From what you're describing it sounds to me like you played it mostly in handheld mode.
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Confirmed: The Nintendo Switch is powered by an Nvidia Tegra X1
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From what you're describing it sounds to me like you played it mostly in handheld mode.
Night Angel
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Lucky you. It happens to me at least once every 30 minutes or so, sometimes more often (every few minutes) depending on what area I'm in.
BOTW does not run well as an experience in docked mode. Nintendo should have reduced some effects to ensure stable frame rates. Instead it turns into a chugfest entirely too often for my tastes. Games are always developed for the hardware they are on. They missed the mark.
Even with the same base tech, they do fundamentally different things. Obviously, the Shield itself is a plug in device and has all the PC/android like use cases that happens to be tailored more towards gaming. The Switch, meanwhile, has a screen, controllers, huge battery, etc etc etc. I mean, that's where the extra $100 comes in.
Obviously, there is a lot ot consider there in terms of value, but one aspect the Switch undoubtly might have an advantage in over a standard X1 Shield is the fact the Shield is a bit of an all in one device, versus a Switch, which currently is just for playing games. So, the OS and everything may be lighter, freeing up more resources for gaming purposes.
Well Nvidia sees this as a long term partnership so...yes?
Obviously. The upgrade path for Switch 2/3/4 is there, very clearly. Can even see the Switch going the mobile phone route (or hell, I guess the Scorpio/Pro route). Every three years, here's the new model.
Night Angel
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But is it an unprecedented partnership?
And will cost 2.5x more and still have worse looking games.
MisterR
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It chugs pretty frequently for me. I am playing almost exclusively docked.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Would have been sweet if they offered the add on from their patents that would allow some additional horsepower in dock.
Omg! This is amazing lol
There's more here on the specific time frame that GameCube's GPU was designed.
Note: At the time of this interview, ATI had already bought ArtX.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2001/10/30/ati-discusses-gamecube-graphics
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Using bluetooth during flight sounds like breaking the rules.
Shhhhhh !! Traitor
FPS murderer
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Maybe he's talking about Shield TV's?
Polygonal_Sprite
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Holy shit lol!
airmangataosenai
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A Wii U game in portable mode is in no way impressive in 2017. Nintendo just has no competition anymore in the portable space so we lack a frame of reference to compare the hardware to. Many cell phones are much more powerful than the Switch but the issue is with the busget on cell phone games.
A 200 GFlop handheld is absolutely impressive in 2017. I mean, if Sony made a Vita 2, do you think it would be significantly more powerful than that?
eighty(one)
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The Vita even had VRAM, does the switch possess this as well?
If not, why?!?
If not, why?!?
airmangataosenai
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Id say yes, that would be a safe bet in that alternate universe considering they released a 50 something GFlop handheld in 2011.
So how does the Vita's VRAM bandwidth compare to 64-bit LPDDR4?
AetherZX
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Vita's clocks didn't peg it anywhere close to 50 gflops.
Sora the Cat
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It doesn't have vram, nor ram. Switch just works.
dottme
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Using bluetooth during flight sounds like breaking the rules.
You know that you can use wifi during flight now. If you want to pay a lot.
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/wifi/default.aspx
MadJackChurchill
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Is it the Shield TV? If it is, fair enough. But also consider that you're getting exclusive softwarefor it. Also portable.
If it's the Shield Tablet, then it's far outpowered by the Switch. That CPU is a K1, 32-bit quad core.
There is nothing more powerful than the Tegra X1 other than the just released Tegra TX2.
HammerOfThor
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So in terms of power, is it closer to the Wii U or PS4/One?
Gotdatmoney
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Lol no they didn't.
DeuceGamer
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Doesn't the Tegra TX2 consume too much power and would eat through batteries?
TX2 Low power Mode would be slightly better than X1 but the high power mode would be worse and result in lower battery life for the sake of more performance
Though, the shield is more than 10 days old.
In the middle.
I'm pretty sure the A9X cleaned house.
Try 1/3 of that number for Vita's real-world performance.
