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[Orbital2060]

I claimed the horadric legacy set for my demon hunter, its my fave class from D3 so went with it.

Pretty nice bonus for signing up before launch.

 

[MadPanda]

It's literally pay 2 win crap:



You guys need some standards and self-respect instead of playing this obvious cash grab.

You are the one who needs some self-respect. I don't need anyone telling me neither on YouTube nor on neogaf what I like or don't like. I went blindly in diablo immortal and I'm amazed what they made. It's basically diablo 3 mobile and I like it a lot. I haven't paid a dime, was having a blast and can't wait to go back. If I end up playing it much more maybe I'll buy battle pass which is 5$. That's it. Why would I care what asmodean says? You should stop watching other people reactions and make your own judgment. Maybe you still won't like it, but it'll be your own thoughts and feeling not someone else's.

 

[strange headache]

Why do you have such interest in a game you hate so much? Why turn people away who might have fun like me?

I don't hate the game, I hate the predatory game mechanics, the pay 2 win, the lootboxes and the game trying to nickel and dime you at every opportunity.
Already it is obvious that gameplay will be artificially gimped at every opportunity to entice players to throw money at this greedy cash-grab.

Don't support these anti-consumer practices.

You are the one who needs some self-respect. I don't need anyone telling me neither on YouTube nor on neogaf what I like or don't like. I went blindly in diablo immortal and I'm amazed what they made. It's basically diablo 3 mobile and I like it a lot. I haven't paid a dime, was having a blast and can't wait to go back.

The lack of self-awareness is astounding. People are not telling you what to like, but making you aware of the shitty microtransactions in this game. Game came out not even a day ago, no wonder you haven't hit the paywall yet. But you're too ignorant to heed the warnings of the people who have been playing for far longer because you just want to play your shiny new plaything. THAT is lack of self-respect!

 

[Orbital2060]

Where do you buy the battle pass?

 

[whyman]

I don't hate the game, I hate the predatory game mechanics, the pay 2 win, the lootboxes and the game trying to nickel and dime you at every opportunity.
Already it is obvious that gameplay will be artificially gimped at every opportunity to entice players to throw money at this greedy cash-grab.

Don't support these anti-consumer practices.



The lack of self-awareness is astounding. People are not telling you what to like, but making you aware of the shitty microtransactions in this game. Game came out not even a day ago, no wonder you haven't hit the paywall yet. But you're too ignorant to heed the warnings of the people who have been playing for far longer because you just want to play your shiny new plaything. THAT is lack of self-respect!

Having fun and valuing time is to respect oneself. The second it stops being fun I stop playing. Gaming is not an investment it’s temporary entertainment.

 

[MadPanda]

I don't hate the game, I hate the predatory game mechanics, the pay 2 win, the lootboxes and the game trying to nickel and dime you at every opportunity.
Already it is obvious that gameplay will be artificially gimped at every opportunity to entice players to throw money at this greedy cash-grab.

Don't support these anti-consumer practices.



The lack of self-awareness is astounding. People are not telling you what to like, but making you aware of the shitty microtransactions in this game. Game came out not even a day ago, no wonder you haven't hit the paywall yet. But you're too ignorant to heed the warnings of the people who have been playing for far longer because you just want to play your shiny new plaything. THAT is lack of self-respect!

I enjoy the game. When I stop enjoying it I'll stop playing it. That's self-respect. I don't need others to tell me when I enjoy or not enjoy something. Stop acting like a parent to their children.

 

[DavidGzz]

sooner rather than later you will be forced to cough up money to continue in the game.

And if we find it fun and worth it to do so, what's the problem? PoE pushed me to buy stash space because of the amount of loot and crafting items and I played it for about 200 hours and I spent about $60 bucks on it. I was fine with that. If Immortal causes us to spend some money eventually because it's fun and addictive, why do the devs not deserve the money? It's f2p and if people spend enough money to keep the servers alive, it's a good model.

Are you going to keep entering threads of F2P games just to attempt to persuade people not to play them as if we can't decide for ourselves?

 

[strange headache]

Having fun and valuing time is to respect oneself. The second it stops being fun I stop playing. Gaming is not an investment it’s temporary entertainment.

Imagine being this desperate to play a game that you need to find excuses for shitty ingame payments.
You've basically just admitted that you need to be on the constant lookout for crappy game mechanics that are trying to fleece your wallet.

That is not respecting-oneself when being on the permanent defense becomes a necessary prerequisite in order to play a game.

It's f2p and if people spend enough money to keep the servers alive, it's a good model. Are you going to keep entering threads of F2P games just to attempt to persuade people not to play them as if we can't decide for ourselves?

