Leyasu
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I watched their first vid, but I didn't watch this one. The description is enough.
It is good to see that Ubi went back and finished the game though. I'll probably do the same soon.
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[DF] Immortals Phoenix Rising PS5/Xbox Series S/X vs Switch
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It is good to see that Ubi went back and finished the game though. I'll probably do the same soon.
FrankWza
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$300 console on a $200 TV. That's the target customer?
Tickle My Tendies
Member
The Series S version can drop to 720p at 60 FPS running much better visual settings than Switch. It's basically a different version of the game.
FrankWza
Member
And? Was it called out? Yes. By your rationale, the series s is a different version too. My comment stands. The s coming in at 720p is not good vibes for Xbox like sealord claimed because it came out the same day the series x did and was supposed to perform better than it has. Switch is what, 3-4 years old?
Leyasu
Banned
You're in every thread console warring. Most of the time you don't even need an excuse to start either. There is no point in trying the "it's not just me miss" either. Your reputation precedes you now unfortunately.
You have just made me realise that I never even look at switch related posts in these threads.. I just skim over them and my kids have a switch too. I didn't even read what the switch was putting out on this game
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FrankWza
Member
Right. So you made a premature assumption about me. And by doing that you glossed over the switch comments and went straight to mine. Now go back and make comments about the switch comments. As far as the warring I can make the same comment about you. Where's my console war comments? I'm not spreading anything inaccurate and if I make a mistake I fix it. The series s is part of Xbox and the guy said good vibes which is impossible because once again it's output is sub-promise and substandard.
...Yes?
They're for children. They're for adults who either don't care about graphics or only buy a few games a gen. They're for people who don't have the tech needed for PS5 and Xbox Series X.
I know people who have £100 TVs in their living room, but are driving £15,000 cars.
Who did you think the Series S was aimed at? Because going by your first comment, the only possible answer is "Hardcore gamers who didn't know what they were getting."
Leyasu
Banned
My assumption about you is not premature, every time I see your avatar, your in the trenches battling it out lol.
I never said you were spreading fud or anything else. You can call me a console warrior to if you like. Feel free to go through my post history too. Like yours, mine is available.
Anyway, it is not worth getting angry about.
Also, it should be noted that for roughly the same price, the XsS hands in a performance well above the switch. Not just this game either.
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Tickle My Tendies
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On Series S you can choose between 1080p-1440p/30FPS or 720p-1080p/60fps with load times that rival the PS5
This is, more or less, what they promised the Series S to be.
I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you really sound like a troll right now.
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Night.Ninja
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
100% true.
This goes for just about everything you can buy at the store too.
The most expensive best gadget is rarely the best selling. Ok, maybe Apple gadgets skew high to sales and price, but for most things in life, most people make do buying a middle of the road product at middle of the road prices.
For many types of products, the cheapest one is the best selling (cheap store brand label).
sunnysideup
Banned
the art style in this game is atrocious. I hate this modern blizzard look.
Tickle My Tendies
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Fbh
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Seems pretty decent on both. The big draw distance sure is nice too.
Swithc seems pretty bad but that's to be expected. I doubt many people got a Switch to play graphically demanding multipatform games anyway.
I actually like the look aside from the ugly/weird human characters
Swithc seems pretty bad but that's to be expected. I doubt many people got a Switch to play graphically demanding multipatform games anyway.
I actually like the look aside from the ugly/weird human characters
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Of course and sorry the RDNA 1.1 PS5 is holding back the superior full 256-bit full RDNA 2 XSX.
MasterCornholio
Member
Actually the PS5 had some issues as well with quality mode.
itsjustJEFF
Member
How was the mission structure and story? We're there a lot of tedious missions?
FrankWza
Member
Instead of quoting my response to you, you took another piece of what I said to someone else and quoted out of context. "More or less" wasn't promised. It's a next gen console. The fact that it shares any characteristics with the switch is pretty bad. And again, my comment was called out but there are plenty of comments about the switch being sub par when, based on what you're saying here, we should expect that from a 3-4 year old console. We should not expect it from a next gen console, especially in a cross gen game. You try being down the middle, but you're not. I don't care what console you own and prefer. You have an issue with me from when I told you to go fuck your self when you accused me of reporting your precious thread title.(which I did not) Get over it.
