I mean, maybe Cyberpunk is a better game underneath the buggy mess while Days Gone was not.
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Cyberpunk 2077 - Review Thread
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I mean, maybe Cyberpunk is a better game underneath the buggy mess while Days Gone was not.
AutumnLeaves
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Sure. But this game is not going to appeal to most female gamers its going to appeal to mostly bros people with more testosterone.
Cyberpunk 2077’s ESRB rating describes customizable genitalia, possible crucifixion
Cyberpunk 2077 is headed in some interesting directionswww.polygon.com
Cyberpunk 2077 - ESRB
Cyberpunk 2077 - Mature 17+ - This is a first-person RPG/shooter in which players assume the role of a mercenary named V trying to make their way through the open-world of Night City.www.esrb.org
What am I reading?
hemo memo
Member
So basically she rushed the game to get the review out and that’s why she scored it low. Very professional Gamespot.
AutumnLeaves
Member
Yeah, someone here confirmed it I believe.
Gaming urinalists like her are fake news and a joke.
MaestroMike
Gold Member
Sure, but there are definitely women who play games that will be into it as well. Lots of men reviewed Animal Crossing too.
I can't believe I'm really having this conversation lol.
Probably, but d00ds get more hyped up for violence and sex than females its easier for men to get into that zone than females. Testosterone. Sometimes its an advantage, sometimes its not. Its obvious the gamespot reviewer chick doesn't like this type of stuff and its not an odd reaction for her to have.
harmny
Banned
yeah the video was embarassing. in my opinion you are exaggerating a couple of points but i think the overall thing to say is that is clear she didn't like the game because of political reasons so she didn't even care to explore many systems because at that point she had already decided the game was meh. it didn't help that the game was buggy as hell either.
at this point i'm wondering why they decided she was the best choice for reviewing this game. for the guy that did the 16 hour impression the most impressive thing about the game was the world building and mainly characters/writing but she says characters are offensive and the writing is not saying anything... (?)
she doesn't sound like someone who likes rpgs of this kind
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Hugare
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How old are you, if you dont mind me asking?Sure. But this game is not going to appeal to most female gamers its going to appeal to mostly bros people with more testosterone.
Cyberpunk 2077’s ESRB rating describes customizable genitalia, possible crucifixion
Cyberpunk 2077 is headed in some interesting directions
Cyberpunk 2077 - ESRB
Cyberpunk 2077 - Mature 17+ - This is a first-person RPG/shooter in which players assume the role of a mercenary named V trying to make their way through the open-world of Night City.
C'mon, man
"Edgy" posts like these is the reason this place has a bed rep
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ZehDon
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You’re just all kinds of dumb-fuck, aren’t you? 4Chan is over there...
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Great Hair
Banned
If you count all the 36 review scores (opencritic) and calculate an avg. score, you get 82% not 91%. To get 91% you need an additional 320+ points, essentially 3x extra more reviews (100%).
Even ignoring the bad scores (6), will only improve the final score by 1%. Have to assume, that not every outlet (36 listed) count toward the final score.
#DRAMAOPENCRITICCANNOTBETRUSTEDSERIOUSLYSTAYAWAYAWAYAWAY!!!!111
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Demon´s Souls Remake (82 counted scores)
7531% : 82 = 91.84% (still no polygon, kotaku, ars technica score given)
Even ignoring the bad scores (6), will only improve the final score by 1%. Have to assume, that not every outlet (36 listed) count toward the final score.
#DRAMAOPENCRITICCANNOTBETRUSTEDSERIOUSLYSTAYAWAYAWAYAWAY!!!!111
12x 100%
4x95%
2x91%
10x90%
1x88%
3x80%
1x78%
1x70%
1x60%
2,964% : 36 = 82%
4x95%
2x91%
10x90%
1x88%
3x80%
1x78%
1x70%
1x60%
2,964% : 36 = 82%
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Demon´s Souls Remake (82 counted scores)
7531% : 82 = 91.84% (still no polygon, kotaku, ars technica score given)
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MaestroMike
Gold Member
?? ok make sure to hook up ur gfs/wives/sisters/moms with cyberpunk 2077 for their birthdays i'm sure they'll appreciate it so much
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Romulus
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Hm. That's gotta drop to pretty low resolution on Pro to even keep close to 60fps. I'd guess 900p at least, maybe even 720p
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Portugeezer
Member
It's probably just an uncapped framerate, not actual 60fps on PS4 Pro.
ZehDon
Member
My sister and my wife have their copies pre-ordered for their Xboxes, I have mine pre-ordered for PC.
