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Crash and Spyro PS1 games (EDIT: and others) may now be downloaded to American Vitas.
- Thread starter jackissocool
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Downloading at the speed of light!
You must be fun at parties.
I've had it on my Vita for almost a year now. You're good!
Coolbgdog12
Member
Update imminent for firmware that removes compatible PS1 titles for stability purposes.
BONKERS
Member
Another inherently fucked up flaw with an all digital future. Sony should just release an APP for the PS3/PS4 that lets you convert your Actual PS1 discs into usable Eboots for PS3/PSP/PSV. If the game doesn't work with emulation, oh well. (Might as well include an option for the different PoPs versions too as some games may work better on one than another)
Not like every PS1 game worked on the PS2, especially the later revisions.
/Problem Solved
Another thing, make an adapter for UMDs, let people download PSP games to their Vita Memory Card. Tie the game to that system only. (Making it so you can't copy it, or share it) And if you have a second vita, all you need to do is use your UMD again. (Or Tie games vita PSN account or someshit, I don't know)
The whole way PSP-PS1 to > Vita was handled was not very good. One of the many reasons I held off initially.
Wish they would fix the problem with that god damn "Download List" too. Seriously, FFS sony this is 2014. We need a "LIBRARY" function if you want us to even remotely consider digital seriously.
Straight up copy Steam, I don't care. I can't be bothered to do shit with my PSN stuff half the time because the download list is a joke, congested up with demos, and all kinds of crap.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
That's not the response of someone who's pissed off. I just think it was supposed to be released tomorrow but got accidentally launched today!
#believe
Omnistalgic
Member
No interest in returning to many of these games anytime soon...but what a gloriously delicious thread this has turned into...
Cliffbo I see you!!
Cliffbo I see you!!
"Nice!" aka "Thank you for notifying me of this problem so that I can make sure it gets fixed ASAP. I love snitches!"
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Think about it. If they launched this tomorrow and announced it to everyone, PSN would crumble under the downloads of older PSP/PS1 games. SO perhaps Sony have done this to ease the strain?
poopninjamvc3mk
I sucked six dicks to get this tag.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
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The amount of Vita owners isn't even enough to make this happen
Kappa
1 million PS4 owners downloading ONE firmware update brought PSN to its knees in some places. Imagine 5 - 7 million Vita owners downloading dozens of PSP/PS1 games simultaneously.
edit: OK, you were kidding ...
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I have downloaded a metric ton of crap and DLC for older games on PSP and PSV. Finally found my free copy of MS RC with a bunch of DLC that I just initiated remotely via the web site.
xclaw
Member
Just played the first few rounds of the full game here and its working fine.
blast processed
Member
Finally I get Command and Conquer & Wing Commander on my Vita, good times. This only makes sense since PSP sales have come to a screeching halt and Vita needs a boost.
How do you think that they would be able to "lock" unwritable discs to a particular system exactly?
Azure Dream
Member
Drat, if only the Slim Vita had been out already...
Hidden One
Member
Welp time to go on a dloading spree.
"But BRB I gotta download my games first."
ThatStupidLion
Member
this man. whew!
BONKERS
Member
Not the discs, but the image made from the disc. (Think like how PSP downloadable games were initially "Keyed" to your account. But in this case you know, no Native Vita hacking I guess. Write protect the game image,/encrypt it or whatever) I'm sure it'd be possible with some kind of key mechanism based on the hardware serial built into the firmware or someshit.
But I mean, really come on. It's not "Impossible" is it? The worst that happens with a scenario like this, is that people share their UMDs with their friends in Real life, or people copy the game, then sell their UMD on the second hand market and rebuy it if they ever delete it. (Or perhaps a timed function, where the game image is only good on the memory card for X amount of time at a time. At such point it expires, or something. A warning of course should be included with something like this.)
None of which affects Sony in the least, not to mention considering UMD is a dead format and market pretty much. Same thing with PS1 games.
The worst is people pass around PSP and PSone games and then copy them over and over.
