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Crysis 2 PS3 Will Hit Graphical Ceiling
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Lagspike_exe
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dark10x said:
THIS.
A game can only be characterized by the sum of its parts. I have nothing else to say to you, honestly. Any game can be reduced to its flaws, but I would never characterize a game in such a way (unless it was inherently broken).Firewire said:
With this post, I finally understand you...you're being deliberate!Tom Penny said:
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Go play the game bro. It's awesome. You're gonna love it.Firewire said:
esc said:
I understand where you are coming from. I was just trying to point out some of the obvious flaws it has, flaws that are shared by many games.
On the flip side, I'm a huge fan of ND. But in my opinion the multiplayer in U2 is broken. When you shoot a guy with a shotgun from behind twice at point blank range and he simply turns around and smacks you with the barrel of his gun and you die something is broken right? There are flaws in its single player as well.
You can hype it for some things, but not others, and the "others" shouldn't be simply ignored. This doesn't make a game bad overall, hell I haven't ever played the perfect game, none of us has.
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BobsRevenge said:
Wish I could play it, but I only own Mac's (It's a work thing).
ZephyrFate
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Every game has minor glitches. Whether or not you turn these into hyperbole depends on how stupid you are.Firewire said:
Ive got Crysis on the PC, and thanks to brain_stew's guide to enabling triple buffering, I can play it quite nicely maxed out with 2x AA at 1080p. And it does go far beyond the (still astonishing) visuals.
I absolutely love how theres countless ways to go about a certain objective - do I use my suit's invisibility and the bushes/trees around the area to sneak into the enemy base unnoticed ala MGS, or do I run in there guns blazing and hope not to die? Or do I steal a nearby car, smash through two buildings, and blow everyone to hell with my rocket launcher?
It's just incredible. :lol
I absolutely love how theres countless ways to go about a certain objective - do I use my suit's invisibility and the bushes/trees around the area to sneak into the enemy base unnoticed ala MGS, or do I run in there guns blazing and hope not to die? Or do I steal a nearby car, smash through two buildings, and blow everyone to hell with my rocket launcher?
It's just incredible. :lol
Wasnt their a mod where some guy made a physics based elastic grapple hook that allowed to swing across areas?
You can't shit on a game that lets you be spiderman and jump ravines in an FPS.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tljLCiO9do
haters be damned to the underworld.
You can't shit on a game that lets you be spiderman and jump ravines in an FPS.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tljLCiO9do
haters be damned to the underworld.
eternaLightness
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Wish I could have a real-life Crysis suit. I'd be awesome.
TacticalFox88
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I just loved the voice in Crysis who told you your upgrades "Maximum Armor" "Cloak Engaged"
MadOdorMachine
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Makes sense above hitting a graphical ceiling. The first Uncharted was pretty close to hitting it and all Uncharted 2 did was make improvements, most of which aren't noticeable unless you're looking for it - screen tearing, particle effects, etc. I could see the same thing happening with Crysis 2.
TacticalFox88
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No difference between the two? For the blind maybe.MadOdorMachine said:
Jason's Ultimatum
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MadOdorMachine said:
Have you been smoking crack?
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MadOdorMachine said:
Man, I'm not saying I don't agree with you, I'm not saying I DO agree with you.
But regardless of what you think, this is NeoGAF, you just don't say shit like that about Sony exclusives, even if it's the truth.
But this thread is just :lol
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thuway said:
Your interpretation of the bolded is interesting and revealing.
It had nothing to do with Uncharted 2 specifically, but I'm glad you chose to take it that way.
edit: Read my post again for clarity. You could substitute Uncharted 2 with almost any PS3 exclusive and he would have received the same reaction regardless.
The fact that he chose Uncharted 2 was just more foolish than mentioning saaaaay, Ratchet and Clank? Which probably fits more with what he was trying to say about Uncharted 2
evil solrac v3.0
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Firewire said:
never seen any of those glitches all the times i've played the game (finished Crysis 3 times, warhead twice) Adam doesn't what he's talking about and neither do you.
MadOdorMachine
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Yeah I'm being serious. Uncharted was the showcase for PS3 graphics capabilities. There have been a few tweaks made in the sequel but they were all improvements to what was already there. My previous comment was meant to be a testament to the achievement Naughty Dog made in the first game. Maybe it didn't sound like that.dralla said:
Regardless, the best I expect the PS3 version Crysis 2 to look like is Uncharted 2. I think it's an accurate statement that we've pretty much seen the most PS3 has to offer as far as graphics are concerned. Granted not all games will be able to get that level out of it, but there's only so much a system can do.
Edit - The comments made by the Crytek guy are what's important. They're aiming for the highest quality they can possibly get out of the PS3. So opinions aside, one thing we can count on is a quality game from them.
UntoldDreams
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This is a bit hard to gauge because the CPU is offloading work from the GPU.
In this case, what is the graphical ceiling?
If you dedicate enough of the CELL processor to helping out the ceiling gets higher at the cost of things like Enemy AI and PHYSICS.
If Crytek is saying they can do the Uncharted 2 Train Level with just as much "gameplay physics AI" and also hit a higher graphical ceiling then that is indeed most impressive.
In this case, what is the graphical ceiling?
If you dedicate enough of the CELL processor to helping out the ceiling gets higher at the cost of things like Enemy AI and PHYSICS.
If Crytek is saying they can do the Uncharted 2 Train Level with just as much "gameplay physics AI" and also hit a higher graphical ceiling then that is indeed most impressive.
