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Costume pics for Burtons failed SUPERMAN LIVES film
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PhoncipleBone
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I would call "Ed Wood" a normal movie. It's subject matter is definitely weird, but it is probably Burton's most normal and straightforward film. And one of his best.I <3 Memes said:
PhoncipleBone
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Christopher Lee as Perry WhiteMedalion said:
Paul Ruebens as Jimmy Olson
PhoncipleBone
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Thank you.Whimsical Phil said:
And screw the haters, "Edward Scissorhands" is a fantastic movie. Or perhaps I am too in love with the absolutely perfect score for the film to rationally think about the film. That film could have no dialogue and only the score and I would love it.
And for "Sleepy Hollow." it may not be a great film, but it is gorgeous to look at. One of the best looking films in Burton's filmography. Great costume and set design, and wonderful cinematography.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Ah Tim Burton's Hollywood's most overrated set designer. :lol
Anticitizen One
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I don't know why your all talking shit about the costume. It is the same costume he wore in the comics when he came back from the dead. Tim Burton's movie was going to be heavily influenced by death of superman saga.
PhoncipleBone
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Anticitizen One said:
VS.
Not similar at all except that they feature an "S" logo.
TheKaeptain
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That shit on the first page is nothing like Supes post death uniform.Anticitizen One said:
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
It actually does look a lot like Superman Red and Blue.PhoncipleBone said:
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/multimedia/Wallpaper-Images2/mbailey-bluered-tb.html
PhoncipleBone
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Still a ways after he was back from the dead.Freshmaker said:
Count Dookkake
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Kinda reminds me of the old Sectaur toys.
Would have liked to have seen this movie happen. As nutty as it looks, at least it wouldn't be Schumacher poo.
Would have liked to have seen this movie happen. As nutty as it looks, at least it wouldn't be Schumacher poo.
Verhoeven should make a Superman movie.
Maybe a Bizarro movie.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Yeah, but it was still a result of the back from the dead storyline. Eradicator powered up Supes while fighting Henshaw, but Supes lost his limiter on solar energy absorption ultimately turning into an a pair of energy beings as a result etc.PhoncipleBone said:
Would've cross promoted well with Pepsi...
Templar Wizard
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Its crazy that you are all hating on one piece of a total costume with no idea of the whole concept. and that fact that comic nerds rag on him 'because he only has entry level knowledge on the comic book'.
the movie was going to be dark, not superman flying around in blue skies chasing guys
who steal cats.
looks about 10000000000000x better than Returns, which was HORRIBLE.
the movie was going to be dark, not superman flying around in blue skies chasing guys
who steal cats.
looks about 10000000000000x better than Returns, which was HORRIBLE.
Buckethead
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Templar Wizard said:
No we're hating on:
1. Tim Burton's lack of talent and ability to film a Superman movie
2. 90s special effects
3. The casting choice of Nicolas Cage
4. Leaked (at one point) plot points
5. Changing an iconic outfit
Templar Wizard said:Its crazy that you are all hating on one piece of a total costume with no idea of the whole concept. and that fact that comic nerds rag on him 'because he only has entry level knowledge on the comic book'.
the movie was going to be dark, not superman flying around in blue skies chasing guys
who steal cats.
looks about 10000000000000x better than Returns, which was HORRIBLE.
It would have been TERRIBLE and anything but dark. The villain was going to have a "gay R2-D2 with attitude" and a cuddly sidekick. It was being made as a vehicle for toys and merchandise. The producer, Jon Peters, the one Kevin Smith ragged on, would bring in kids to look at the concept art to see how likely they were to want toys made from it. Tim Burton has called it one of the worst periods of his life:
BigJonsson
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I want my GIANT SPIDER
TheKaeptain
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1ST:Templar Wizard said:
It would have looked dark. Nothing about TIM Burton movies are dark outside of the color palette and the bags under Johnny Depp's eyes.
2nd:
No way it would have been better than Returns.
Discotheque
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Can't believe Guillermo just got dropped in here. That hack shouldn't be put anywhere near Burton. Yes....I just said that. Yes I'm calling somebody else a hack whilst praising Burton.
Call me when Del Toro makes something with an ounce of as much heart as Ed Wood or Big Fish.
Note: Pan's Labyrinth sucked.
Yeah sure some people would be laughing if this film was made, but it beats yawning like I did during much of Returns and that Hulk reboot. That creeping on little Superboy shit was pretty annoying
Call me when Del Toro makes something with an ounce of as much heart as Ed Wood or Big Fish.
Note: Pan's Labyrinth sucked.
Yeah sure some people would be laughing if this film was made, but it beats yawning like I did during much of Returns and that Hulk reboot. That creeping on little Superboy shit was pretty annoying
Discotheque
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I don't want it to get that real though because I'm going to sleep. Like a 5 year old I need my nap after that tantrum.
People are a bit too focused on Burton's crap remakes/design choices that it's clouding their judgement of his great films. Ed Wood is so good. So good brah.
People are a bit too focused on Burton's crap remakes/design choices that it's clouding their judgement of his great films. Ed Wood is so good. So good brah.
JimiNutz
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Discotheque said:
I'm cool with you defending Burton or whatever.