That's also a complicated system that would require R&D, asking third parties to loose out of revenue, and then you'd need to explain the software and make it fool-proof.
Oooor, people can buy PSone games for 99 cents or $6, PSP games for $5-15 ea, then have them future proofed on the PSN.
BONKERS
Member
Except I can't play nearly half my real PS1 library on the PSN. Barely a fraction of the PS1 library is available to us Barbarian westerners.
And like I said, if it was encrypted/tied to a specific system or Timed. Then that keeps people from copying it.
This is based on UMDs, and the many many games that are not sold at retail any more, nor are available digitally.
The people who want a digital only thing, can still keep on chugging. Mean while the rest of us are stuck out shit out of luck.
This particularly has made me mad because Sony basically said "haha!" (/simpsons) to anyone who was an early and ardent supporter of the PSP.
Sony was smart enough to come up with the half assed UMD passport in Japan. I'm sure they could make it work. (Their answer to us hairy barbarians was once again, "Haha, PSP games are cheap digitally! Just rebuy stuff you already own! Herp!" /not accounting for the things that are not available and their absolutely asinine and poor library management)
Where is the lost money in people being able to buy an Adapter (That will probably cost them pennies to make), download an app to the system to initiate it, and the games being locked to a system and +/or being timed where you have to re-do the process every so often to keep the game on your system.
No one can copy it from one memory card to another. Sony sells an adapter for 20-40$ makes money, people with massive UMD collections are not left out in the cold. People who still want to buy digital buy digital.
It's nearly the same scenario as with PS1/PS2 games on PS3 and PSN. People still buy Digitally. People still use their real discs. I've re-bought many of my PS1 games on PSN to support the company even though i'll never download the game. And just play my disc on my PS3, or i'll make an Eboot for my PSP and play it on there.
- It wouldn't cost pennies to make an adapter, so there's the first dent in your argument.
- The second is that if Sony even made profit on this hypothetical adapter, third parties would not. Licensing is a real pain in the ass, so their only option in your suggested scenario would be to have an infallible index of every game registered from PSone and PSP games and find agreed upon royalties per title to split between Sony and whichever publisher is owed a fraction of the adapter's cost. The longer the adapters are on shelves, the more and more money Sony loses to third parties, too. Do you see where this starts to get ugly?
- There's no super-cheap or easy way to retroactively add in extra copyright protection registration and unique IDs to some of these PSone discs that date back nearly twenty years. Any methods that could add it in probably wouldn't work out in any real-world cost/benefit ratio, too, and we would probably just wind up getting discounts on these games and not even 100% freebies.
- The Vita UMD passport program in Japan was missing a lot of major titles, and even the games it did support only game with discounts and not 100% freebies. Confidence in the passport program was never terribly strong for some apparent reason.
- It's also been shown, time and time again, that backwards compatibility is less and less important to purchasers the longer a piece of hardware exists, and we're in 2014 now. Holding out for a PSP conversion program for UMDs to digital in this day and age, after all this time has passed, seems like a fool's errand.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
PS1 games don't have demos.
Later Alligator
Member
i also didnt buy the spyro games during the sale, damn it
but, all the crash games, on the go... this is fantastic! ive been waiting since i got a damn vita at launch for this to be unlocked!
but, all the crash games, on the go... this is fantastic! ive been waiting since i got a damn vita at launch for this to be unlocked!
I think what you have to do is go near Crash's girlfriend during the bonus stages, as that triggers the save function. The game will go to an save menu if you are just starting a new game. I don't know if this helps, as I just got the original Crash last Friday
.krypt0nian
Banned
I love you now more then ever, sweet VITA.
Find a demo from 1996, and pop that bitch in.
friskykillface
Banned
I spent the past two hours playing crash bandicoot 1, got really far, some of these levels getting insane 0_O
im stuck on this ruin level that is dark with spears coming out of walls.
im stuck on this ruin level that is dark with spears coming out of walls.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Getting all of Crash now.