Its a gaslighting tactic. They will use innocuous symbols as code so when they are called out on it they can point to their accusers as being hysterical. It happened with the OK sign. Of course /pol/ says they were trailing but they think being white supremacists is also trolling.At 10:40 she says the "ok hand gesture" is a secret symbol of fascism.
I heard that was just 4chan trolling. What's the truth?
Edit: she goes on to explain that she views that as a intentional diversion to discredit SJWs, etc.
At 10:40 she says the "ok hand gesture" is a secret symbol of fascism.
I heard that was just 4chan trolling. What's the truth?
Edit: she goes on to explain that she views that as a intentional diversion to discredit SJWs, etc.
I mostly loved it, though some parts of the video could be a little alienating to centrists who would perceive a tone of them being talked down.
I mostly loved it, though some parts of the video could be a little alienating to centrists who would perceive a tone of them being talked down.
Well, I don't blame Contra, centrists falling for fascist propaganda and equating it as the right-wing counterpart to progressivism is extremely frustrating.I mostly loved it, though some parts of the video could be a little alienating to centrists who would perceive a tone of them being talked down.
I mostly loved it, though some parts of the video could be a little alienating to centrists who would perceive a tone of them being talked down.
Anyone actually reachable won't be turned off by a little honesty.
Contra is a breath of fresh air in a sea of insanity that is YouTube. I suggest watching all her videos, they're all well worth a watch.
Well, I don't blame Contra, centrists falling for fascist propaganda and equating it as the right-wing counterpart to progressivism is extremely frustrating.
I mostly loved it, though some parts of the video could be a little alienating to centrists who would perceive a tone of them being talked down.
I'm at work so I can't watch the video, but didn't the OK hand gesture start as a mainstream meme because of the emoji?At 10:40 she says the "ok hand gesture" is a secret symbol of fascism.
I heard that was just 4chan trolling. What's the truth?
Edit: she goes on to explain that she views that as a intentional diversion to discredit SJWs, etc.
I'm at work so I can't watch the video, but didn't the OK hand gesture start as a mainstream meme because of the emoji?
Like, I'm sure a disproportionate amount of altrighters use it, but it definitely has an innocuous presence in mainstream consciousness. Some of the kids at work use it, and one or two are sketchy, but the rest definitely aren't.
What I want people to take away from this video is an ability to perceive the general strategies fascists use, not just the particular symbology they happen to use at this particular moment. Pepe, milk, the OK sign, Kekistan: all of this is quickly being abandoned by savvy fascists. Normies have caught on. It's on the news. People recognize it as fascist. So it won't work anymore. They'll shift to something else, probably something even more subtle. The only way to keep up is to watch fascists closely or listen to people who do.
At 10:40 she says the "ok hand gesture" is a secret symbol of fascism.
I heard that was just 4chan trolling. What's the truth?
Edit: she goes on to explain that she views that as a intentional diversion to discredit SJWs, etc.
Definetly watch to get everything out of the video.
Is this the kind of video I can get something out of by listening to or is this the kind of video I should watch with my eyes?
it started as that, but then immediately shifted from ironic trolling joke to actual covert fascist symbol like everything else /pol does.
Centrists in the US seem weird to me anyway, it seems like they pick the centrist label first and then the positions to go along with that. But then again that seems to be the case with Republicans too, why the hell would an average person believe Climate Change is fake?
It's quite the phenomenon how things on 4chan go from ironic trolling to being embraced un-ironically by those not in on the joke. (Bronies being a benevolent example.)
The video definitely has a lot of imagery that needs to be seen for the point to click.Is this the kind of video I can get something out of by listening to or is this the kind of video I should watch with my eyes?
Also, the "OK" symbol is definitely gaslighting and we should just go ahead and assume people throwing it up are what they are. You can't allow these people to run around shouting "hell Hitler" then do the "haha, look at all the triggered normies, I was just joking."
Thanks. Saved for later, then.
i'd argue that for a lot of them it was never a joke to begin with. creating a refuge for ever increasing extremes of "ironically" awful behavior will very quickly get you a population of unironic bigots.
The video definitely has a lot of imagery that needs to be seen for the point to click.
Yeah, I got into a climate change argument with a proposed centrist yesterday too. His argument was that it "could" be caused by all these other factors like volcanic action or sunflares, etc. etc. so he doesnt know which science to trust. So I told him to trust what's been proven. His response - "How do you know it's proven?? What if we find out our proven science was wrong later??" - :/
He's also of the mind that no news can be trusted. FOX News is crazy right, but any other news CNN, VICE, Headline, NYT is far left. No politicians can be trusted.
It seems like a centrists general stance is confusion, and indecision over everything. They don't educate themselves enough on anything.
Centrists in the US seem weird to me anyway, it seems like they pick the centrist label first and then the positions to go along with that. But then again that seems to be the case with Republicans too, why the hell would an average person believe Climate Change is fake?
Yeah, I got into a climate change argument with a proposed centrist yesterday too. His argument was that it "could" be caused by all these other factors like volcanic action or sunflares, etc. etc. so he doesnt know which science to trust. So I told him to trust what's been proven. His response - "How do you know it's proven?? What if we find out our proven science was wrong later??" - :/
He's also of the mind that no news can be trusted. FOX News is crazy right, but any other news CNN, VICE, Headline, NYT is far left. No politicians can be trusted.
It seems like a centrists general stance is confusion, and indecision over everything. They don't educate themselves enough on anything.
Forcing nazis underground does limit their reach, the more they have to encrypt their message the fewer people they reach. China has observed that with dissidents.
People sometimes claim that it's better to keep them in the open...