LegendOfKage
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Crow thread: Elon Musk has owned Twitter for one year now
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I preferred the bird.
RAÏSanÏa
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Go anti-woke go broke.
DeafTourette
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cash_longfellow
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It’s been like that for years.
LegendOfKage
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Musk has said he is a free speech absolutist, but he has also said all along that Twitter wouldn't be run that way. You can still be removed for using racial slurs, for example, and he never said he wanted to change that.
Then again, I'm not blindly defending him, and he does deserve plenty of criticism. I posted about this earlier:
There is some debate if these people were banned because of their criticism of Israel, their criticism of Musk, or something else. No matter the reason, people deserve transparency here, and Musk should be criticized for not living up to his stated goals for the platform.
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LegendOfKage
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ManaByte
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People were making naked Taylor Swift AI images and sharing them to X.
A website picked up the images.
Taylor decided to go after the website.
Swifties freaked out and started to dox the people who made the images on X.
Elon bans people from searching for "Taylor Swift"
A website picked up the images.
Taylor decided to go after the website.
Swifties freaked out and started to dox the people who made the images on X.
Elon bans people from searching for "Taylor Swift"
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Doesn't look like it is true as I just looked for Taylor Swift and worked normally.
ManaByte
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love how smug OP is if you look at the fact that twitter is all bots, ads, gore video's and OF girls right now. No matter how hard you try to hide or block it.
Then there's every single comment section under a tweet that functions as it's own marketplace.
''screenshot this tweet now and get 10 stickers for 1$!''
what a joke
it's not too late bro
Then there's every single comment section under a tweet that functions as it's own marketplace.
''screenshot this tweet now and get 10 stickers for 1$!''
what a joke
it's not too late bro
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I think what made twitter worse now is that everyone wants in on the engagement money and every tweet is filled with replies that aren't even relevant anymore.
It's just trash.
I follow a small amount of people, but when I try the "For you" section to maybe see if there's something else that I might be interested in, it's just filled with useless engagement farm posts.
It's just trash.
I follow a small amount of people, but when I try the "For you" section to maybe see if there's something else that I might be interested in, it's just filled with useless engagement farm posts.
Maiden Voyage
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It would be absolutely terrible if someone sent me a PM with these a link to these AI Swift images.
LegendOfKage
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Nope
I was curious, as I am with all of Twitter's weird decisions, so I went looking. Strangely, "taylor swift" doesn't come up with any results, but adding any word to her name does, including "taylor swift music" and even "taylor swift photos." I didn't see any AI photos, but I did find someone complaining about getting "a 12 hour timeout" for linking to the AI photos.
Nope.
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LegendOfKage
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Read the post above. Twitter did not "gut" their trust and safety team. Just because someone says something about Musk / Twitter, that doesn't necessarily make it true. You can check into these things yourself.
Tell that to my friends who were fired from Twitter and how my company changed their policy towards their T&S protocols. Their team is around 20 people and occasional contractors. Advisory boards are gone and transparency reports don't exist anymore.
Just very recently they decided to rebuild a T&S center, most likely prepping for the elections.
You can check into these things yourself.
Tiago Rodrigues
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And Twitter was never this bad tbh.
LegendOfKage
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I think this comes down to semantics. T&S was gutted if you mean there was a dramatic reduction in moderation staff due to layoffs. T&S was not gutted if you're suggesting what that tweet seemed to be suggesting, which is that twitter had to ban "taylor swift" search results, because no one is there to moderate the platform anymore. That seems to be wrong. After checking into it, I didn't see the AI photos, but I did see someone complaining that they were suspended for linking to them.
I am sorry your friends lost their jobs. Unfortunately, old twitter advisory boards advised the company to allow the US government to demand the censorship of legal speech. We also now know that internally, many people at Twitter actually fought this, and that ultimately it was leadership who caved to these demands.
As far as transparency goes, it took several journalists months of uncovered internal emails before people got actual transparency. Nothing about old twitter was transparent. People would be constantly banned and never told why. Twitter made rules up, and retroactively enforced them. If old twitter had consistently enforced transparent moderation, I think your friends would still have their jobs, and Musk would not own twitter. To me, that would be the best timeline.
Not that I think things are great under Musk. Far from it. See post 407 for an example of that. Transparency still sucks, and he still makes some really random and subjective decisions of his own. And yeah, twitter has gotten worse in other ways, too. I'm hoping Jack Dorsey can take the lessons learned and make his next social media platform a lot closer what Twitter was years ago.
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Sybrix
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Right, it’s so bad now, so many spam bots, every comment to a post is something complete unrelated or the reply is a video or meme with zero relation to the OG post.
it’s so bizarre how much of a swap it has become. I’m slowing moving towards deleting it tbh.
FunkMiller
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Yeah, it’s as fucked as anyone with half a brain knew it would be under Musk.
Tiago Rodrigues
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Exactly this. It’s impossible to discuss anything in there now
StreetsofBeige
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Might be a blessing in disguise.
If Twitter tanks and people bail ship, where social media stupidity doesn't migrate to another site as a zero sum game, society just got better.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Who would have thought being able to pay to have your replies boosted to the top would ruin a social media platform? Would take a genius to have predicted that.
LegendOfKage
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I don't think that's the main issue with the twitter algorithm right now, but it did ruin the idea of a FREE speech platform. Paying to be heard while speaking in the public square? Seems wrong to me.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
It’s exactly the reason why weat the top of every posts replies there is a bunch of garbage and spam.
