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Confirmed: Haze Never Coming Out on Xbox 360

deepbrown said:
But then you get stories like this. http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-123940.aspx LOL The trolling on Haze continues. "Haze only 30fps"

I thik I missed the "Bioshock only 30fps" or the "Uncharted only 30fps second" or the "Mass Effect only 30 fps".... WTF
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You're linking to N4G which is linking to a shitty, poorly designed Freewebs site.

It's N4G, shithole of the gaming universe. How and why anyone cares about that site is beyond me.
 
Duck said:
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You're linking to N4G which is linking to a shitty, poorly designed Freewebs site.

It's N4G, shithole of the gaming universe. How and why anyone cares about that site is beyond me.
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I used to bring that site a shit load of exclusive news. It gets a lot of relevant and good news before most places. If you're trying to say that story is any worse than what's said in this thread....then you'll fail.
 
isnt N4G basically like GAF? user created news articles and a place to discuss?

dont know why some gaffers feel so high and mighty that they can post here when we have threads like "why wont GTA4 get a 10?!" i love gaf, but that doesnt mean i have to hate everywhere else.
 
Ashhong said:
isnt N4G basically like GAF? user created news articles and a place to discuss?

dont know why some gaffers feel so high and mighty that they can post here when we have threads like "why wont GTA4 get a 10?!" i love gaf, but that doesnt mean i have to hate everywhere else.
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GAF definitely has its stinkers, but not nearly as many as you'll see at N4G, IMO. Don't get me wrong, it can be pretty nice and useful at times... but I swear to God, half its news stories come from no-name blogs. There's a reason why rumors from gameguru.in spawned three different threads here.

But that's just me, so take my opinion at face value.

EDIT: Go ahead and ignore this, I'm looking through the MGS4/GTA4 review thread and I'm like D:.
 
The-Switcher said:
I think we can still assume it will make it out on 360, once the PS3 version sells 70,000 copies.
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Ajax said:
No way. The PS3 fanbase has far less insane zealots that will for example make a 10 page thread full with trolling and FUD because the game discussed in there is exclusive to another console. I don't know how Microsoft did it but they managed to create the most obnoxious fanbase in the history of videogames, maybe it's all the losers still loyal to old Sega that jumped to the first Xbox.

This thread is a disgrace to anyone who identifies himself as a 360 fan and for a change maybe the 360 fanbase should stop defending these morons and start rejecting them.
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So this is cool, and this is a permaban:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8786432&postcount=2857

OK
 
Ajax said:
The reason why you follow me with your stupid list in every thread when I rarely post is because you know you're one of those losers I'm suggesting the 360 fanbase should reject and you're probably offended. I'm not going to waste my time making lists like you, all someone needs to read to see what kind of poster you are is this.
It's got all the fanboy delusions GAF can handle and then some more. The ownage served to you is pretty sweet too.
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Sorry, but you're just as biased as those people you're whining about.
 
Hm...maybe we can talk about some impressions then.

The fact that the Mantel PMC in Haze pushes Nectar onto its soldiers as an enhancing drug is well known. It sounds simple enough, but the allegory here is relevant to war veterans who were fed drugs to make them fearless and unquestioning; because Nectar, as it turns out, is both a blessing and a curse.
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In the second part of the game you realise that Mantel isn’t a particularly ethical employer and quit the force to join the rebels. You see, Nectar distorts the reality around you so much that it hides dead bodies and blood from view.
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The stories going to be good - it attracts me unlike the story of say Halo, Rainbow Six, Unreal Tournament...etc

Just to prove the point of how essential it is, you can even siphon more off from other members of your squad.
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Nectar is cool.

We thought it would be fine if we just stayed in cover – and we were - but the Promised Hand rebels have an unnerving knack of hitting your team mates’ packs, which means that they go into a blind rage. And I don’t mean they stand still and fire blindly – they pursue with intent. That killed us far more frequently than the rebels themselves.
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That makes it more interesting.

But for all its illusionary properties, Nectar can’t change the way you see Haze, because it looks graphically average. One look at the wall textures will tell you that. Likewise the heated flamethrower death was more reminiscent of a stream of crepe paper. Naturally since this is not the final build, improvements here can be expected. Oh and the framerate, it’s a solid 30fps, with narry a drop below.

