Dark Souls II - Graphics Comparison - PC Preview

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I am a huge pc gamer nowadays, but refusing to buy this game is like knocking back Super Mario 3 because it does not do parallax scrolling/mapping.

We have are going to have the best version of an amazing game, lap it up dudes.
Well, its more like if Nintendo previewed SM3 and there was a shit ton of parallax scrolling and then they released the game without it. So in the middle of playing a legendary game, I would probably wonder at some point how it could have been even more legendary. And then I would keep on playing.
 

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Well, its more like if Nintendo previewed SM3 and there was a shit ton of parallax scrolling and then they released the game without it. So in the middle of playing a legendary game, I would probably wonder at some point how it could have been even more legendary. And then I would keep on playing.
I completely understand where you are coming from, but the fact is that in my head I expected nothing more than a competent version after the problems with the original, they have exceeded my expectations this time :)

I do still wish the lighting was up to the tgs demo quality though,but a great game is a great game no matter what.
 

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But why PC version must suffer if PS3/X360 just can't handle new lighting engine in full force?
Budgetary and time concerns got in the way of ambition.

More likely attributed to budgetary concerns where they didn't have the overhead to justify investing in features that would only be seen by ~30% of their target audience.

That is not a smart business move.
 

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Gameplay parity.
Well, I think that every platform must have all that it deserves. If PS3/X360 won't have some gameplay mechanics cuz they can't handle new lighting engine, let them suffer because of it.

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From has a much and much better lighting system than even Bethesda can afford (and they don't care about it), such a shame that From will not use it in full force on PC but as I said before, I will buy the game no matter what.
 

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I completely understand where you are coming from, but the fact is that in my head I expected nothing more than a competent version after the problems with the original, they have exceeded my expectations this time :)

I do still wish the lighting was up to the tgs demo quality though,but a great game is a great game no matter what.
Hey, you're preaching to the choir, my Hollow brethren! Just made it to Iron Keep, 60 hours strong and going. Hopefully will be done with the first playthrough in time for the PC version. 60fps is going to be glorious.
 

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bare minimum expectations reached = no arguments to be made.
Yeah, there's this as well. Yes, this is by all rights a much better port than DS1, but that port was a travesty. Why should we celebrating mediocrity simply because it's better than failure?
 

Yoshichan

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I'm so curious to hear your impressions once you've finished it. I mean, it doesn't drop off in the second half like Dark, but it does have a Lost Izalith 2.0
Oh.

Fuck me.
 

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But you'll support "fraudulent practices" later, but to a lesser degree.
There is a bit of a difference between being accounted among the day1/preorder fans and being part of the cheapo long-tail noise. Being there day1 signals that the marketing department was right in bullshitting the fans.
 

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To be honest FromSoftware tried so hard, and they did get quite far. But in the end it doesn't even matter anymore.
 

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Yeah, there's this as well. Yes, this is by all rights a much better port than DS1, but that port was a travesty. Why should we celebrating mediocrity simply because it's better than failure?
We should move the goalposts to just "fun".
 
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I'm so curious to hear your impressions once you've finished it. I mean, it doesn't drop off in the second half like Dark, but it does have a Lost Izalith 2.0
What part do you consider to be Lost Izalith 2.0? Feel free to cover it in spoiler tags.
 

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From has a much and much better lighting system than even Bethesda can afford (and they don't care about it), such a shame that From will not use it in full force on PC but as I said before, I will buy the game no matter what.
You aren't referring to Beast, are you? Because that's fully leveraged in the console and PC retail versions.
 

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You aren't referring to Beast, are you? Because that's fully leveraged in the console and PC retail versions.
All I'm saying is From do not need a huge budget to aford a good lighting engine cuz they already have it, but Bethesda just don't care much about this stuff, only moders do care and thank god for them (^_^)
 

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Pretty sure all the meat to this story has been stripped to the bone guys

Only thing left I would love to see is their next media interview.