MadOdorMachine
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I haven't picked it up yet, but from what I saw on the demo it looked on the same level as UC2. In other words, it's the best PS3 has to offer. I guess at this point it's kind of silly to argue about it though. Any improvements made are hard for me to notice. I've already been wowed so much by good graphics that I'm desensitized to it I guess.TEH-CJ said:
I would think most of the improvements would be made in areas like physics and AI, but that's just my opinion. I just don't see there being another noticeable jump in graphics coming out of the PS3.UntoldDreams said:
InfiniteNine
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The demo really isn't representative of the final builds looks.MadOdorMachine said:
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grumble said:
No doubt.
All of them bar a couple of games are good games. I don't think anyone is doubting that. Certainly not me.
But most people have read into my post as a slur on Uncharted 2, which it wasn't. It wasn't even about Uncharted at all, it was about Sony exclusives in general and how they're viewed and talked about on GAF.
Even IF he was right in what he said about the difference between UC1 and 2 (which he wasn't, which is why I said I neither agreed or disagreed with him), he shouldn't have bothered saying anything derogatory about such a high profile Sony exclusive because regardless of whether it was the truth or not, he would have been looked upon as an idiot.
The 'typical' reaction to MY post (which thuway demonstrated with perfect timing) was to take it as an affront to Uncharted 2, which it wasn't.
Which basically illustrates my point in the first place.
Tall poppy syndrom is a common human trait, the more something is built up, the more people set out to cut it down. If the Sony 1st party exclusives weren't so overly hyped, there'd be less trolls trying to cut them down. If anything, the opposite would occur.
I'm not expecting that behaviour to change here, but I'm just sayin.
nelsonroyale
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JB1981 said:
What makes you say that?
I think they both have strengths and weaknesses. For instance in U2, that tibetan village that people were complimenting...aliasing was pretty evident there,
Poimandres
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Can't believe people are still hating on Crysis after all this time. It's not perfect, but it really is a good game and not just a "pretty face".
Very hyped for this.
I hope they do set a new graphical benchmark for the PS3, and that is looks just as good on 360, and that the PC version isn't "gimped". That way everyone should be happy right? Right?!
Very hyped for this.
I hope they do set a new graphical benchmark for the PS3, and that is looks just as good on 360, and that the PC version isn't "gimped". That way everyone should be happy right? Right?!
InfiniteNine
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No one will ever be happy, except for people who don't really give a crap.Poimandres said:
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jett said:
This is true and there is no doubting that God of War was the king of "OH SHIT DID YOU SEE THAT" moments on the PS2/last gen in general (RE4 and SOTC were right there too). But Uncharted 2 kinda matches the insane set piece moments, just a tad more grounded.
nelsonroyale
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Linkzg said:
Depends....while U2 is more grounded, GoW 3 is more 'ridiculously epic'...The intro, for instance, is actually more impressive than that in U2...and that was probably the previous most impressive I've seen
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eh, everything about the way Uncharted 2 looks just feels a notch above God of War III.
- The camera design is noticeably better in UC2. It actually felt like it totally stole God 3's thunder in that regard. UC2 felt totally restrained and subtle but still totally 'wow!' worthy, whereas God 3's felt... dated. Better than most games (wassup Dante's Let'spointthecameraatthefloorerno), just not all super-expert pro like UC2.
- Nice variety of levels. Every area has a distinct palette.
- Never stopped to momentarily load.
- Characters other than Kratos and maybe Zeus actually look totally top tier.
- Didn't have the occasionally super-robotic animations like in God 3 during the environmental traversal sections.
God 3 has the 'it's new!' sheen to it, but nothing in it was anywhere near as striking as climbing the giant dagger in the mirror-room, climbing up the train with the camera dramatically panning about, the train scene itself, etc etc etc. It was far, far more consistent and varied, and hit higher highs.
I guess if you're really in love with the dramatic lighting in caves or something then you might prefer God 3's look, but it wasn't quite my thing.
for reference, I'm not shitting on God 3. Here's a nice visual representation I MSPAINTed of the shades of grey we're dealing with here:
edit: there are no arrows indicating UP or BETTER LOOKING, so you'll have to interpret my loving diagram for yourselves!
- The camera design is noticeably better in UC2. It actually felt like it totally stole God 3's thunder in that regard. UC2 felt totally restrained and subtle but still totally 'wow!' worthy, whereas God 3's felt... dated. Better than most games (wassup Dante's Let'spointthecameraatthefloorerno), just not all super-expert pro like UC2.
- Nice variety of levels. Every area has a distinct palette.
- Never stopped to momentarily load.
- Characters other than Kratos and maybe Zeus actually look totally top tier.
- Didn't have the occasionally super-robotic animations like in God 3 during the environmental traversal sections.
God 3 has the 'it's new!' sheen to it, but nothing in it was anywhere near as striking as climbing the giant dagger in the mirror-room, climbing up the train with the camera dramatically panning about, the train scene itself, etc etc etc. It was far, far more consistent and varied, and hit higher highs.
I guess if you're really in love with the dramatic lighting in caves or something then you might prefer God 3's look, but it wasn't quite my thing.
for reference, I'm not shitting on God 3. Here's a nice visual representation I MSPAINTed of the shades of grey we're dealing with here:
edit: there are no arrows indicating UP or BETTER LOOKING, so you'll have to interpret my loving diagram for yourselves!
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