AnotherOne
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Thanks autocorrect for spelling Phoenix
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[DF] Immortals Phoenix Rising PS5/Xbox Series S/X vs Switch
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Thanks autocorrect for spelling Phoenix
Mistershine.
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Thanks autoncorect for spelling Phoenix
And yet it failed you this time...
GametimeUK
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Another one!
MDSLKTR
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Ya nice edit
Megatron
Member
Hasn’t Xbox been winning these most recently?
Tickle My Tendies
Member
From DF:
Thanks to Tom Morgan and D dark10x for the content
Summary:
- Both XsX and PS5 run in dynamic 4k on Performance Mode
- Lowest pixel count was around 1440p, highest was native 4k (rare cases), runs mostly around 1620p on both PS5 and XsX
- 60 fps locked on both PS5 and XsX
- They observed screen tearing in a specific scenario (instances when dynamic resolution changes quickly and drastically like when looking at sky then looking straight down) on both Series X and PS5. Same on both. Rare in typical gameplay.
- Very well optimized on all NG consoles
- Quality Mode aims for 4k but locks at 30 fps, maintains 4k well on both XsX and PS5. Locked 4k as far as Tom can tell but says there could possible be small dips
- 30 FPS lock on both XsX and PS5, no drops
- Series S - Dynamic 1080p, lowest pixel count was 720p in Performance mode. Can go as high as 1440p in Quality mode
Loading Times:
- PS5: 12:10
- Series X - 12:39
- Series S - 13:04
- Switch - 44:09
Switch Version
- Drastically scaled back geometry, foliage density, texture detail (especially at distance)
- Basically everything in the distance is scaled down
- SSR gone, shadow quality lowered
- Dynamic 720p while docked
- Framerate dips below 30 and resolution doesn't seem to drop as aggressively as you would expect to compensate
- Peaks at 504p in portable mode
- Framerate typically below 30
- 20-30 FPS range in any given situation
- Frame pacing issues as well
Bring on the Switch Pro. The sooner, the better.
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For those wondering how XsX and PS5 stack up to PC:
Thanks to Tom Morgan and D dark10x for the content
Summary:
- Both XsX and PS5 run in dynamic 4k on Performance Mode
- Lowest pixel count was around 1440p, highest was native 4k (rare cases), runs mostly around 1620p on both PS5 and XsX
- 60 fps locked on both PS5 and XsX
- They observed screen tearing in a specific scenario (instances when dynamic resolution changes quickly and drastically like when looking at sky then looking straight down) on both Series X and PS5. Same on both. Rare in typical gameplay.
- Very well optimized on all NG consoles
- Quality Mode aims for 4k but locks at 30 fps, maintains 4k well on both XsX and PS5. Locked 4k as far as Tom can tell but says there could possible be small dips
- 30 FPS lock on both XsX and PS5, no drops
- Series S - Dynamic 1080p, lowest pixel count was 720p in Performance mode. Can go as high as 1440p in Quality mode
Loading Times:
- PS5: 12:10
- Series X - 12:39
- Series S - 13:04
- Switch - 44:09
Switch Version
- Drastically scaled back geometry, foliage density, texture detail (especially at distance)
- Basically everything in the distance is scaled down
- SSR gone, shadow quality lowered
- Dynamic 720p while docked
- Framerate dips below 30 and resolution doesn't seem to drop as aggressively as you would expect to compensate
- Peaks at 504p in portable mode
- Framerate typically below 30
- 20-30 FPS range in any given situation
- Frame pacing issues as well
Bring on the Switch Pro. The sooner, the better.
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For those wondering how XsX and PS5 stack up to PC:
here are 1440p/Very High GPU benchmarks with an i9 CPU
a 2080 averages 70 FPS at 1440p/Very High. PS5 and XsX average 1620p (can go lower, can go higher) at locked 60fps. Pretty nice
a 2080 averages 70 FPS at 1440p/Very High. PS5 and XsX average 1620p (can go lower, can go higher) at locked 60fps. Pretty nice
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Outrunner
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Ubi released a patch
Mr Moose
Member
Interesting that their lowest count is now higher for both consoles. Lowest before was 1080p for Series X and 1280p for PS5. Though those counts were from VGTech not DF, he's very accurate.
Trogdor1123
Member
Great game for anyone interested, definitely recommend it
Insane Metal
Member
You know, it's interesting to see XBox loading times being pretty much the same as PS5's. We've been seeing that constantly accross all multiplat games. Either them being on par or with such a small difference not worth even mentioning. Nice for the X.
SplunkyMunkey
Member
Ps5 is pretty impressive expecially when everyone is chanting that ps5 is weaker because it has not got unified caches or theres some features removed from the cpu. But its intriguing how ps5 is made to just 2 b as strong or keeping up with the series x or in some cases be more stronger then series x
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Tickle My Tendies
Member
yeah, they mention that this is the latest version of the game, and things have changed since launch
interesting
I like the game a lot, and it can commonly be found for around 40 bucks or less. I am gonna Plat it on PS5 this week
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Bittermich
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well, these are still crossgen games. It will get interesting when we will have true nextgen games using nextgen engines.
SplunkyMunkey
Member
Bf6 will be an interesting one me thinks bigger maps bigger player count if its 128 players and destruction that will test the gpu ssd geometry ect etcwell, these are still crossgen games. It will get interesting when we will have true nextgen games using nextgen engines.
