nowhat
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Or as CDPR likes to call it - "we're going gold!"
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Cyberpunk Patch 1.2 patch notes released || Out NOW ||
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nkarafo
Member
Thanks. I guess i'll wait for the next updates then.
Dries
Member
This. I have no sympathy for whiners playing Cyberpunk like it's a GTA game.
nowhat
Member
Do you have any sympathy for whiners trying to play Cyberpunk as an RPG? Because it does a piss-poor job at it. You have the origin stories - which basically amount to nothing (in the end, you're a street kid) apart from some dialogue choices that really don't affect anything. Sure, there are multiple endings to choose from - but again, it's a matter of how much you want to grind it out with various side missions. Or very specific conditions if you want to get the secret ending. But at any rate, your role-playing role, as it were, basically amounts to what ending you want to get. No, telling someone to fuck off is not branching. It's pruning.
Dries
Member
Don't know what to say man. Cyberpunk 2077 is my personal GOTY so yeah, I guess opinions differ.
waquzy
Member
So everything is pretty much the same. To be fair there is only so much you can change with the broken game code in the first place, in order to make drastic changes to the core gameplay you would have to start from scratch, and CDPR ain't going to do that...
harmny
Banned
Disco elysium Is regarded as one of the best role playing games of the last decade and you can't really change the story at all. I guess that game does a piss poor job too right? Because it's just "pruning" going by your definition.
And we're talking about an isometric rpg with no combat.
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nowhat
Member
Haven't played that one yet, so no comment. But we were promised a world where each and every action we take will affect the game. And... ehh.
ripeavocado
Banned
This is the main problem the sub native res console versions have.
PC is better only if you can afford it.
rickybooby87
Member
It would honestly be lost on me, and I appreciate you looking out for me, thanks! (You probably don't want your free CP2077 code to get revoked, and I understand).
Gamezone
Gold Member
It's not just how buggy the game is, and how bad it runs. I'm also talking about how CDPR went out of their way to cover things up. The game was a complete scam. Not allowing reviewers to use their own gameplay footage because they knew how terrible it was.
Josemayuste
Member
I tried to with no luck.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I just play for a bit, because I am working on my VPS upgrade, compilation and all that good Linux stuff. And.....what did they actually fixed, outside of the framerate, there are same fucking bugs everywhere. I honestly don't see this being anything close to major patch, if it would be hotfix, I would believe them.
Anyway where is that Driving model toggle, like they teased? I don't see it anywhere. Did anyone of you actually found it?
Anyway where is that Driving model toggle, like they teased? I don't see it anywhere. Did anyone of you actually found it?
BaneIsPain
Member
Just played it after the patch. Finally can finish the Gig: Getting Warmer without any bugs.
Neo Blaster
Member
Chill out, man, it was just a joke. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
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Starfield
Member
As soon as its out of early access. So probably early next year
geary
Member
The game was removed because they CDPR told the customers they will do refunds, not because it was bugged. If you think it was removed because of the bugs and not because Playstation didn't want all the hassle of refunds because their refund policy sucks, then you are naive.
Sevenfold
Member
Thank you.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFuck.
E: Why oh why did I finish the bloody graffiti quest!
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CuteFaceJay
Member
From what I've seen on their sub reddit. Don't waste your bandwidth.
TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
That's fair, but different endings or even the world reflecting the player actions are not genre-defining for RPGs.
Many RPGs have neither of that.
Now, an RPG's gameplay must reflect the player's choices of building their character.
Does the game play different with different builds? Allow different approaches, maybe even locking content for multiple playthroughs? If it plays the same with all builds, then yeah, really does fail at being an RPG.
On the actual topic of the game: I really don't think I'm going to play this before Christmas.
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DaleinCalgary
Member
This game can't be fixed.
Starfield
Member
I literally don't care mate
Rikkori
Member
Because it's not possible to fix it so long as it's all done heavily on temporal accumulation, and for them to change that would require a lot of re-engineering and would hit the fps a lot harder too. Tbh I had no issue with grainy SSR at 65%+ of 4K and 60 fps (SSR high or ultra). The higher the fps & the higher the res, the less obvious it is, but the reverse is also true, which is why it looks so horrible on consoles.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
Started a new game after the patch. Jackie still walks through the elevator doors before they open.
Yep I rolled my eyes hard at that...begining of the game and wham glitch.
Not a good way to start a game off.
But I pushed through that bit and continued on.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
At this point, I would really not expect much honestly.
Freeman76
Member
Not their fault you took that too literally, like WAY too literally
TIGERCOOL
Member
Playing on PC - rtx 2070 and ryzen 3600. Noticing a lot less jank in general though there's still some annoying shit like trash bags exploding and disappearing traffic in the distance. Occasionally some bigger graphical bugs but nowhere near as bad as it was in December. Anyone saying otherwise is suffering serious recency bias or trolling.
Performance seems a lot more stable. Switching between balanced and quality dlss at 1440p with psycho ssr and medium/high for the rest and rarely dipping below 60. Forgot how fucking good this game can look, especially at night. Psycho SSR makes all the difference tbh and I'm stoked that I can finally use it without frequent dips to the low 50s and mid 40s in dense areas. Very happy with my current performance/visual tradeoff. Thats a first.