Assuming the outlet interviewing them hammers on this issue.

Did the Japanese media pick up on this story also?

Im not hearing a damn word out of them
 

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Hey, you're preaching to the choir, my Hollow brethren! Just made it to Iron Keep, 60 hours strong and going. Hopefully will be done with the first playthrough in time for the PC version. 60fps is going to be glorious.
I have left myself untainted with information except the recent PC footage, and it looks great to me, I just hope it maintains the quality the whole way through this time.
 

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Pretty sure all the meat to this story has been stripped to the bone guys

Only thing left I would love to see is their next media interview.

Assuming the outlet interviewing them hammers on this issue.

Did the Japanese media pick up on this story also?

Im not hearing a damn word out of them
We got a few articles here and there, like this one on forbes, reporting about the lack of pre-release lighting and geometry in the PC build.

I hope FraudSoftware and Scamco don't get out of this too easily.
 

Yoshichan

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How will PC 60fps change the timings of dodge and other shit? The game is designed for 30fps?
 

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How will PC 60fps change the timings of dodge and other shit? The game is designed for 30fps?
So increasing the frame rate doesn't change the timescale in any way.

A second is still the same length of time, you have just doubled the frames rendered over that time period.

You will be able to see and respond to threats quicker. At 30 FPS, a frame is only rendered every .03 seconds while at 60 FPS every .01 seconds.

any confirmation of frame rate limits yet? can we do 120?
We have been asking, but haven't heard anything.
 

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It's not "designed for 30" since the framerate is unlocked and not exactly 30 most of the time on either of the console versions.
any confirmation of frame rate limits yet? can we do 120?
How will PC 60fps change the timings of dodge and other shit? The game is designed for 30fps?
Yup, the framerate is unlocked on consoles this time. Dark Souls 1 on PC feels really weird to me at 60fps, no matter how hard I tried to get used to it. I think it will feel much better this time considering it's not locked out of the box, and it seems that way from the previews.

I asked PC gamer on twitter if they managed to get above 60fps, didn't get an answer.
 

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What part do you consider to be Lost Izalith 2.0? Feel free to cover it in spoiler tags.
The
Black Gulch

Good thing is
you can run through it to the boss gate in 30 seconds
, but it's still some of the worst level design I've ever seen in my many years of gaming.
 

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Yup, the framerate is unlocked on consoles this time. Dark Souls 1 on PC feels really weird to me at 60fps, no matter how hard I tried to get used to it. I think it will feel much better this time considering it's not locked out of the box, and it seems that way from the previews.

I asked PC gamer on twitter if they managed to get above 60fps, didn't get an answer.
I really want the original to get a remake/update someday

Talk about a game I can replay over and over
 

Yoshichan

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Shit. Had no idea DkS2 was unlocked fps on console... god damn.
 

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I really want the original to get a remake/update someday

Talk about a game I can replay over and over
Why? The only thing we need is GFWL removal.

First shot is Stallion's

Shit. Had no idea DkS2 was unlocked fps on console... god damn.
Apparently, they just rarely go above 30.

I believe the 360 version has better frame rate overall.
 

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Why? The only thing we need is GFWL removal.



First shot is Stallion's



Apparently, they just rarely go above 30.

I think the 360 version has better frame rate overall.
Because my pc

Also the mods arent exactly 100% reliable.

I have literally spent hours troubleshooting the damn game one time I tried to reinstall everything on a new machine

Give me Dark Souls remastered collection on PS4 please.

Also PC is flooded with chester cheetahs
 

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Because my pc

Also the mods arent exactly 100% reliable.

I have literally spent hours troubleshooting the damn game one time I tried to reinstall everything on a new machine

Give me Dark Souls remastered collection on PS4 please.

Also PC is flooded with chester cheetahs
The only mod that matters is 100% reliable, and in 200+ hours and tons of PVP i can count the cheaters i've seen on 1 hand.

The PS3 version of dark souls 2 has a much bigger problem with people using edited save games.