Meanwhile, the environments are selectively destructible. In one underground complex we were able to shoot a fire extinguisher clean off a wall, but we were damned if we could make the thing leak.
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deepbrown said:
The stories going to be good - it attracts me unlike the story of say Halo.
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*sigh*

We thought it would be fine if we just stayed in cover – and we were - but the Promised Hand rebels have an unnerving knack of hitting your team mates’ packs, which means that they go into a blind rage. And I don’t mean they stand still and fire blindly – they pursue with intent. That killed us far more frequently than the rebels themselves.
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I've known about this for a while, but if it happens too frequently it has the possibility to be the most annoying thing in the game. By a far margin.
 
so, now that it's exclusive, would Haze be PS3's equivalent Too Human? You know, some will anticipate it, list it as a "must have PS3 game of '08" and many will WTF, in the same way people do/have done with Too Human...
 
deepbrown said:
I used to bring that site a shit load of exclusive news. It gets a lot of relevant and good news before most places. If you're trying to say that story is any worse than what's said in this thread....then you'll fail.
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go back. please.
 
deepbrown said:
WHy is that a sigh? I like politics of war.
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Because you could've totally made your point without throwing in Halo, or any other big game, to use as contrast. Forced hype comparisons (by devs and others) to already established huge titles is part of what made the game get as much ridicule as it has.
 
Well thanks to this thread I WILL be purchasing my first PS3 game (owned since Nov 07, rented Uncharted + Ratchet), Haze.

Game sounds awesome.
 
deepbrown said:
OK sure. I'll go back, we can leave this thread to be about how Haze crap with noone here who's actually played it. COol with me. You prefer trolls then?
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this place would be a lot better place without both the trolls and the ridiculous rah-rah fanboys like you, who make it impossible to carry on any sort of real critical discussion of any game they're a fan of.

By the way - how come you never posted in any of the Haze threads before this one? Wanted to wait until it was a sure win before you started to cheer it on?
 
Brashnir said:
this place would be a lot better place without both the trolls and the ridiculous rah-rah fanboys like you, who make it impossible to carry on any sort of real critical discussion of any game they're a fan of.

By the way - how come you never posted in any of the Haze threads before this one? Wanted to wait until it was a sure win before you started to cheer it on?
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Huh what? I'm not cheering. I've given my impressions = good and bad. Where am I screaming like a fanboy? Surprisingly I've only just played Haze...

I'm not a "fan" of Haze, and I'm trying to promote discussion - not end it. I'm not quite sure why you're calling me a "ridiculous fanboy".
 
raYne said:
Because you could've totally made your point without throwing in Halo, or any other big game, to use as contrast. Forced hype comparisons (by devs and others) to already established huge titles is part of what made the game get as much ridicule as it has.
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Comparisons are the course in all academic study. I'm happy to add some other games in there to make it less suceptable to the insecure if you like.
 
hmm from http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-123940.aspx

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I did not mean to make the game sound bad 30 fps is fine with me but when it drops to 20's when explosions happen this is not very good for one of the most anticipated games of 08. The game play was very good as I have not disputed.

Sound pretty crappy if that is the case...

Less than 30 fps in any shooter sucks and pretty much ruins the game for me
 
deepbrown said:
Comparisons are the course in all academic study. I'm happy to add some other games in there to make it less suceptable to the insecure if you like.
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Ya, but you're you. So sadly, some people aren't exactly going to take it as a passing remark.

Again, the last thing it needs is more hype thrust upon it. Just let it stand on it's own via impressions instead of the, "it does this better than >insert huge title<" lines.

SpokkX said:
Less than 30 fps in any shooter sucks and pretty much ruins the game for me
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You must hate a lot of games then.
 
SpokkX said:
hmm from http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-123940.aspx

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I did not mean to make the game sound bad 30 fps is fine with me but when it drops to 20's when explosions happen this is not very good for one of the most anticipated games of 08. The game play was very good as I have not disputed.

Sound pretty crappy if that is the case...

Less than 30 fps in any shooter sucks and pretty much ruins the game for me
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It doesn't. It drops to 29fps. He has no idea what he's talking about.