Now to finish the main missions and big side missions which are, and always have been, excellent. This is how the game should have lauched...if you have the hardware it's finally an experience I would recommend.
Performance seems a lot more stable. Switching between balanced and quality dlss at 1440p with psycho ssr and medium/high for the rest and rarely dipping below 60. Forgot how fucking good this game can look, especially at night. Psycho SSR makes all the difference tbh and I'm stoked that I can finally use it without frequent dips to the low 50s and mid 40s in dense areas. Very happy with my current performance/visual tradeoff. Thats a first.
Now to finish the main missions and big side missions which are, and always have been, excellent. This is how the game should have lauched...if you have the hardware it's finally an experience I would recommend.
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nowhat
Member
Did I take too literally NPCs with day and night cycles too? Because Ultima V had them better when I played that way back on C128.
Reality Czar
Banned
IMO half the blame goes to Game Journalism, those staunch advocates of Mah Consumer Rights, who did jack shit to inquire why they were not allowed to see any advance footage, who kept promoting the game despite it, then as soon as it was convenient, turns against them. For how many years did they hype this game? And not a single one actually wanted to see console footage? For real? There have to be tends of thousands of these "investigative journalists" around the world, not a fucking one of them looked into this???
Like, if you fuckers had been doing your jobs, instead of bitching about tweets and boob sliders, we all would have seen this coming. They were fucking complicit.
Tbh i have tremendous respect for CDPR making good and coming out and giving refunds almost immediately. When Fallout 76 came out and was a shitshow, they didn't allow refunds at all. Compared to other companies CDPR has been incredibly transparent post-launch.
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Majukun
Member
yeah no, it's less about him taking things too literally and more about CDP marketing blatantly lying
hemo memo
Gold Member
The game fault goes beyond just performance. It is rooted in the game design itself. Even Valhalla (An Assassin's Creed Ubisoft game famous with that design philosophy) is not as bloated with that many markers as CP77. Also saying the game is unbalanced is a big understatement. Many useless skills it is like they forced the RPG design last minute.
Low Moral Fibre
Member
Marketing made this one of the biggest RPG launches ever but also probably killed the games legs once word of mouth spread.
There are so many open world games were you have near to zero interaction with the world and the NPCs just stand there doing nothing or are in noclip mode (GoT, Horizon, Days Gone and Spider-Man recently) so you can’t break the game as there is nothing to break. Cyberpunk made the mistake of giving you freedom but half arsing it which made it easy to ridicule.
I played it on PC and had a great time. Restarted last night and was hooked again. There is still a lot of jank and user unfriendly features so I can see why people were dissapointed but I got more than my money’s worth.
There are so many open world games were you have near to zero interaction with the world and the NPCs just stand there doing nothing or are in noclip mode (GoT, Horizon, Days Gone and Spider-Man recently) so you can’t break the game as there is nothing to break. Cyberpunk made the mistake of giving you freedom but half arsing it which made it easy to ridicule.
I played it on PC and had a great time. Restarted last night and was hooked again. There is still a lot of jank and user unfriendly features so I can see why people were dissapointed but I got more than my money’s worth.
Why ? Next gens CPUs & SSDs alone should allow massive increases in performance and visual quality accross the board with small efforts. The next gen launch is the chance for CDPR to redeem themselves and release a stand out product that could be well sold throughout the entire generation if they do it right. This + DLCs + the list of QoL improvements that we should get accross the year before the relaunch (as with any CDPR game) may well result in a night & day difference when next gen versions hit the market (but we should not dream of the impossible, I do not think that for example AI would be massively improved - I don't care personally -).
didn't get the sarcasm.
most of the time we as devs (I'm not a game dev, but this happens with any kind of software development) know when shit is broken, the QA people flood our queues with bugs to fix, but in the end the customer or higher ups are the ones who decide if the code goes live or not.
hemo memo
Gold Member
CDPR said the game will be released "when it's ready". They knew the game is broken. They hid the console versions. They didn't allowed the media to use their own footage in reviews. They did everything to cover up this disaster release. What is worse is how proud they are for being "pro-consumer".
CuteFaceJay
Member
They are opening a new studio in Vancouver
Prolly because of the dank money they made by selling this POS. LOL
when they guy writing the cheques orders to deploy the code, we just deploy the code. This has nothing to do with the developers, who probably wanted more time to work on the game.
All those problems you listed, those decisions taken by the people above us and its not exclusive to the gaming industry.
TheStam
Member
Happened to me too (pre patch). Had to reload an earlier save. Annoying.
nowhat
Member
Do you have tremendous respect for them not allowing own footage or not sending out console codes before release?
Or saying it runs "surprisingly well" on previous gen consoles? Where that was coming from?
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harmny
Banned
I wouldn't joke too much about that being a starfield shill.
harmny
Banned
Maybe for offering a refund to ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE that wanted to even if they had already finished the game and in the case of physical copies even allowing them to keep the game after the refund
nowhat
Member
...as if you're not a Cyberpunk shill?