20cent
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I think that already happened on release day of the Switch.
JaseMath
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Because Apple licenses its tech all the time for applications other than their own.
metalslimer
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Dear lord, what chip is significantly more powerful? The truth is that the only reason people are shitting on the Switch's graphics is because they aren't good for a home console. If this was purely marketed as a 3ds successor it would be seen in a much different light.
Custom chip would be cool like 4x A57's + dual GPU 2x256 Cuda cores.Then again it would probably hit power limits.
I never bought main Nintendo consoles except a DSi and a New 3DS Xl both for my cousins.
I'm itching to play Zelda but i won't buy a Switch just for that,before all this my dream about Switch was a console that can capable of playing AAA multiplatform games like proper FIFA on the go maybe CoD,Dirt games like Firewatch etc.I don't think it's impossible,not with Tegra X1 yes but i think something like dual X1 (not necessarly dual X1 but modern chip that can deliver at least a flops.)
720p - PC Low/Mid settings FIFA or CoD is not the most taxing gamesin the world.
I never bought main Nintendo consoles except a DSi and a New 3DS Xl both for my cousins.
I'm itching to play Zelda but i won't buy a Switch just for that,before all this my dream about Switch was a console that can capable of playing AAA multiplatform games like proper FIFA on the go maybe CoD,Dirt games like Firewatch etc.I don't think it's impossible,not with Tegra X1 yes but i think something like dual X1 (not necessarly dual X1 but modern chip that can deliver at least a flops.)
720p - PC Low/Mid settings FIFA or CoD is not the most taxing gamesin the world.
whyreggielie
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I think I just read that the Switch is like 10 times more powerful than an iPad? So no, I think you're wrong. Also, theres much more inside this little tablet than just a GPU.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ninte...vbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjM2MjNfMQRzZWMDc3I-
EDIT: The source article.
http://mindtribe.com/2017/03/nintendos-hardware-dna-a-switch-teardown/
Mr. Pointy
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Apart from the automotive version, TX2 is only on a Jetson devkit at the moment, right?
Yeah and it only just started shipping to developers who want it yesterday. So its not even close to widespread
Polygonal_Sprite
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Vita GPU is closer to 15Gflops. Switch in mobile mode is a massive leap over Vita and a gargantuan leap over 3DS.
Tinúviel;232152928 said:Custom chip would be cool like 4x A57's + dual GPU 2x256 Cuda cores.Then again it would probably hit power limits.
I never bought main Nintendo consoles except a DSi and a New 3DS Xl both for my cousins.
I'm itching to play Zelda but i won't buy a Switch just for that,before all this my dream about Switch was a console that can capable of playing AAA multiplatform games like proper FIFA on the go maybe CoD,Dirt games like Firewatch etc.I don't think it's impossible,not with Tegra X1 yes but i think something like dual X1 (not necessarly dual X1 but modern chip that can deliver at least a flops.)
720p - PC Low/Mid settings FIFA or CoD is not the most taxing gamesin the world.
You wouldn't get 3rd party anyway, that experiment died with the Wii U. They don't sell, the audience for them is already elsewhere.
Switch is about Nintendo consolidating development behind one platform because they know they have to support it themselves. Other smaller 3rd party titles may follow, as well as exceptions like Monster Hunter, but this is a Nintendo platform built to do what Nintendo wants and sell it as something distinctive to the public.
And so far, issues with scratching and joycons aside, I think they've got it right.
Minsc
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It's funny seeing people trying to reason a Vita as being only a bit behind the Switch. They're really, really far apart from my experiences (I own both). Vita was, and still is a nice portable, but next to the Switch, it just feels really dated (basically like a PSP next to the Vita I guess). Putting the Switch next to an iPhone 7 (or whatever is the fastest phone that costs 2.5x more than the Switch) doesn't have the same effect, the Switch doesn't feel dated at all, nor will it compared to next year's phones, or the year after. The way the switch makes it so simple to swap playing on portable and a TV/Monitor really brings something I feel no other portable has to the gaming experience.
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