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SlimySnake
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deleted twitter a few weeks ago and honestly havent missed it. got sick of watching cocks going inside women under most replies. also, the feed became way too toxic despite me purging negative stories like i do on youtube. i dont know why the algorithm pushes the worst of humanity but the internet was supposed to be fun.
facebook turned into this politics hellhole and i left it a decade ago. shame twitter algorithm has followed suit. only its worse because there are no moderators to curate a family friendly site.
facebook turned into this politics hellhole and i left it a decade ago. shame twitter algorithm has followed suit. only its worse because there are no moderators to curate a family friendly site.
Elon Musk had no problem accepting the suppression of free speech by multiple foreign regimes and went as far as saying "if the court says it, how is it illegal?"
Gutting T&S isn't "no moderation", it is the complete lack of good, enforceable guidelines that are discussed as a strategy and not as reactive policy. This takes manpower, research, a robust risk assessment desk, etc.
And yeah, there was a good degree of transparency. Reports were out there and clearly explained much of the platform's policy. Sure, not perfect. Unfortunately, these platforms cause real-world harm and you cannot avoid involvement by law enforcement agencies. Policy is never perfect or self-evident. You try and see if it works, based on evidence or based on pre-conceptions. Many good Twitter policies were very good and simply were thrown away due to ego.
Unknown Soldier
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As much as I hate Twatter, if it's Zuck controlling the next one instead since Threads is the second biggest now, then you just traded the frying pan for the fire
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Between the sharp rise in bots and fake news, and clout chasers spamming content under every thread in the hopes of getting payoffs from Musk, he’s ruined Twitter/X.
The only people happy about the state of things now are fake news merchants, Russian bots and the extremely gullible people.
Musk himself is happy to dabble into the election interference he blamed the previous Twitter leadership of doing.
What a shitshow.
The only people happy about the state of things now are fake news merchants, Russian bots and the extremely gullible people.
Musk himself is happy to dabble into the election interference he blamed the previous Twitter leadership of doing.
What a shitshow.
LegendOfKage
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"Russian bots," weren't really a thing. We only know this thanks to internal emails from Twitter confirming that they did not have a Russian bot problem. They knew this, because they better than anyone had the internal user data to know otherwise. They knew the media was being sold lies, and they could have corrected it, but they didn't say anything due to fear of bad PR. We were all lied to.
That's not to say that Musk didn't make twitter worse in many ways, because he absolutely did.
I don’t think you understand.
I don’t care or know if there was a Russian bot problem in the past. I’m saying there’s a Russian bot problem right now. A flood of paying, algorithmically boosted accounts pushing pro-Kremlin propaganda around the Ukraine war, around coups in Africa and pushing anti-West and anti-Israel talking points with respect to the Middle East conflict.
Most of them get community noted at least once a week for misinformation with zero consequences.
Aside this, I touched on how Musk’s lure of payments for x engagement leads to every thread being spammed with a flood of viral videos on repeat. Or how Musk himself (who complained about the role of the previous Twitter leadership in influencing the last election) is pushing election propaganda with his personal account that is artificially boosted to the highest visibility levels on Twitter.
It’s a shitshow at this point.
DeafTourette
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Sonik
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The Western spooks and their corporate media buddies always project the shady things they're doing to their enemies also opening the way for more censorship in order to control the narrative even better. Reminder that the most reddit addicted city in 2013 was the Eglin airforce base that has a internet propaganda program. That was in 2013 when the propaganda wasn't even that bad.
Nice timing, right when a lot of ‘Texas Independence Party’ accounts were exposed as Russian bots yesterday.
There’s no ‘projection’ here.
Sonik
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Is that like the "Russian bots" in Roy Moore's campaign that turned out to be bots controlled by a billionaire that were made to look like they are from Russia in a story that broke from New Knowledge, a company full of "former" State Department employees that since has changed its name and continues to "advice" corporate media?
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No. It’s not like that at all.
I love how you keep pulling out stories from 2013 and now 2018 to try to invalidate shit that’s happening right now.
X’s algorithms now are being designed to show you shit shoveled by any clown who can pay, with very minimal vetting or verification.
But you’re In luck. This is just hot off the press
Sonik
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Yes, I'm sure the spooks are reformed and honest now and would never do this shit again. Who even believes this shit?
Btw X's algorithm is open-source unlike the old one that was kept closed and was being constantly manipulated, at least they're honest about what they're prioritizing
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I won't deny it is a shit show now. But does the prior regime take any accountability at all for the loss of trust from so many people?
LegendOfKage
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If something is actually happening, where's the evidence? Where's the leaked emails showing an internal discussion at twitter that confirms these claims? Because the people who made false claims before have lost their right to be taken at their word.
“If you can’t bring leaked emails from X, it means we can’t believe they have a bot problem”
facepalm
LegendOfKage
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Yes, if you don't have evidence, I can't believe you. There's been too much lying about this in the recent past. People have lost faith in the media, and the blame for that rests squarely on the media.
If you don't have proof, the next best thing would be a difference. What has changed for the source of your info? Can you point to the situations in 2013 and 2018 that you dismiss above, and show me tweets being made by someone who was skeptical of those situations as they unfolded, due to a lack of proof. Tweets critical of the false reporting about bots back then, which would give them a proven track record, and then tweets from the same person or group claiming that this is the real thing.
You can't keep crying wolf, and then expect people to keep believing you. However if you have a record of discernment and express the feeling that this time is different, that's at least something.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
The bot problem on Twitter is abundantly clear to anyone playing attention while they navigate the site. It's horrendous.
Especially the "companies" buying ad space that are no more than scam storefronts shilling products that are not their own or that just don't exist.
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