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Deport Racism releases video of Latino American children telling off Donald Trump
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Alligatorjandro
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I have no problem with this.
Yup. It's easy to say the bolded when you aren't the target for being called an anchor baby, illegal, wetback, spic, rapist, drug dealer and murderer.
hydrophilic attack
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The sad thing about all this is that this will probably increase his popularity with his base
I don't really understand this type of activism. You're telling the people who you want to impact to go fuck themselves. Basically these videos are designed to make the people who already agree with them to be all "YYAAASSS PREACH". Meanwhile, actual racists and people on the fence will only feel attacked and go on the defensive, further pushing them away from the message.
Or rather, honestly, it's designed to be as viral as possible and sell t-shirts.
Or rather, honestly, it's designed to be as viral as possible and sell t-shirts.
Veritigo_X
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If some kids cursing makes people feel attacked and go on the defensive I doubt any message would change their minds. The idea of people "on the fence" about racism is kinda funny though.
Well, on the fence about voting for Trump or whatever. I'm assuming they're assuming there exists some portion of the population, a target demographic, that can be affected positively by this sort of activism. If not, why make the video?
...To sell t-shirts, right.
PhantomFear
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Now we wait for Trump to release of video of him swearing at those kids.
Earthstrike
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To be honest, I think it's strategic. More of an attempt to boost Trump's numbers because of the effect you mention. Trump winning the GOP primary is the best thing possible for Hilary.
RevengeOfDoh
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You said it when you made a comparison of the kids swearing and cheapening a message and people actively working towards discriminating against them. One is clearly worse than the other, but nah, let's just focus on kids saying fuck or pendejo because it was scripted.
I never made that argument and that's not the argument you made in your post that I quoted..
Why? Because it politicizes them? Cheapens the message? What people with delicate sensibilities are missing is the fact that the act of swearing is rooted in empowerment. See, they're kids. They're supposed to be curious, but not too curious. Quiet, but not too quiet. And most of all, obedient. Well Fuck that noise. I'm not saying that I'm going to let my kid swear whenever and wherever they are, but I'm going to say that there's a time and place to do it. The ad is one such outlet. This isn't that white girl spewing political venom while being coached by her mother to get into a book signing with Trump.
They semi-mystical fence sitters always come up. Frankly if they are that fickle they can stay whereever they are at clutching their pearls
If there aren't any, why engage in activism? Isn't that the whole point, to convert new people to your cause? I suppose you could say that isn't the point, it's to motivate and activate people who already agree. That's nice, but it won't make a difference in the voting booths. Edit: Or actually yeah it would, if those people would have otherwise skipped voting altogether. Guess that's something, at least.
yep, i remember other ads using this, it's always awful and seems like something adults made them do.
Veritigo_X
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Honestly, if anyone is actually on the fence I think it's safe to call a spade a spade.
I don't think the point of this video was to convince anyone to stop being racist. The point is to energize people to get out to vote. This is a problem democrats have, so it actually will make a difference.
Skiptastic
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Then I wasn't clear enough. I was never intending to compare the two sides. I was saying that the message the kids had was good in my third paragraph. All of the problems they brought up were valid points and I like that they talk about them. What I don't like is how they conveyed that message. That's my bad.
Never meant to imply that you did. gutter_trash's comment came off to me as making that argument and I was arguing that is not the case. Again, my bad on that.
I don't see it as empowerment when you give a child something to say that is intended to sensationalize. I see that as exploitation. If the kids came up with that shit on their own, that's cool. But I highly doubt that they did. (Maybe the older kid with braces, but that little girl? Come on.) But I'm in new dad mode (just had my first son 11 weeks ago) so who knows how I'll feel in 11 years.
This makes things a bit clearer to me. The ad is clearly not intended for me, even though I will be voting and definitely not for Trump lol.
MHWilliams
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This just feels like the wrong way to go about it.
DontBeThatGuy
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Nothing justifies that.
DonasaurusRex
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are they kidding with this? Trump is a rude prick , why make a video full of kids stooping to his level?
To show that Trump is infact a man child I'd imagine. This video isn't trying to convince anyone who's in agreement with Trump's ideas and feelings. At least that's how I'm taking it.
Mah man Slay, laying the truth.
MagnaderAlpha
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I don't see this as being anything more than letting off steam. I can't see this sway people's opinion, and if anything, given HOW Republicans and Conservatives act, they'll just find some way to spin into how "minorities are vulgar and low-class" and are "criminals in the making".
Though, just reading the phrase "deport racism"... someone might have a point there. Maybe it's high time to round up all the racists and deport them to, I don't know, Russia. Yeah, that sounds about right!
So FCKH8 not only created some terrible videos, they created a terrible trend.
Anger, in at least a lot of cases, only serves to reinforce those that already support you. We know how hard it is to convince people to change their minds on subjects (especially more "deeply-held" ones like racism and religion) and how this angle is hugely detrimental. You will get no empathy or establish a sense of relation/comparable lives. Sure, people these ads target may in fact deserve to be ridiculed -- but the point is to make an understanding shift in the culture and not give them more reasons to dislike you.
Anger, in at least a lot of cases, only serves to reinforce those that already support you. We know how hard it is to convince people to change their minds on subjects (especially more "deeply-held" ones like racism and religion) and how this angle is hugely detrimental. You will get no empathy or establish a sense of relation/comparable lives. Sure, people these ads target may in fact deserve to be ridiculed -- but the point is to make an understanding shift in the culture and not give them more reasons to dislike you.
Gordon Shumway
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lol..yes deport those Americans because I can't stand them!
What an ill (and idiotic) post.
The Spoony Hou
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I know I was laughing the whole time, lol. I don't see an issue.
UltraGunner
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This is no worse than those parents that have their kids pose with their guns to spread messages against gun control. At least this form of child exploitation is being used for a good cause.
Stereogatari
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Would have been cool if they had White Hispanic kids in the video too. Just to confuse the racists.
dapperbandit
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"Deport this!"
lol okay
This video preaches to a small choir who are already on board, I think for most people its off-putting. It makes the whole pro-immigration/anti-deportation crowd look bad.
"Ours is the sensible, moral position, and that's why we manipulate children to shout fuck on camera and offer a standing bounty for disrupting a political opponent on SNL."
lol okay
This video preaches to a small choir who are already on board, I think for most people its off-putting. It makes the whole pro-immigration/anti-deportation crowd look bad.
"Ours is the sensible, moral position, and that's why we manipulate children to shout fuck on camera and offer a standing bounty for disrupting a political opponent on SNL."
What's weird is even though he has a pac out for Hillary, he linked to Bernie Sander's Feel The Bern pac on his site. Looks like he removed it now though.
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