Are you always such a pathetic human being, or is today a special day?
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MaestroMike
Gold Member
lol interesting let us know how they like it
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Romulus
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Nice that they offer it at least.
balls of snow
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I think if witcher 3 came out the state it did in 2015 today it would review on par with CP 77. Standards are just raised by Rockstar, Zelda team and sony first party.
Halo is Back
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Your wife and sister sound like cool people
eyesabitdull
Banned
Good to know the reviews are doing well, but I'm more concerned on what steam reviews or user reviews from Gaffers say when it releases.
To me, what I want to know, is how much space does the game need on PC?
According to steam its 60 gigs, but with the day 1 patch, I'm really not sure if it stays that way or I need up to 100 gigs on my SSD.
Cause I'll need to clear a few things if so o.o
To me, what I want to know, is how much space does the game need on PC?
According to steam its 60 gigs, but with the day 1 patch, I'm really not sure if it stays that way or I need up to 100 gigs on my SSD.
Cause I'll need to clear a few things if so o.o
eyesabitdull
Banned
Sure. But this game is not going to appeal to most female gamers its going to appeal to mostly bros people with more testosterone.
Cyberpunk 2077’s ESRB rating describes customizable genitalia, possible crucifixion
Cyberpunk 2077 is headed in some interesting directions
Cyberpunk 2077 - ESRB
Cyberpunk 2077 - Mature 17+ - This is a first-person RPG/shooter in which players assume the role of a mercenary named V trying to make their way through the open-world of Night City.
Wait, do you live outside of the western hemisphere?
If so, I would agree with your sentiment.
Most girls around the world would not play this game.
But girls who consider themselves as "gamers" and those that can be counted into that demographic, would more than likely play that Cyberpunk 2066.
WiseguyMVP
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Cherry Sonoshee
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THEAP99
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hemo memo
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https://www.vga4a.com/archives/82777
This is regarding the Arabic (Middle East) version and that the difference in term of censorship is that it uses the toggle nudity off available in other versions without cut or altered content. He gave it a 10/10 and that’s glad to hear.
This is regarding the Arabic (Middle East) version and that the difference in term of censorship is that it uses the toggle nudity off available in other versions without cut or altered content. He gave it a 10/10 and that’s glad to hear.
harmny
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Rayderism
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Well, despite my distaste for first-person view, I went ahead and bought the game. I just can't resist the futuristic setting, not to mention all the praise it's getting regardless of the bugs/glitches.
My pre-load on PS4 Pro went live about 10 minutes ago and it says 102.417GB.
Hope it runs well enough. I can tolerate low frame rates fairly well and will be playing it in graphics mode for the best looking graphics, but of course I'll check out the frame rate mode once the game unlocks.
I know I'm probably pipe-dreaming, but shouldn't it have less bugs on a console, seeing as how it's fixed hardware? I mean, I know it will have worse framerates and weaker graphics than a PC, and RTX is obviously out the window with a PS4, but PC configurations vary wildly, wouldn't that leave them open to more bugs than a console?
My pre-load on PS4 Pro went live about 10 minutes ago and it says 102.417GB.
Hope it runs well enough. I can tolerate low frame rates fairly well and will be playing it in graphics mode for the best looking graphics, but of course I'll check out the frame rate mode once the game unlocks.
I know I'm probably pipe-dreaming, but shouldn't it have less bugs on a console, seeing as how it's fixed hardware? I mean, I know it will have worse framerates and weaker graphics than a PC, and RTX is obviously out the window with a PS4, but PC configurations vary wildly, wouldn't that leave them open to more bugs than a console?
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Bydimension
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One of the dumbess reviewers I have ever seen. Isn't she the same reviewer who came up with the "Too Much Water" meme when reviewing Pokemon third gen remake?
For God sake...
THEAP99
Banned
he even mentions resetera lmao
harmny
Banned
no she's not. she loves pokemon
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
GenericUser
Member
That drama is entertaining to some extend, but it becomes stale by now.
any reviews that tackle the following topics?
- difficulty
- gunplay/melee combat
- console performance
- role-playing capabilities
- gun customisation/crafting/"alchemy" in general?
I'm not in the mood digging through dozens of clickbait pseudo outrage bullshit articles, just to find one that talks about the gameplay in this videogame.
any reviews that tackle the following topics?
- difficulty
- gunplay/melee combat
- console performance
- role-playing capabilities
- gun customisation/crafting/"alchemy" in general?
I'm not in the mood digging through dozens of clickbait pseudo outrage bullshit articles, just to find one that talks about the gameplay in this videogame.
