouth though."
Ill leave this thread to kids on the street..... the kool kidz
You think people are falling for this act?
kunonabi
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To be fair that's not an unreasonable position. Everything else out of his mouth is pure garbage though. Id hope that this incident would result in him getting fewer bookings but we'll see.
Gordon Shumway
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OOOH! 😐
....How. Is. It. Rape.
It's fucking insulting to even start to compare it to rape. Like, seriously, how? In what way is it comparable to the emotional and physical trauma of rape? In what way are trans individuals forcibly abusing others?
And this is a guy who apparently started a meme called "it ain't rape".
But you said this;
The OP is the only person before that who'd asked why they'd give him a platform. That isn't saying "they should censor him" - The post I replied to is basically saying speech is a two way thing, so he shouldn't be censored, which he wasn't.
Semantics aside, you're pretty clearly stanning for him with the "he was baited" into it lines. Just an FYI, just because he was "baited" doesn't change the fact his views are abhorrent and he definitely deserves every ounce of shit thrown at him.
Nah BC stay doing this shit on top of giving platforms to the worse of the worse. And Charlemagne using it to push his Diet Hotep brand
Dude Abides
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Is it Lil' as in little or Lil as in Lily?
You are going to have to expand upon that in order to keep it from sounding incredibly ignorant. How is it remotely even adjacent to rape?
Darryl M R
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And with this Im out.
I watched the interview before this acticle was posted. The article claims that the comedian said if he met a trans person he would would kill them.
As someone who has seen the interview, i said factually this is not correct, that is not what he said. Now all of a sudden im being accuse of supporting or defending violence against trans people.
Again. That is a serious and dangerous claim to make against someone.
Saying that an article left out facts about an interview in no way supports violence against trans people.
Everyone have a good day. I can no longer be a part of this conversation.
The only way that statement makes any sense is if you assume that trans women are men and you got "tricked" into having "gay" sex and even then it's a stupid comparison. Literally everything he's said on the matter has been wildly transphobic.
Little as what his career been since comicview was canceled
I see what you mean. I agree that it would be better to be upfront and not lie. But I guess sometimes it takes time and trust to even talk about it.
But in my opinion, comparing it to rape is debatable though.
OG Shaka Zulu
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I don't even know who Lil Duval is. I googled image him and he just looks like a twerp.
Was the Janet Mock interview respectful? And what were the hosts' immediate reaction to Duval's comment?
Was the Janet Mock interview respectful? And what were the hosts' immediate reaction to Duval's comment?
Darryl M R
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To be honest you haven't done much conversing at all so your actions seem quite transparent.
Because the person would not have consented if they knew the truth. I can understand the comparison
The idea is that its rape by omission. That is used like with STD's where you're unaware of the circumstances and it affects you in some way that you normally wouldn't agree to.
Its frankly bullshit that anyone thinks it applies to trans people. Suddenly knowing you had sex with a trans person change the situation in any way for you
old manatee
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What a funny comedian. A laugh riot. A real sidesplitter. Golly gee my cheeks hurt.
Gordon Shumway
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Lily, obviously..
What a profoundly stupid thing to say. No one is trying to censor them. People are expressing thenselves... hence the outrage. Should people censor themselves just because you don't get their outrage? Where is the line drawn and who decided on it?
Maybe you thought murdering people was a joke...
Isn't it sex by deception instead? I read that somewhere. Maybe here some other thread.
Just watched the clip and it's 'funny' because he immediately jumps to the "I'm gay now, you manipulated me" defense on the show right after saying it. Basically reinforcing that he feels he is tricked/gay now for having sex with a transwoman.
What's the deception?
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