Mr Moose
Member
Days Gone/Gears 6 will look amazing on Unreal 5.well, these are still crossgen games. It will get interesting when we will have true nextgen games using nextgen engines.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
I have been excited for a Days Gone sequel ever since beating the game. Can't wait to see what they do with the horde density on NG hardware. Gonna look insane.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
I was playing quality mode on SX because it looked much better than performance. Have to check it out again.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Loading is exactly what they should be related to the storage speeds of the machines. They will be further apart in games that take longer to load. The question is how many games will have long load times this gen to really see the difference?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Holy shit. That pic of Switch's game in the lake looks like a PS2 game. Zero detail in the background.
Valt7786
Member
I love my switch for its portability and that, but other than that it really is a garbage piece of gaming tech, compared to everything else out there. I'm sure there's phones that can do better than the switch now.
I mean, 720p DOCKED? 720 in handheld would be fine, but in "home console" mode? That should be unnacceptable nowadays.
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Sealord of Braavos
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Pretty cool to see that Series X has been improved from it’s early state where it was agreed upon that the PS5 version performed better. Devs seem to be getting a better feel for the Series X now. Hitman 3 certainly was another indicator of this possibility. Very good vibes around Xbox and it’s still so early in this gen.
Self
Member
The whole game looks like a PS2 game to me... on all plattforms.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
That is the Nintendo way. Great for:
- first party games
- portability (Switch or their numerous handhelds)
- hardware always seems $100-200 cheaper than PS or Xbox
Not great for:
- everything else such as high budget games, visuals, online, third party game selection. The core audience is so limited it's game appeal, EA doesn't even spam their million EA Sports on Nintendo systems. All they do is I think FIFA and thats it. And it's always a last gen game engine version of FIFA.
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FrankWza
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720p series s is good vibes?
bender
What time is it?
Tickle My Tendies
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Mr Moose
Member
Please tell me it looks dog shit because of YouTube compression/printscreen?Witcher 3 looks absolutely abysmal as well on the switch.
Mortal Kombat too.
Damn.
It was always pretty obvious that the jump between last gen hard drives and any SSD was going to be bigger than the difference between PS5 and Xbox Series X.
There's probably some wiggle room for both, since neither is taking full advantage of their respective IO solutions yet, but it's never going to be so bad as to be a specific selling point for either.
Why do you guys still not get that the Series S is for people who don't give a shit about graphics?
If I have a $200 TV that barely reaches 1080p, I'm not going to give a crap if the Series S occasionally drops to 720p. And if I did care, there's always quality mode.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yes, I could tell you that it is because of youtube compression.
But I would be lying.
Here is a direct comparison with other console versions. You really see how much detail you lose just to get it to run on a weaker console.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
PC rig = Ultra HighWitcher 3 looks absolutely abysmal as well on the switch.
Mortal Kombat too.
PS5/Xbox Series = High
Old PC/last gen PS and Xbox = Medium
Dreamcast = Low
Switch = Ultra Low
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Hmm they should bundle glasses with switch, because this is how I see without them. Damn why do people keep buying this, are they are not concerned how much money they are shelling out for something which is like Xbox 0.5?Witcher 3 looks absolutely abysmal as well on the switch.
Mortal Kombat too.
OK.
Leyasu
Banned
Yeah I had a patch not so long ago for this. II need to get back and finish it.
If you only have a Switch or have the requirement to be able to play on the go, then hey all things considered the Switch port is pretty decent. But yeah, it's about time that we get a Switch Pro, just for sake of hitting 1080p. On the other hand the next-gen ports disappointingly only improve IQ and with some more effects here and there, but don't do anything ground breaking :-/
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Leyasu
Banned
When was the last time that you went into a thread and not proceeded to console war?
Damn son. All that effort, and Sony aren't even paying you for it.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
I am curious to see if anything changes when we get NG only multi-platform games
I am playing on my PS5, in Performance Mode, and I think it looks pretty good. Great draw distance
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Things will only get faster. Honestly, all the talk about transfer speeds only really applies if you're looking at 24gb Word documents. The ideal circumstances are ridiculously rare, and don't factor in every single other process that these consoles have to do.
PS5 will probably end up with the fastest loading game of the generation, but it'll be by milliseconds, maybe seconds and certainly not half of what's happening on Xbox.
Sealord of Braavos
Member
Certain folks around here are a bit rattled. Fairly easy to spot them.
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Leyasu
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VG tech : Immortals Fenix Rising PS5 vs XSX
Seems they are same but ps5 has generally/more often higher dynamic resolutions in performance mode . In quality mode ps5 is locked 4k where as xsx is still dynamic and can go down to 1870p in some scenes . Quick summary: Performance mode : PS5 in dynamic 4K (2275x1280p ~ 3840x2160p) XSX in...
Another 12 pages incoming or not?
Strider Highwind
Banned
Witcher 3 looks absolutely abysmal as well on the switch.
Mortal Kombat too.
I cleaned my glasses and looked at these pics again and realized I wasted some of my lens cleaner for no reason lol
Tickle My Tendies
Member
VG tech : Immortals Fenix Rising PS5 vs XSX
Seems they are same but ps5 has generally/more often higher dynamic resolutions in performance mode . In quality mode ps5 is locked 4k where as xsx is still dynamic and can go down to 1870p in some scenes . Quick summary: Performance mode : PS5 in dynamic 4K (2275x1280p ~ 3840x2160p) XSX in...www.neogaf.com
Another 12 pages incoming or not?
VG Tech is usually open to going back and re-testing games after updates/patches, wonder if he will give this game another look
FrankWza
Member
Example? Because as far as I can tell there’s plenty of comments about the switch being 720p and that not a new gen console. Did you call out those posts for “war” comments?
DJ12
Member
I hope so, as Tom Morgan has FIFA 21 pegged as 4K on series S.
If he's responsible for the pixel count, you can hazard a guess it's wrong.