"Loudninja:
deepbrown,was the framerate solid?
Deep:
Yes. Narry a drop below 30fps....in fact you could see the framerate on it. No higher than 32fps, never below 29fps. I expect they'll easily get it locked for release."

Moreover, look at how the original story has been completely edited to save his bacon:

While playing Haze at Play.com Live yesterday I noticed in the bottom right corner that the Frames Per Second were only 30. I thought that this was weird as some other games play around 60 now such as COD 4 . This no moan though as the gameplay was excellent and look very smooth:
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:lol

raYne said:
Ya, but you're you. So sadly, some people aren't exactly going to take it as a passing remark.

Again, the last thing it needs is more hype thrust upon it. Just let it stand on it's own via impressions instead of the, "it does this better than >insert huge title<" lines.
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I didn't say it's better than Halo, I said I preffered the story and themes more....me. What the hell is happening here!? And what's this all about "but you're you."??
 
deepbrown said:
I didn't say it's better than Halo, I said I preffered the story and themes more....me. What the hell is happening here!?
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I said "does this" better, not is better.

..and I'm using it as a broadstroke among all comparisons, not just yours.
 
raYne said:
I said "does this" better, not is better.

..and I'm using it as a broadstroke among all comparisons, not just yours.
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And I didn't say it "does story better" either. I meant that I preffered a deep political/philosophical story.
 
deepbrown said:
OK sure. I'll go back, we can leave this thread to be about how Haze crap with noone here who's actually played it. COol with me. You prefer trolls then?
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I've played it and didnt like it too much. Can i not stay either? :(
 
raYne said:
What? Did the latter section of the reply and the "..." not tell you the first part was sarcasm?
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The lack of [sarcasm][/sarcasm] around it? And the fact you gave me a hard time for no reason?

Son of Godzilla said:
So you admit to filling this thread with meaningless rabble?
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I can look at things from an objective point of view - but in the end what I say about me preferring a story to another is completely subjective. Most of what I said has been facts about the game, with suggestions of "I think this is good" or "this is bad"

Eg. i think the Nectar powers are really cool, but that the graphics are average.

fanboi said:
deepbrown:

Is there something about the game that was like "Hey thats really cool" that no one has mentioned?
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Umm...rebels can dip their knives in Nectar and throw them (that's been said, but still cool)

When rebels are dead they disappear (slight mockery of disappearing dead bodies in games? lol) but this is due to nectar removing the horrors of war. Rebels take advantage of this by playing dead, so they disappear and so people jump out of nowhere shooting at you. You prob knew this already too...
 
deepbrown said:
The lack of [sarcasm][/sarcasm] around it? And the fact you gave me a hard time for no reason?
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We have to actually sarcasm tag stuff now? Wow.

As for me giving you a hard time, all I said was that it was similar to the way the game (well, the devs) already dug a hole for itself. And it's in the game's best interests not to do so.

MMaRsu said:
raYne stop giving these guys such a hard time :lol
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Dude, it's like I'm in the Twilight Zone. I'm saying obvious things and people are oblivious to what I'm talking about. But fine, I'm done.

So.. hows about that Haze?
 
MrNyarlathotep said:
Funny, because thats what most PC owners think of Halo.

On the other hand the Timesplitters games were a hoot.
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Really? Lets see how stupid you are for saying what you just did:

Archaic controls - Now how could PC players claim the Halo controls were archaic? Yes they can call them shit in comparison to the mouse and keyboard but they can't say they relied on a system invented for a controller that only had one analog stick ala timesplitters. Left stick move, right stick aim, simple.

Idiotic A.I. - Did PC gamers really go on about the A.I. being terrible in Halo at the time of it's release, was there much better on the market? Timesplitters A.I. on the other hand consisted of stand still and shoot or run at you and shoot whilst occasionally rolling.

Dull level design - The whole game consisted of design straight out of GE, all corridors and the occasional open field. There wasn't the likes of tactical cover or areas built for amazing set pieces, it sucked.
 
For what it's worth, deepbrown, I appreciate you sharing your impressions.

I was never getting this game for graphics. I am getting it because, well....Free Radical.
 
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