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THEAP99
Banned
we all know it's u
hemo memo
Member
Yeah same girl. I don’t have a problem with the negative review but the problem is that it is a bad review professionally. From writing to actually understanding the game mechanics.
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THEAP99
Banned
no console performance yet. they're not having people review that.
as for melee combat:
The role-playing aspects are good
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
That's a terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible thing to say. I don't talk like that...
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Sample teeeext!
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Bydimension
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Just Verify myself to confirm. She WAS indeed the same reviewer of Pokemon Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby on IGN who came up with "Too Much Water" as negative claim.
She is a joke.
THEAP99
Banned
there's no way the sample text thing is true. my god it's gonna be a massacre on base consoles if that's true
hemo memo
Member
I’ve never thought I get to say this but IGN review is among the best of them. I’ve been reading Tom impressions even before with the preview.
DispatchNinja
Banned
WTF. How can you fairly review a game when you don’t even engage with any of its mechanics or content. What a lousy “reviewer”.
LMAO, what a goddman disservice to the readers and watchers of the review. I'm sorry but it's times like these when there needs to be some competence when reviewing a game
regawdless
Banned
After my experience with Witcher 3, I've decided to play this game 3 months after release. I'm in no hurry, have plenty of other stuff to play.
Great reviews, can't wait to play it with a bunch of mods on PC when more bugs are ironed out.
Great reviews, can't wait to play it with a bunch of mods on PC when more bugs are ironed out.
Cherry Sonoshee
Banned
It literally talks about on page 31 of The World of Cyperpunk 2077 book about how easy and cheap it is to acquire body mods. You can walk into a shop off the street and get light modifications like nothing. Modfying your body is as easy as getting a tattoo now. It compares more complex mods to going to the dentist. The point is that its easy and that this should have a profound effect on humanity. So clearly in the "lore" they are pretty cheap. You mistakenly only read that as cheap as simply money wise. Well per the lore they are and also if you read deeper which I feel you have a problem doing, cheap as in " widely available and easy". Country wide travel is pretty cheap today and has had a huge effect on life, even if cars or plane tickets can be expensive. It's still available to many people. Thats the point.
This is a pretty aragant remark to make. I don't think you get to say your opinion is better than anyone else or someone should drop thier opinion because it dosen't agree with yours. That's pretty childish and shows a lack of understanding in how opinions and reviews work.
I'm not the reviewer dude. My point is that reviewer has every right to say what she "feels". Yes feels, because that's what a review is. It's someone giving thier feelings based on a work. They can bring whatever background, experince, worldview, or whatever to that review. That dosen't make it less valid. You are trying to mis-frame this as some rational vs irrational argument on a subjective thing, except for you the only rational logic is yours. But that's flawed because your logic is "well I don't think that exists so it dosen't". You're using awful fan logic here where "well the work doesn't have that, so if you're reading that into it you're wrong". Which is extremely dumb and also irrational.
You are trying to frame anyone who reads things you disagree with as "forcing thier view unto something", complete with logcail fallacies such as "well make your own work" or "well this is'nt your work, it's the creators how dare you tell them to do that". You are being intelecually dishonest and showing a complete lack of understand all while trying to say your view is the only correct one. That's not rational, that's insane. You actaully don't want a review. You don't want anyones thoughts on the matter.
She literally puts the primary example in the review. The mix-it up drink and ad. To which she recognizes the point is to show how possibly messed up the society has become sex-wise. Her point being that sense the game just drops things like that without ever dealing with it, it uses trans imagry as simpley and asthetic with no nuance. That botherd her. It dosen't borhter me, I've always thought that was a lame critizism sense this 80s cyperpunk atmosphere is based on the crass over-sexualised ads of the 80s and the point is how worse society has gotten. While I'm sure her viewpoint is that in 2020 we now are more aware of the trans experince and what it's like, it makes less sense to have something that seemingly cheapens the idea of changing genders. That's me assuming and not something I agree with because I'm not trans and have no perspective on trans issues. But you telling someone they are wrong because this is based on feelings is highly dumb as if your own views are not based on your own persepective. Which you can try and sugar coat as being based on logic and being rational, by not letting your feelings effect the creative vision. But in reality it's just your feelings or pespetive to not care about those other things. That's it, you're not so high and mighty.
Because that's hardly a defense. Ok so the creator did'nt intend that. It correctly reflects the tone and atmosphere of the work. And? That dosen't mean someone is'nt allowed to voice that they still think it's in poor taste or effected thier enjoyment.
"Oh not everything has to be everyone"
Ok, well now thanks to the review mentioning it a person who has that perspective can not make a more informed choice and skip this game if it bothers them. Or they can think about what it means to them as well.