This is what happens when you put most of your brains into your arms. You become a braindead consumer shill who doesn't care that he is being fleeced.

 

[Orbital2060]

Imagine being this desperate to play a game that you need to find excuses for shitty ingame payments.
You've basically just admitted that you need to be on the constant lookout for crappy game mechanics that are trying to fleece your wallet.

That is not respecting-oneself when being on the permanent defense becomes a necessary prerequisite in order to play a game.

Do you have a specific idea of how the mtx work? Has anyone actually met a wall where they needed to pay for more content?

Because all I can see are materials for crafting weapons and gear, and nothing about content.

 

[Fuz]

Don't support these anti-consumer practices.

Do it, and you'll see fewer and fewer games that respect your time and wallet.

 

[GenericUser]

I just played like 1.5 hours and it's alright so far. The only thing that I really didn't like is that you can't dash like in the console versions of D3. That was pretty cool as you could dodge enemy attacks pretty easily. I guess it's to hard to implement with phone controls. Other then that, it's one of the better AAA experiences on mobile (that's not saying much though). Certainly enough to keep me busy when there is a slow day at work.

 

[strange headache]

Do you have a specific idea of how the mtx work? Has anyone actually met a wall where they needed to pay for more content?

Because all I can see are materials for crafting weapons and gear, and nothing about content.

I've literally posted the relevant videos about how endgame rift mechanics force you to heavily invest in shop items.

Legendary Gems can only be found in Elder Rifts and only if you have Legendary Crests or Rare Crests which you can use to "empower" the rift. You can buy unlimited Legendary Crests in the shop with Orbs (Currency That Must Be Paid For) for a 100% chance for a Legendary Gem to drop. There are virtually no sources for earning Legendary Crests for free.

They turned legendary gems into an outright gacha system.

Diablo Immortal isn't quite pay-to-win, but it's close

The nature of Diablo Immortal's microtransactions isn't immediately apparent, but the red flags are big with this one.

www.pcgamer.com

The best gems, which are broken into star-ratings like Genshin characters, are largely available from rifts. They're sprinkled in both the free and paid battle passes and you can get some via NPCs and the game's real money auction house (yeah, it's back), but if you need several to slot into your high level gear, you'll either need to grind rifts with extremely low drop rates or lay down some cash for Crests.

Even loot drop chances are skewed to make you pay:

Those concepts are still intact in the new game, but the rate at which you normally receive upgrades and upgrade materials could be skewed toward getting you to pay up. Reports from players on the subreddit and on YouTube suggest that was definitely the case in the beta.

More info:

Diablo Immortal devs downplay ‘pay-to-win’ monetization fears - Dexerto

Diablo Immortal devs downplayed fears the game will be 'pay-to-win,' claiming it was possible to thrive in the beta without spending a dime.

www.dexerto.com

How much does Diablo Immortal cost? In-game shop, Battle Pass & Pay2Win allegations explained (UPDATE)

What is really Free2Play and where does it get expensive? We shed light on the payment model and the Pay2Win allegations for Diablo Immortal

www.global-esports.news

 

[whyman]

Imagine being this desperate to play a game that you need to find excuses for shitty ingame payments.
You've basically just admitted that you need to be on the constant lookout for crappy game mechanics that are trying to fleece your wallet.

That is not respecting-oneself when being on the permanent defense becomes a necessary prerequisite in order to play a game.



This is what happens when you put most of your brains into your arms. You become a braindead consumer shill who doesn't care that he is being fleeced.

You make zero sense. The game is not fleecing me at all. It’s offering a base experience for totally free. And that experience is the best I’ve had in any mobile game. I’m a strong believer in the ability of people to take their own decisions and paying for bonus stats and cosmetic is a decision not a requirement.

 

[DavidGzz]

Lol at this dude crusading in here.

 

[strange headache]

You make zero sense. The game is not fleecing me at all. It’s offering a base experience for totally free. And that experience is the best I’ve had in any mobile game. I’m a strong believer in the ability of people to take their own decisions and paying for bonus stats and cosmetic is a decision not a requirement.

Dude, you have played for a couple of hours at most. They will not fleece you right away, but have you invest a certain amount of time first before they can hook you and reel you in.

 

[MMaRsu]

Lmao cant even download it, not available.in my region

 

[MMaRsu]

Dude, you have played for a couple of hours at most. They will not fleece you right away, but have you invest a certain amount of time first before they can hook you and reel you in.

Fine, we get it. Its a p2win game. Let people play it if they want to.

 

[strange headache]

Fine, we get it. Its a p2win game. Let people play it if they want to.

They can play whatever they want, just like I can post and write about this game whatever I want.

 

[MMaRsu]

They can play whatever they want, just like I can post and write about this game whatever I want.

