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[shuri]

Sadly, from the many documentaries I've seen on the issue of rape in India, the justice system and more specifically; the police force has massive corruption issues and the extreme majority of rape cases are ignored unless the family of the victim has power. The horrible gang rape cases of last year that lead to riots created enough pressure on the GOV to do something about it, but it's going to take some time

 

[The Technomancer]

Wasn't this the plot of a Hugh Jackman movie? The name escapes me.

Prisoners. Really good movie. And yeah, the whole point is that the dad is clearly in the wrong and losing his mind

 

[diaspora]

Wasn't this the plot of a Hugh Jackman movie? The name escapes me.

Prisoners?

 

[Servbot24]

Indeed, but the world is not black and white. Human emotions are a complex prism.

Emotions have no bearing on law.

 

[John Kowalski]

It happened in India? Dude was probably guilty.

Fiction's evil twin?

 

[Palmer_v1]

Emotions have no bearing on law.

But they have bearing on your sentencing, right?

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

Ask the child, not the parent, and I know people who'd easily pick death.

I know what I would pick if I were that child, and that outlook informs my original post.

 

[Norua]

Not the right response but I would probably react the same way.

 

[Kirye]

If he had just killed the man, and KNEW that he truly did rape his daughter then I would completely understand.

But not knowing for sure and torturing the man... I don't know how I feel about that.

 

[1044]

ITT confirmed sadistic murderer gets more sympathy than man accused of committing rape who was tortured and killed.

Though this seems to be a very common mindset in these kinds of stories. I hope to hell I never become some girl's scapegoat.

 

[Fiktion]

I know what I would pick if I were that child, and that outlook informs my original post.

That's extremely presumptuous of you.

 

[Anoregon]

The question is if he committed murder.

Feeling that someone "really deserved it" does not somehow make it not murder. Premeditated, intentional killing of another human is murder regardless of what that person may have done.

 

[Gleethor]

I don't care how corrupt your country might be, you don't get to be judge, jury and (brutal) executioner.

 

[HeelPower]

One reason to think the "rapist" might be innocent is that he actually agreed to come to the father's house for dinner

had he committed rape,He'd more likely than not stay the hell away from the family to escape his crime.

 

[diaspora]

That's not the question. The question is if he committed murder.

Well, we know already that the answer is yes. He tortured and killed someone. Am I missing something or?

 

[Einbroch]

Can we keep the "women cry rape" narratives out of here? It's been shown that while it has happened, only 2 to 8 percent of rape reports are false, and that...

Relax. All I said was you can't always trust a teenager. This has nothing to do with rape but with the fact that teenagers lie about stuff all the time without thinking of the consequences. Grades, where they are, etc.

You certainly can't take what they say then commit a heinous act.

 

[Inflammable Slinky]

This is the kind of action I can see my vengeful side thinking of impulsively to someone who (allegedly!) raped one of my daughters. Just pure rage and revenge. But it's one thing to have those (hopefully fleeting) thoughts of revenge fantasy, and another to perform them on a person. Part of me totally understands the impulse....but the actual action of it is just awful. It's simply murder.

I also don't really follow the mindset of not wanting to give his kid a 'bad name' by prosecuting the rape. You know what will also give her a bad name? Having her be the daughter of that guy who tortured someone to death in their house. :\

The state of sex crime prosecution in India is so bad that the rapist being prosecuted is less likely than the daughter being victim of vigilante justice for being a whore.

Obviously the torture was way over the line and monstrous, but you have to keep in mind that there was no way in hell the rapist would have ever been punished by the courts

 

[NinjaBoiX]

Yeah, this was a supremely bad move.

So is rape. Is murdering a rapist more wrong than raping a murderer?

Haha, what the fuck is this, lol.

 

[AstroNut325]

How is there any logic in that thinking process? A rape victim gets to live, a murder victim doesn't. Murder and its consequences are objectively worse.

This. Can't imagine how ANYONE thinks different from this.

 

[Palmer_v1]

Assuming the guy really was guilty of rape, how fucking ballsy do you have to be to accept a dinner invitation from the father of the girl you raped?

 

[CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls]

 

[The Purple Pill]

so it was alleged rape?

So what happens, if that part never really happened, I guess this is where jumping to conclusions quick, is a bad idea, huh.

This reminds me of the movie, "Jagten".

 

[Warm Machine]

I don't care how corrupt your country might be, you don't get to be judge, jury and (brutal) executioner.

Who does though? If it is a case of the system being so corrupt that you can do evil and get away with it then what is the appropriate recourse?