I dont really like anything he's done recently, but I suppose he was kinda cool back in the 90s when I was a child/teenager and I though his whole gothic twist was unique and interesting. Yes Ed Wood is a good movie too.
Saying 'Pan's Labyrinth sucked' though is, well....What didn't you like about it? :lol
JimiNutz
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zoukka said:
Better than Bay and Snyder yes, but Singer?
Automatically wins with this...
Plus X1 and X2 weren't too shabby. I'd rather watch them than Batman or Batman Returns.
Superman Returns was beautifully shot as well, casting choices and a boring story/script killed that movie in my opinion.
Joel Was Right
If you smell burning, it's probably the generators acting up. Report it anyway.
Makes me appreciate the costume in SR. It got undeserved hate. But then again, a Superman costume will always be contentious
JzeroT1437
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Templar Wizard said:Its crazy that you are all hating on one piece of a total costume with no idea of the whole concept. and that fact that comic nerds rag on him 'because he only has entry level knowledge on the comic book'.
the movie was going to be dark, not superman flying around in blue skies chasing guys
who steal cats.
looks about 10000000000000x better than Returns, which was HORRIBLE.
Superman isn't dark. Not everything needs to be dark. If dark doesn't jive with the general motif, then it's stupid and lame.
Combichristoffersen
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Ajemsuhgao
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JzeroT1437 said:
And I actually enjoyed Burton's Alice in Wonderland.
But then again, I generally love anything having to do with Alice :lol
Aaaaaand, I'm a fan of Burton.
I didn't really care for the Batman movies he did, but I liked the art. That's usually how it is with most of his movie. I like the art, and the movie itself is...okay. Save for a select few which I genuinely enjoy.
JimiNutz
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zoukka said:
That's fair enough.
I loved The Usual Suspects, and still do. It's all personal preference though. One thing I will say is that I think it's a little unfair to group Singer in with Bay or Snyder.
As for the X-Men movies, I do think they were slightly overrated, and part of me understands when the comic book fan complains that they're not 'X-Men' stories but 'Wolverine and friends' stories. If that is your complain though, and it may not be I'm just assuming that it is, then it isnt really valid when assessing their quality as films. Regardless of their authenticity to the source material, they are still good movies in their own right. Good stories generally need a central protagonist (not necessarily always, but generally). In this instance they chose the Logan character (a good choice in my opinion), yet still managed to achieve a balance by giving the support characters enough screen time to be relevant in the narrative.
I think the general consensus is that X-Men 1+2 are good films, and as stated I would rather watch either one over Burtons Batman films. I would certainly rather watch them over Bays Transformer movies, or Snyders Watchmen/300.
Sapiens
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Can we all agree that most of these superhero films age terribly?
Batman 89 aged horribly by the time Batman Returns released in 1992. And while Returns held up, especially against Forever and Robin, it's now hard to watch, especially with all the penguin shit everywhere.
Batman Begins is incredibly corny. TDK is great, but the corniness remains (the two guido kids making *pew*pew* sounds?).
Superman is now terrible beyond belief.
I could keep going, but you see the point. A lot of these superhero films are not designed as art at all. They are designed as the centrepiece of a marketing machine. And when that happens, you get films that seem cutting edge at first, but look dated against the new model.
I mean, how amazing did IronMan seem when it first came out? Now, I can't even be bothered to get past the first 20 minutes. People LOVED Transformers 1 and 2, as well (but they're fucking terrible and the fans of these films even complain about them).
I'm sure if Superman Lives came out, it would have been seen as cutting edge and everyone would have loved it. And it would have aged terribly, judging by the very 1997 look of the transparent plastic that was all the rage back then.
The reason why Superman Returns seemed boring, dated and uncohesive, was because it was based on a 30 year old film franchise, and was not it's own new thing.
Conclusion - just like TDK make BB look dated only after three years, TDKR will do the same to TDK.
And I'm saying that as a big fan of TDK and Nolan. These films are simply not designed to stand the test of time.
Batman 89 aged horribly by the time Batman Returns released in 1992. And while Returns held up, especially against Forever and Robin, it's now hard to watch, especially with all the penguin shit everywhere.
Batman Begins is incredibly corny. TDK is great, but the corniness remains (the two guido kids making *pew*pew* sounds?).
Superman is now terrible beyond belief.
I could keep going, but you see the point. A lot of these superhero films are not designed as art at all. They are designed as the centrepiece of a marketing machine. And when that happens, you get films that seem cutting edge at first, but look dated against the new model.
I mean, how amazing did IronMan seem when it first came out? Now, I can't even be bothered to get past the first 20 minutes. People LOVED Transformers 1 and 2, as well (but they're fucking terrible and the fans of these films even complain about them).
I'm sure if Superman Lives came out, it would have been seen as cutting edge and everyone would have loved it. And it would have aged terribly, judging by the very 1997 look of the transparent plastic that was all the rage back then.
The reason why Superman Returns seemed boring, dated and uncohesive, was because it was based on a 30 year old film franchise, and was not it's own new thing.
Conclusion - just like TDK make BB look dated only after three years, TDKR will do the same to TDK.
And I'm saying that as a big fan of TDK and Nolan. These films are simply not designed to stand the test of time.
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