You can, except noone is listening or caring about what you have to say.

 

[strange headache]

You can, except noone is listening or caring about what you have to say.

Judging by the reactions, they seem to care plenty.

 

[MMaRsu]

I think tue reactions were more along the line of, we dont care, we are just gonna play it and not spend money.

 

[strange headache]

I think tue reactions were more along the line of, we dont care, we are just gonna play it and not spend money.

Of course there will always plenty of dumb and blind consumers who are just looking for the next fix, but many others do care.
In fact they care so much about it, that there has been legislation about it.

 

[DavidGzz]

Judging by the reactions, they seem to care plenty.

Nah, we're just laughing you off. You care so much you come with the personal insults. Sad.

 

[strange headache]

Nah, we're just laughing you off. You care so much you come with the personal insults. Sad.

The reason why you are all acting so defensive is because you know how bad the microtransactions are.
You are the reason why games have gotten to the point that they are now applying gambling and casino strategies in order to prey on their customers. That's why you don't want to hear about it.

 

[MMaRsu]

Of course there will always plenty of dumb and blind consumers who are just looking for the next fix, but many others do care.
In fact they care so much about it, that there has been legislation about it.

So just bc they want to play a free game they are dumb and blind? Just leave the thread bro noone is interested in having you talk down to them

 

[MMaRsu]

The reason why you are all acting so defensive is because you know how bad the microtransactions are.
You are the reason why games have gotten to the point that they are now applying gambling and casino strategies in order to prey on their customers. That's why you don't want to hear about it.

A bit too late to start the crusade bro. Should have been here when horse armor started.

 

[strange headache]

So just bc they want to play a free game they are dumb and blind? Just leave the thread bro noone is interested in having you talk down to them

When will you dolts finally realize that NO game is really 'free'.
Just play something that respects you as a customer, it's really not that difficult or at least be honest with yourselves and acknowledge the shitty microtransactions.

 

[MMaRsu]

When will you dolts finally realize that NO game is really 'free'.
Just play something that respects you as a customer, it's really not that difficult or at least be honest with yourselves and acknowledge the shitty microtransactions.

Ill play whatever I want bro. Wether its one of the 1100 games Ive paid for, or some free shit I wanna try, or some game I downloaded a 'demo' for.
Get off your high horse

 

[geary]

When will you dolts finally realize that NO game is really 'free'.
Just play something that respects you as a customer, it's really not that difficult or at least be honest with yourselves and acknowledge the shitty microtransactions.

Dude, it's a mobile game that we play when transit to the other side of town or waiting for an appointment... We're not pouring our life in this game...You act like we're spending the rent money on this...

 

[whyman]

Dude, you have played for a couple of hours at most. They will not fleece you right away, but have you invest a certain amount of time first before they can hook you and reel you in.

I have seen all those microtransactions plus Battle Pass etc in my game. I have self control and keep playing and having fun.

 

[strange headache]

Dude, it's a mobile game that we play when transit to the other side of town or waiting for an appointment... We're not pouring our life in this game...You act like we're spending the rent money on this...

Evidently plenty of people do otherwise these shitty mobile games wouldn't make millions.

Ill play whatever I want bro. Wether its one of the 1100 games Ive paid for, or some free shit I wanna try, or some game I downloaded a 'demo' for.
Get off your high horse

Have we already gotten to a point where being fleeced by microtransactions has become such a normality that we don't care anymore? Sad.

 

[MMaRsu]

Plenty of folks have already stated that they arent spending anything on microtransactions.

And yes, at this point in time its normalized. The fight was 10 years ago bro, ur a bit too late.

 

[Interfectum]

When will you dolts finally realize that NO game is really 'free'.
Just play something that respects you as a customer, it's really not that difficult or at least be honest with yourselves and acknowledge the shitty microtransactions.

This game lives rent free in your head. Why don’t you just play it since you seem so obsessed with it?

 

[Belthazar]

Just put him on ignore and move on with the thread. This person is clearly thriving on the attention this hate crusade gave him.

He completely derailed the thread and you guys are enabling him to do so. There's already a couple of pages with absolutely no relevant discussion around the game due to the back-and-forth.

If most of the people interested in the game just put him on ignore he'll get no responses and will give up... And even if he doesn't you just won't see it anyway. There's nothing to be gained from trying to rebuke him.

 

[strange headache]

This game lives rent free in your head. Why don’t you just play it since you seem so obsessed with it?

The hell does that even mean? Criticizing bad monetization practices of a game on a frikkin' video game forum where people talk about games now equals being obsessed?
You are just annoyed that people are putting the finger in the wound and pointing out your bad consumer habits.

