DashReindeer
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Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut [Up: Off-Screen play confirmed]
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The GamePad is more than a little neat. For those of us who dig what it's got to offer, I daresay it's one of the best controllers ever.
frankie_baby
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i'd actually say interest in me3 was pretty good and it may even have sold at batman level until the trilogy was announced
SquiddyCracker
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This is all really awesome stuff.
Even though we didn't get any new game content, we will probably get the sequel on Wii U as they've gone through a lot of effort porting over the Deus Ex engine.
70k US only or WW?
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Man those are a LOT of sexy changes. The only one I absolutely NEED to come to other versions is the New Game +.
even if it is just off tv play. I would buy most multiplats on wiiu just for that feature. Not to discredit everything else they are doing with the pad.
IcyRhythms
Member
Surely these new improvements won't stay exclusive. A simple patch could put make some of these things available on other platforms.
Wow. Talk about hive-minding/mass generalisations...
Isn't there quite a lot of improvments/additions to MH3 Ultimate? And even so, everyone is fully aware it's not a new game and would prefer a new installment instead.
As far as Deus ex goes, I've seen most people here praising this directors cut if anything. Where are people complaining? Most of the people bemoaning it don't sound like the 'Nintendo fans'to me. I'm a Nintendo fan and I'm thrilled to bits with this news
The only reason i didn't pick it up yet, it was probably "the" launch game i was looking forward to most. I'll get it when it hits bargain bin price though. Same for Batman, which is now 15 pounds on Amazon. I'll be ordering it some point this week.
I don't mind old ports, i don't even mind paying (nearly) full price if the effort put in is worth it. I do mind being taken for a fool though.
US-only, probably.
From what I recall, there are only three third-party Wuu games that have broken 100k in the US--ZombiU, Sonic Kart and Scribblenauts.
frankie_baby
Member
me too, i was fairly interested myself and as a wii only owner i'd never got to play any of them but thought they seemed worth getting into, the trilogy killed my desire to buy it, handily i got a copy free with my wii u still not got round to playing it for more than 10 minutes though
frankie_baby
Member
and just dance 4
mentalfloss
Banned
Off screen play confirmed?
Definitive version indeed!
Definitive version indeed!
friskykillface
Banned
i'll play the demo at pax on friday and those added features sound great.
off tv play <3
but dat $50 is still hard to swallow
off tv play <3
but dat $50 is still hard to swallow
Colonel Mustard
Banned
They wouldn't patch the current release. They'd push out a new SKU. (Barring the PC)
frankie_baby
Member
a simple patch costs a bucket of money on ps360
My point was that it's strange people keep complaining about late ports at full price but nearly nobody is complaining about MH3U (neither here nor in the other Wii U threads). MH3U is also a late port (very late) at full price, just like Deus Ex, Need For Speed, Batman, ME3,...
And another thing that I'm wondering: music albums and movies get re-releases with additional content and/or remasterd at full price (or a even at a higher price) all the time even though the original release is still available at a lower price, even for the same "platform" and there are still people buying these re-releases.
Exactly and I doubt it would tempt people to dust off their 2 year old copies and pay for it either.
TreasureHunterG
Banned
The bonus are great, indeed. But how will perform? I hope they don't fuck up the framerate like ME3 and Batman were and don't cost 50$ or this will not sell.
Well hopefully, seeing as this is supposedly the sane dev that did ME3 port, they'll have got the hang of the hardware y now. They'd technically be one of the most experienced WiiU devs out there, lol.
The truth is somewhere in the middle dude. This enhanced port will most likely not enjoy the marketing the main release of the game got. The casual players won't be aware of is release most likely. The informed players, which will know it's coming out, may or may not support it depending on more informed parameters. How well did releases like RE 4 ps3 do? Or even bioshock ps3. How much did that sell? That's somewhat of a more fair comparison than wind waker (even though re is a much larger franchise than de)
Probably because Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate has more new content than most sequels do these days.
There's no way in hell they'd give it all away for free, and little reason to patch it too, unless they really value more sales on those platforms @ $20 or less.
Ken Masters
Banned
this actually sounds awesome, and the official in-game strategy guide being available at any time in the menus is really sweet
I seriously think I will pick this up as I haven't played this game yet. The $50 price isn't going to last, it will drop to $30 in no time after release
frankie_baby
Member
i'm quite interested to see what their next game will be, i'd guess another wii u port hopefully something a little more timely though
it will probabaly be fine considering those games were made on in flux dev kits with little documentation and in a short time period. I bet they have learned a lot since then.
I have also heard those performance issues were over exagerated or only in certain instances. But I have played neither on any console.
TheNatural
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Wind Waker isn't a remake. Upgrading the textures and doing some "fixes" is more than the list of the things for this game in the OP?
And the irony is many of the same people are claiming the Wii U userbase is well informed to know that 360 or PS3 have some minute extras, but at the same time beating the drum about market confusion and people not knowing what a Wii U is compared to the Wii is hilarious.
I was one of the ones out there selling this shit during the holidays, and the handful of Wii U purchases were soccer moms coming in buying it for their kids for Christmas and had more purchases of Wheel of Fortune Wii U than Mass Effect. You have no idea what the Wii U demographic is.
Willy Wanka
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I have to say, the full list of additions and improvements is impressive. I kind of wish I hadn't played through it twice already but anybody playing it for the first time is in for a treat.
PRjumpman124
Member
All the extra content, fixed boss battles, and off TV play? Well played, I'll be getting.
