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DF: Battlefield Hardline Beta Performance Analysis 720p X1, 900p PS4, Framerate issue
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Can Crusher
Banned
Why is the PC version at 1080p?
Isn't GTX 780/GTX 980 meant for higher rez? At leas super sample that shit.
Isn't GTX 780/GTX 980 meant for higher rez? At leas super sample that shit.
I am factoring in that BF4 was a clearly rushed launch game and that Frostbite and both console SDKs have been updated quite a few times since then. I also only notice framedrops on this and BF4 in 64 player so I was kind of hoping they could up the res at least for other modes. Also they did say it would be 1080/60.
It's really the assets that are a huge letdown. Better AA and assets would have gone a long way.
Terbinator
Member
It definitely looks and performs better than BF4 on PC having a quick run around. I can play at 50FPS+ on ultra @ 4K with MSAA and HBAO off on a stock 4770/Titan, BF4 is around 40+.
The PC version is actually at 1080 w/ 125% sampling as mentioned a few pages back.
JigglesBunny
Banned
Yeah, the game is certainly not a looker...
Even still, Battlefield 4 never really "clicked" with me and Hardline has. Even back playing the Beta for Battlefield 4, something had always felt off and I never had any fun with it.
But since the second the Hardline Beta launched, I've been hooked. Granted, I've had Strep throat all week and have had time to sit around in my dorm but still; the damn thing is a blast.
Even still, Battlefield 4 never really "clicked" with me and Hardline has. Even back playing the Beta for Battlefield 4, something had always felt off and I never had any fun with it.
But since the second the Hardline Beta launched, I've been hooked. Granted, I've had Strep throat all week and have had time to sit around in my dorm but still; the damn thing is a blast.
Probably because 1080p it's considered the 'standard' resolution for the face off, it's nothing of new.
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
I personally am really looking forward to Hardline. This and the Handsome Collection are my day 1 purchases for the next few months.
it don't think it looks bland at least on PC. and i find this game to be more enjoyable than BF4.
there are also some other interesting maps like Growhouse, Riptide, hollywood heights
Yikes...
And I'm itching for a new FPS since CoD:AW sucked.
Looks like my PS4 is gonna be a wasteland of fps games until maybe November
PS4 is and will be a wasteland for FPS till Rainbow Six
I can't believe people still get excited for these generic yearly titles from EActivision. They really have nothing going for them anymore.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Too bad. Hotwire is a really fun game mode. Dust bowl is sort of ugly but it's good for conquest.
Never understand people saying this should only be $15 or $20... Just a weird logic leap to me. And praying something fails is honestly kind of dickish.
That aside I have to admit I'm enjoying the hell out of the beta, getting some major battlefield Vietnam vibes which is great! Keeping my preorder for sure hoping the new single life per round modes are fun too
That aside I have to admit I'm enjoying the hell out of the beta, getting some major battlefield Vietnam vibes which is great! Keeping my preorder for sure hoping the new single life per round modes are fun too
TheShocker
Member
I'm downloading the PS4 version now just for shits and giggles. I want to see what it looks like graphically compared to the XB1 version. I have BF4 on Xbox and am perfectly happy with it and have 150+ hours logged into it.
I have no intentions of buying Hardlineat full price, despite liking the concept of the game. They had a full dev cycle and multiple SDK improvements on both consoles and it looks worse than BF4. I just can't wrap my head around that.
I have no intentions of buying Hardlineat full price, despite liking the concept of the game. They had a full dev cycle and multiple SDK improvements on both consoles and it looks worse than BF4. I just can't wrap my head around that.
Read my mind.
njean777
Member
EA wasting another devs talents on a boring game? Who would have guessed?
No, it's not bullshit. That's a direct feed screenshot.
That said, what you're getting at without actually realizing it is the factor of view distance and display type.
The type of display you use combined with the distance from which you sit can increase or decrease your perception of visual artifacts. I can admit that, from my normal viewing distance on a good plasma, the game looks better than those screenshots suggest. That has no bearing on what the system is actually outputting.
This is why image quality tends to be more important on the PC front - most people play PC games in front of an LCD monitor. Sitting that close to an LCD display is the most difficult of situations for managing good image quality, I've found. You need better anti-aliasing and higher resolutions to compensate for the viewing distance and display type.