R6Rider
Gold Member
Most of the missions are doing puzzles or fighting enemies in various ways. The puzzles can be a large variety of things, but are mostly based around moving objects. I'm only 15 hours in, but so far the balance of puzzles, exploration, and combat is great. If you hate doing puzzles like that, I would probably avoid or try to rent it first.
The story is pretty basic. You have to free the various gods around the regions of the map and become strong enough to defeat Typhon.
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Tickle My Tendies
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FrankWza
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Hey man...Just sayin it how it is. We're all adults. I'll move along.
Trogdor1123
Member
I found the story pretty fun, some of the jokes fall flat but it's ok if you don't take it seriously.
Lots of mission variety.
Armorian
Banned
Many of cross gen games don't even use anything other than cpus for loading it seems, i mean those 12 seconds are way too much even for XSS with HW decompression. Lazy ports all aroound.
Physiognomonics
Member
Actually the most notable improvement is on PS5 as the game was constantly stuttering at launch. Some kind of bug.
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Tickle My Tendies
Member
Godfall had the same issue and it was fixed after a couple patches. I have been grinding Ascension Levels after the new update and it runs very smooth on PS5 now (gotta turn motion blur off in 60 fps mode though).
Seems like there have been cases of stutters that got patched out in multiple games on both XsX and PS5. Makes me wonder if it is jus chalked up to shoddy optimizations out the gates/devs getting accustomed to the new hardware
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
It's not sub promised. That's a lie.
FrankWza
Member
Taken from Xbox site
What's the difference between Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S?
Both consoles deliver next-generation capabilities powered by the Xbox Velocity Architecture, such as faster loading, the ability to seamlessly switch between multiple games with Quick Resume, richer and more dynamic worlds, and frame rates up to 120fps.
The primary difference between the two consoles is that the Xbox Series X displays games at native 4K, comes equipped with a UHD Blu-ray Disc player, and 1TB of custom SSD storage. *****Xbox Series S is designed for disc-free gaming at 1440p *****(with the ability to upscale to 4K), with a custom 512GB SSD. And, of course, they're priced differently.
It's delivered 720p and less on more than one occasion.
And from windows central:
That isn't saying the Xbox Series S is a slouch. While you won't get true 4K gaming or the crispest textures, the Xbox Series S can still play next-gen games with a targeted 1440p resolution (making the Series S awesome at 1080p) at up to a buttery smooth 120FPS, the same as the Xbox Series X. Not only that, but hooking up the Xbox Series S to a 4K TV doesn't mean your TV is wasting its potential. The Xbox Series S can still handle 4K movies through streaming platforms like Netflix or Microsoft Movies & TV, and it's able to upscale games to 4K.
And, in rare cases, some games may push for 4K on the Xbox Series S.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
You know as well as any gamer, promoted specs are the max out specs. Games might run at the max, but can also fall below.
That's like Sony promoting PS3 as a 1080p machine, yet how many games actually ran at 1080p? Maybe 10 out of 1,000s of games? PS4 Pro has "4k" plastered right on the home page when Sony was plugging it. How many games run at native 4k?
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FrankWza
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So how many levels below is ok? It's touted as a 1440p machine that can hit 4K in rare cases. So, 1080p consistently should be no problem. So what with the 720p?
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Riky
$MSFT
When the Series S is doing lower resolutions it's also when the Series X isn't doing 4K, it's pretty simple to understand.
FrankWza
Member
But it's not 1:1 though. I get the range, But the x isn't struggling with this game. The s is coming in as low as 720p on immortals fenyx rising. If locked 1080p @60 is not possible on this game then It's not delivering. Come on now. Is it really such a demanding game?
Riky
$MSFT
The Series X and the PS5 aren't doing 4k in the same mode, nowhere near in fact.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
It's an open world game with next-gen draw distance. Yes, it is demanding.
A 2080 averages 70 FPS at 1440p. Lower resolution than the Performance Mode on XsX and PS5 typically outputs (1620p most often, according to DF).
Series S is doing just fine.