We don't know the exact feature set of ww hd. But by all accounts, a remake of a 10 year old game with at least a significant graphic update in a beloved franchise that has a history with the Nintendo audience is not the most ideal comparison here. Compare it with something like bioshock ps3 or re 4 ps3. That's somewhat more fit
KillerTravis
Banned
Would you say you are a Wii U Demographics Expert?
Yeah the 2nd wave of games, even if they're ports, will be interesting. We'll be starting to see what developers have managed with final devkits for a start, plus if they've had experience already that should help.
Zoramon089
Banned
Uhh, I'd say completely redoing aspects of the visuals including a new lighting system and other changes that we probably haven't heard about constitutes a remake. I'm not sure why you're even clinging to a game we barely know anything and posing hypothetical about it...
Also the people confused comparing the Wii to the Wii U probably aren't the people who currently own it so I'm not sure what your point is. But hey, it's my anecdotal evidence against yours so we really shouldn't go down that route.
As much as I've said I think porting this game to wii u seems to be a lost cause, there is simply no way I can argue against that list of improvements and additions over the base game. If all late wii U ports were like this game and Nfs:MW, from the start, I'd probably be a Wii U owner today.
frankie_baby
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the original IP was funky barn
TheNatural
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Ding, ding, ding. This is my point.
The point is, people aren't going to buy Deus Ex, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed, and so on because there's all these people sitting on the internet nitpicking what is or isn't in it compared to other versions. People aren't buying them because that's not the type of games that sell to Nintendo's demographic.
No one is playing some kind of videogame operant conditioning when they decide to buy a game. They go buy it, because they wanna go play the fucking game, not "well this company DESERVES my money, so I'm going to buy it!" They want to go play Legend of Zelda. They don't want to go play Deus Ex. If they did, they would have a 360 or PS3.
The Wii U owners bitching about third party support never had any intention of buying the games in the first place, they're just looking for some excuse to complain when Rockstar says Grand Theft Auto isn't coming, or Konami says Metal Gear isn't coming. Nothing more. The ones complaining probably never even played the original Deus Ex on PC.
radioheadrule83
Banned
I just followed your conversation with GrotesqueBeauty and others back to this point, and I'm struggling to understand the need for it.
People were down on the port until this thread and the reveal that actually it looks like a good job. There are plenty of Human Revolution fans in here saying they want to pick it up, and Eidos are already getting requests for ports... What evidence or reasoning gives you carte blanche to suggest that a significant amount of people on the forum will turn sour on it if sales disappoint?
Is it because it facilitates some tired, baseless argument you want to peddle? That some posters only care about their console-player in a console-war? That there is "no audience" for certain games on Nintendo platforms? Point us to the evidence for either conclusion.
The truth for games on any platform is this: if people learn of good games, believe they will be fun, and the games represent good value - people will buy them. Reasonable development efforts and marketing are required to convince people of that, and to educate and inform them - but by and large, people buy in to good products. All of the early third party ports for this machine so far HAVE been lacking or have fallen short in various ways. Personally, I've enjoyed some of the supposedly flawed ports myself (Batman, AC3 -- I think Batman is the best version of the game), but NFS:MW and this game appear to be the first ports with some real added content and effort on the developer's part to warrant some interest from those who've played the games before. I don't see what makes you think people will treat the latter games like the former... or what makes you think they'd want to. Those here who've told me this was one of the best games in the generation should surely be happy that people who haven't played it yet, will now get to. Nintendo console owners of a certain age and taste should be looking at this and feeling relieved that the dreary port schedule at least has one more potential gem...
I don't see why everything here has to be squabbling, generalisation and character assassination. That's what that whole conversation read like.
I'm thinking the same thing too. I don't see how Deus Ex HR on Wii U would be a bad thing considering the overhaul. It certainly beats having no Deus Ex on a Nintendo console.
Ding ding ding! My point is that these ports of two year old games arent going to be big sellers irrespective of the platform they release on and making am assumption about the platforms audience as a result of their sales is asinine. The expectations should be low because of the nature of the product (and is lack of marketing). Not wii us audience.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Of course, but..people are stupid. WW HD in terms of quality and changes look like it'll shit on any HD remake ever made. And we still dont know alot about it.
edit: Well people are not stupid just unknowledgeable
Zoramon089
Banned
Yeah, except for the fact that an audience liking one type of game doesn't mean they don't like another. You act like fans of WW and DE are mutually exclusive which is completely baseless.
Not to mention your second point...I feel like you're just trying to rile up people. Obviously the people complaining are the people who would want those games on the system. I'm not sure what line of logic allowed you to arrive at the conclusion that they're complaining just to complain
I guess the question isn't "Are people going to buy it" but "Are you going to buy it (at some point)". People are already portbegging this to be on other platforms but stuff like GamePad features and Off-TV play, play Miiverse integration make it scream that if they ever do try to release a Director's Cut on other platforms, they're going to have to remove said features just to make the quick buck.
In other words, it seems more time and effort has been involved in it than, say Mass Effect 3. It kinda feels it was worked on from the ground up for the WiiU rather than shoehorned (compared to other ports).
In other words, it seems more time and effort has been involved in it than, say Mass Effect 3. It kinda feels it was worked on from the ground up for the WiiU rather than shoehorned (compared to other ports).
They would have to spam ads heavily for this. That or cleaver marketing. They need to show the Wii U exclusive features, then maybe cut quickly to say stuff about it being remastered/redesigned segments.
radioheadrule83
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