Do you also eat at shitty restaurants and get annoyed by people calling it out? You all know that the monetization in this game sucks, you're just too embarrassed to admit it. That's why you keep shooting the messenger.

 

[Murdoch]

Sunk a couple of hours into this so far. This is a horrendously competent mobile game. Far better than I envisioned back when the game was announced.

 

[Topher]

Sunk a couple of hours into this so far. This is a horrendously competent mobile game. Far better than I envisioned back when the game was announced.

Horrendously competent?

 

[MadPanda]

Can we just ignore him and move on?

It was interesting fighting Leoric in a party with random people. I'm playing with barbarian. I'll probably try sorcerer too.

 

[RoboFu]

This game is so good that everyone should reward the developers by buying content and gifting content. I’m going to start by gifting strange headache Diablo immortal gift cards!

 

[Renoir]

The game is fun. If you played Diablo 3 and liked it, you will enjoy this game.
The game made me feel like a old man in the sense that I became aware of the technological marvel that phones have become. I needed a switch to play this game a couple years back.
Now on a Pixel 4xl Im playing an MMO of sort and its fun.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Dude, you have played for a couple of hours at most. They will not fleece you right away, but have you invest a certain amount of time first before they can hook you and reel you in.

Wow. So based on those screenshots a simple skin for the character is $25. WTF!

 

[ManaByte]

Where do you buy the battle pass?

You have to finish the cemetery quest first.

 

[midasmulligan]

I don't hate the game, I hate the predatory game mechanics, the pay 2 win, the lootboxes and the game trying to nickel and dime you at every opportunity.
Already it is obvious that gameplay will be artificially gimped at every opportunity to entice players to throw money at this greedy cash-grab.

Don't support these anti-consumer practices.



The lack of self-awareness is astounding. People are not telling you what to like, but making you aware of the shitty microtransactions in this game. Game came out not even a day ago, no wonder you haven't hit the paywall yet. But you're too ignorant to heed the warnings of the people who have been playing for far longer because you just want to play your shiny new plaything. THAT is lack of self-respect!

You should do a bit of introspection and ask yourself why you are repeatedly returning to this thread to rain on people's parade. There are several of those in this thread that have expressed their like for this game, and they don't need you moderating their fun or throwing your hot takes around in a thread you clearly have no interest. You haven't played the game, and you clearly have no interest in doing so, so carry on and find a thread where you feel warm and fuzzy. Because at this stage, you are coming off as an ass and we really don't need that sort of personality here...or anywhere for that matter.

 

[Orbital2060]

You have to finish the cemetery quest first.

Ok thanks

Ive just about reached Ashwold

 

[ManaByte]

You should do a bit of introspection and ask yourself why you are repeatedly returning to this thread to rain on people's parade. There are several of those in this thread that have expressed their like for this game, and they don't need you moderating their fun or throwing your hot takes around in a thread you clearly have no interest. You haven't played the game, and you clearly have no interest in doing so, so carry on and find a thread where you feel warm and fuzzy. Because at this stage, you are coming off as an ass and we really don't need that sort of personality here...or anywhere for that matter.

He does the same thing with woke whining in any TV or movie thread in the OT.

 

[PuppetMaster]

Uh I got logged out now it looks like my character is gone. Where did it go!!

 

[prinz_valium]

I claimed the horadric legacy set for my demon hunter, its my fave class from D3 so went with it.

Pretty nice bonus for signing up before launch.

Why did you get that from?

 

[Lupin3]

Uh I got logged out now it looks like my character is gone. Where did it go!!

Don't worry! You'll soon be able to buy it back for $0.99 (+650% extra value).

OnT: Does anyone know what the minimum Android specs are in order to push 60 fps in this game? My "old" Pixel 3a is doing nothing but 30 fps on low.

 

[nikos]

So hyped for this PC release. Played for about seven hours yesterday and woke up wanting to play more. The game has already provided more entertainment than most full priced games I buy.

 

[Elder Legend]

I don't get why people hate MTX so much. I've played WoW since 2004 and I've bought every store mount cause I love collecting. Most of the mounts are all earned in game either by farming, rng drops, or achievements. Each mount is $25 and I have 0 complaints cause I bought then months and months apart. So yes, I've spent a total over $400 over SEVERAL YEARS. OH MY I AM SUCH WHALE. NOT.

If you don't like MTX for cosmetics please kindly fuck off. I buy fortnite skins too. Why do I do it? Cause the game provided me either tons and tons of hours of game time for FREE. So I support the devs. If you don't think does deserve some love after they provided with a ton of valued game time then you have issues imo.

Anyways, what did you all roll? I am enjoying my Barbarian and Crusader the most. Tried demon hunter but melee seems to feel better on the phone personally? Anyone else feel same?