A 2080 averages 70 FPS at 1440p. Lower resolution than the Performance Mode on XsX and PS5 typically outputs (1620p most often, according to DF).
Series S is doing just fine.
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GHG
Member
Don't jump to conclusions.
These are cross-gen games and we need to wait for Sony to release the SSD tools.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Literally in the video
Series S - Dynamic 1080p, lowest pixel count was 720p in Performance mode. Can go as high as 1440p in Quality mode
So exactly what your asking for
Thanks for summary Wired.
FrankWza
Member
Isn't it dynamic 4K in performance mode? The s can't maintain 1080p and drops to 720p in the same mode. What are even talking about man? This is the same console you said was going to push the Ps5. Hahaha
So based on your scale, where should the s be?
Hahaha...not in the same mode. If the x is a 4K machine and it's doing dynamic in performance mode, the s, as a 1440 machine that can supposedly hit 4K should be doing more than sub 1080p for the same game in the same mode. I get they're not always going to hit the ceiling, but the floor on that series s is in the basement.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
PS5 has 8k on the box.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
How so? What logic dictates that? Are you a programmer? The X is, what, 3x more powerful than the S?
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
PS5 and XSX performing very favourably there against the 2080. Consoles probably running med-high settings.It's an open world game with next-gen draw distance. Yes, it is demanding.
A 2080 averages 70 FPS at 1440p. Lower resolution than the Performance Mode on XsX and PS5 typically outputs (1620p most often, according to DF).
Series S is doing just fine.
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TLZ
Banned
Thanks for the summary.From DF:
Thanks to Tom Morgan and @dark10x for the content
Summary:
- Both XsX and PS5 run in dynamic 4k on Performance Mode
- Lowest pixel count was around 1440p, highest was native 4k (rare cases), runs mostly around 1620p on both PS5 and XsX
- 60 fps locked on both PS5 and XsX
- They observed screen tearing in a specific scenario (instances when dynamic resolution changes quickly and drastically like when looking at sky then looking straight down) on both Series X and PS5. Same on both. Rare in typical gameplay.
- Very well optimized on all NG consoles
- Quality Mode aims for 4k but locks at 30 fps, maintains 4k well on both XsX and PS5. Locked 4k as far as Tom can tell but says there could possible be small dips
- 30 FPS lock on both XsX and PS5, no drops
- Series S - Dynamic 1080p, lowest pixel count was 720p in Performance mode. Can go as high as 1440p in Quality mode
Loading Times:
- PS5: 12:10
- Series X - 12:39
- Series S - 13:04
- Switch - 44:09
Switch Version
- Drastically scaled back geometry, foliage density, texture detail (especially at distance)
- Basically everything in the distance is scaled down
- SSR gone, shadow quality lowered
- Dynamic 720p while docked
- Framerate dips below 30 and resolution doesn't seem to drop as aggressively as you would expect to compensate
- Peaks at 504p in portable mode
- Framerate typically below 30
- 20-30 FPS range in any given situation
- Frame pacing issues as well
Bring on the Switch Pro. The sooner, the better.
This should be in OP.
Riky
$MSFT
Isn't it dynamic 4K in performance mode? The s can't maintain 1080p and drops to 720p in the same mode. What are even talking about man? This is the same console you said was going to push the Ps5. Hahaha
So based on your scale, where should the s be?
Hahaha...not in the same mode. If the x is a 4K machine and it's doing dynamic in performance mode, the s, as a 1440 machine that can supposedly hit 4K should be doing more than sub 1080p for the same game in the same mode. I get they're not always going to hit the ceiling, but the floor on that series s is in the basement.
It says they run about 1620p so no not 4k. In the actual 4k mode the Series S can get to 1440p.
You know Microsoft isn't responsible for third parties? Is it the PS5 at fault when the Division 2 hovers around 1080p on its next gen patch or is it Ubisoft?
Gears Tactics which is the only first party game released since launch runs at 4k on Series X and 1440p on Series S.
Effigenius
Member
It's not even the serially picky. It's straight up just the console warriors. And they don't notice it themselves they just pour over websites looking for this information.
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
Tom actually says it goes under 1440p in performance mode. The 2.25 math actually puts series s around where it should be. Maybe a bit low. Launch window issues and all that.