As a reverse example try playing a game on a nice CRT PC monitor. You'll find that higher resolutions suddenly become less useful due to the nature of the display. 1024x768 with 4x MSAA on a CRT looks absolutely super smooth and clean. It's really quite striking, really, just how different it looks.
Still, when analyzing the visual output of a game one must place all platforms on a level playing field. Analyzing output from a system on a monitor against PC output is the only way to understand how they compare.
That said, in the case of BFH, the shimmering and sub-pixel artifacts visible on thin objects are bad to the point that you'd have to stand a good 20 feet away not to be bothered by them. :\
Spottiettiedop
Member
Day 1 for me. I've enjoyed it the last couple of days.
It's like EA isn't putting much into the game but stuck the Battlefield name on the box hoping to maximize their return. Sony and MS impove their system and tools EA does a copy and paste job and expects success. And the simple fact that this was supposed to have come out 1.5 year ago confirms a copy and paste job for me from BF4 and if there wasn't such a backlash over all the shitty games that released unfinished last year this game would've been pushed out the door by EA suckering everyone who bought it. EA is gonna EA I guess I'm not giving them any money for a long long time.
Asking 60 euro's for this is just hilarious.
Lay a lot of things at this games feet. Boring shouldn't be one of them. There are some things it does well. It's a competent multiplayer shooter.
It can be boring conceptually, especially coming hot off of the heels of Battlefield 4.
CarbonFire
Member
This seems like just a throwaway side project while their Amy Hennig team ramp up to full production on the real Visceral game. I doubt they devoted that many resources to it (and it shows).
Hot off the heels....? Sorry when was Battlefield 4 released again?
Dictator93
Member
It is in the DF comparison.
The geometry is being supersampled as well as the entire image being super sampled (125% res scaling).
qa_engineer
Member
It angers me that this game is going to sell well over a million copies.
Sure.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
this has to be a joke post i can't take it
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Mechanics own Heists.
Spawn Beacon + Zipline = GG
Spawn Beacon + Zipline = GG
Broadbandito
Member
I'm buying this game for HEIST pretty much. Great objective game type
That looks so fucking promising. I hope they didn't lie when they showed that demo.
I suppose it would be seen like that if you didn't partake in the DLC.
No even when having premium and partaking in the dlc it is still a year and a half between releases.
That is not hot off the heels
so you skipped all of last gen on the consoles?? really??...
as for framerate, non-native makes no difference at all as long as the framerate is capped, and solid...a 30fps game will look identical on any modern TV regardless of refresh rate...60, 120, 240, whatever...
oh dont get me wrong...this game is ugly and im not defending its visuals...im just saying there is a lot of hypocricy here...
if the game was 1080/30 the same people would be screaming that its not 60fps...so they make the game 900/60 and they are screaming its not 1080p...
Basically my views in a nutshell. One of the few titles I can recall actually rooting against.
shadowsdarknes
Member
I'm too much of a vehicle whore in bf4 to want hard line.
Maybe it is down to me not sitting super close to my tv then. It may also be because most games look a lot better in motion than in screenshots.
Leafhopper
Banned
You are being kind. This is a 60 dollar/60Euro mod.
Good luck. As "Freedom = $1.05" had said earlier, it's going to become harder & harder for most games to be in Native 1080p later on, let alone having games in both Native 1080p w/60 FPS.
Maybe with PS5 & Xbox 4, we'll see most games in Native 1080p w/60FPS, LOL.
Samurai G0SU
Member
Wait! He can't be serious, right! :-/
Really now?
I personally am really looking forward to Hardline. This and the Handsome Collection are my day 1 purchases for the next few months.
Expecting a semi-sequel that is built on a year old engine to not have any improvements on it's predecessor warrants a reply like that?
Some people are really trying way to hard to try and paint EA in a positive picture. lol
Same goes for this one:
I guess people who have some kind of standard are in the minority these days.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Please don't talk like that about our woofus.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
1080p/60fps is the best possible scenario but I've always said I'm happy with 1080p/30fps or 900p/60fps. I see nothing wrong with what we have here ... apart from the fact I hate the franchise.
Care to expand on this? What's wrong with cops vs robbers?