I like it when cyperpunk stories talk about the nature of being human and what that means even if you have no body. I like it when cyperpunk stories talk about how society adopts to crazy internet technology. I also like it when they have crazy baddass characters and sights.
But I know you are trying to frame this as "You want them to make it to pander to you" which is dumb. I mean lets be honest, you are defending it because you think it panders to you. But no I'm not looking for the work to pander to me, I'll take the work and see if it vibes with what I like and go from there. Then I'll give my own review, which is excactly what the Gamespot reviewer did. Maybe you don't agree with her perspective. Ok and? The issues with Trans stuff has lame to her and worthy of taking a few points. That's it, you don't like it, tough.
Except.....we are talking about reviews on media which are based on feelings and ones own point of view. You're being pretty disingenuous ere by trying to frame this as "oh well since you are accepting of this persons feelings you must be accepting of everyone's feelings, so if she said something completely stupid like the game is actually some anti-Christ conspiracy I guess you'd take that".
Ok well nuance I guess lost here, but you and I know that's not what's being said. There is nothing out there about the persons review. You simply just don't like the perspective she brings and it upsets you for whatever reason.
Except it's being made now.
Like you're logic eventually leads to a problem where nothing is allowed to ever be talked about because you can always use a lame argument. Cyperpunk 2077 is based on a genre and a work with roots from a diffrent time, so of course it will have some reflections of that, but it's not presenting it self as a historical document. It's not presenting itself as being really reflective of the problems of that era. And if it is, then someone can argue that it dos a bad job or that it shows itself as being really dated in 2020. Hell, just looking at how the World Book describes and satires police, it's pretty obvious it's commenting an American police issues from the 90s and now. So it may have some commentary and todays culture. But I guess according to you we shouldn't use a modern lens to look at that. But that dosen't even make sense as humans will always look and reflect on works with modern lens for good and bad.
But that's the argument. The reviewer thinks otherwise. She thinks that since it leaves certain ethnicities at the stereotypes and offers up no alternatives it dumbs them down to those stereotypes. Is she right? Is that a problem even? I don't know, but those are questions that can be asked. Personally I don't think its a problem as I've personally seen this game as a send-up to Cyberpunk troupes and culture. So it using certain styles and troupes and leaving them at the door is fine to me as it's trying to create and replicate that atmosphere. If someone disagress well I have no problem with them talking about that.
I'm not judging anything. I haven't played the game. I'm saying if someone has a certain reading of a work, thats fine. I guess I have to say a reading within reason.
Like quite honestly this is bullshit how you try to frame this. If something is'nt to my liking then I can dislike it, regardless what you think. That's it. I'm not telling you you can't like it or that the creator had to make it this way. Just that i think they were wrong or maybe something offended me and I think the work is bad because of it. You want to frame disagreements like that, but at the sometime are not self-aware when it comes to comments like "I have the correct reality". Please.
Basicly, people are never allowed to disagree with a work....if you like it.
Yeah I'm an actual adult, so I can handle people's opinions.
No what you want is something that aggress with you. What you probably want is no one to mention woke things. What you want is someone to not bring up issues you don't agree with or care about. You don't want a review.
It's pretty bonkers that you are trying to pull a lame "you are actually the bad person" card when I simply said I don't speak for any gay person and I'm not gay so I don't have that perspective on that work.
I don't even know what your point is. You are trying to frame this as someone forcing thier view on a work when that did'nt happen anywhere. I have no interests in continuing to argue with someone so childish.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
That so much of review culture these days is this subjective diary type stuff is one of the main turn offs for me tbh. Often it feels like they don’t even bother trying to meet the game half way.
Feelings and one’s point of view will certainly come into it no matter what but imo a good critic would look at the media of its peers, it would look at the genre, the history of the company, etc. with a sense of objectivity. Too many reviewers these days throw that out the window and just use games to talk about their own personal pet issue. Good for serving themselves but bad for serving the community.
When I see a critic who refuses to engage in RPG elements in an RPG game then her bona fides come into question. If she doesn’t want to put in the bare minimum effort why should I listen to anything she has to say? Just because she has a job writing about games does not make her qualified. If I want an opinion on metal music I will not ask a classical music fan who will just complain to me about how loud it is. I will listen to someone who has a working knowledge of metal. Someone who likes it.
Just because someone is a critic doesn’t make them worth listening to.
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IbizaPocholo
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TheDuskwalker
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Yeah, I played through Witcher 3 on PS4 in its launch state, it was rough. Might just sit on my copy of Cyberpunk for awhile.