 

[Zen_Arcade]

This. Can't imagine how ANYONE thinks different from this.

Debatably living with the trauma of being raped is worse then getting killed and not knowing you're dead.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

So this is like A Time to Kill only with more violence against the rapist?

I think he deserves jail, but I still can't sentence this man to life in prison.

 

[Volimar]

Based on what? Was his daughter ever given a rape kit to confirm if it was true?

Dude, it happened in India.

Yeah I don't get it either.

 

[More_Badass]

This is crazy. The "alleged" part is what makes this whole thing fucked up. What if that wasn't the guy...

This is just like that Alfred Hitchcock episode. Where the wife points out her alleged rapist and the husband kills him. And then she points out another guy...

 

[Valhelm]

I don't support this kind of vigilantism but I have no sympathy for the rapist.

 

[OrlanisWorks]

Feeling that someone "really deserved it" does not somehow make it not murder. Premeditated, intentional killing of another human is murder regardless of what that person may have done.

Seal Team 6 totally murdered Bin Laden, not that I have issue with that.

This dude royally messed up. Big mistake.

 

[Inferno313]

Assuming the guy really was guilty of rape, how fucking ballsy do you have to be to accept a dinner invitation from the father of the girl you raped?

A lot of people who commit crimes like rape don't even see themselves as criminals. The amount of young men that don't properly comprehend ideas of informed consent should show that for all we know, this man may have thought he never did anything wrong.

 

[Volimar]

Any of you guys ever see Irreversible?

 

[KHarvey16]

I have trouble understanding why some people will ask for empathy for one man acting on base desires but not the other.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Should've hide the body.

 

[SliceSabre]

Who does though? If it is a case of the system being so corrupt that you can do evil and get away with it then what is the appropriate recourse?

So that means you be corrupt as well and outright torture and kill someone based only on your daughter's word?

I realize people love their children but that is a serious crime and we really have no idea if the guy actually did it.

 

[HeelPower]

Assuming the guy really was guilty of rape, how fucking ballsy do you have to be to accept a dinner invitation from the father of the girl you raped?

Yup.

I think this just goes to show that the guy may have indeed been innocent.

Anyone would probably try to avoid anything to do with a family whose member you raped.

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

That's extremely presumptuous of you.

How is it presumptuous to say that I would prefer to be raped than murdered, and that my belief informs my morality?

I think it goes without saying that I'm posting from my own viewpoint, and not trying to speak for you, or those who disagree.

 

[Verdre]

Who does though? If it is a case of the system being so corrupt that you can do evil and get away with it then what is the appropriate recourse?

Sometimes there isn't an appropriate recourse.

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

Disgusting behavior from both the rapist and the father. Hope he gets what he deserves.

The rapist? He wasn't a convicted rapist, his only behavior was getting murdered. Goddamn ya'll innocent until proven guilty.

 

[DoktorEvil]

Dude, it happened in India.

Yeah I don't get it either.

Meaning it's ok to be Charles Bronson in India now?

Is there any other article discussing the case in detail?

 

[Rad-]

Well I really hope he was guilty at least... The fact that he went to see the father makes me think he might have been innocent.

 

[Warm Machine]

Sometimes there isn't an appropriate recourse.

So is no justice better than some justice?

 

[cyberheater]

If I was the girls father. I'd feel the same way too.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

If the alleged rapist was guilty, then I'm totally OK with this.

This is a frightening post.

That's not the question. The question is if he committed murder.

That is not the question at all.

 

[Draxal]

I have trouble understanding why some people will ask for empathy for one man acting on base desires but not the other.

In this case, because the justice system/culture is flawed.

 

[esms]

I probably wouldn't kill but I would have beat the shit out of him.

Yeah, I'd rather catch an assault and battery charge than a murder rap.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

So is no justice better than some justice?

When you can't even prove that you're administering justice to the right person? Yes, obviously.

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

So is no justice better than some justice?

Where was the justice here? Hell it's very possible we just read a story about an innocent man being tortured and murdered for nothing.

 

[TheSeks]

Good. Yeah, he'll be punished for it but good riddance.

How is it good? Alleged or not, you don't do this. The father had no evidence that what his daughter said was true. He had no investigation into it. He simply killed a man on a word from his daughter.

Let's flip this: If you were the man that was killed and you didn't do what people think you did, would you still say "good?"

 

[Warm Machine]

Where was the justice here? Hell it's very possible we just read a story about an innocent man being tortured and murdered for nothing.

assuming guilt, obviously.

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

assuming guilt, obviously.

We should probably be assuming innocence no?