Stone Ocean
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But you can customize then from 4 different options at most that switch like two buttons that you don't even use around!
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DICE: BF4 on PS4 will likely use R2/L2 triggers to shoot
- Thread starter shinobi602
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seriously.
Devs should let people remap their shit. At least allow people to alternate between R1/L1 and R2/L2.
Buttons are superior for everything that doesn't need any sort of analog control. Rapidfiring with R1/L1 is way easier and faster than doing the same on an analog trigger.
Buttons are superior for everything that doesn't need any sort of analog control. Rapidfiring with R1/L1 is way easier and faster than doing the same on an analog trigger.
Cornbread78
Member
See, Right here DICE... let us CHOOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dragonflys545
Member
I just prefer using the R1 and L1 over triggers.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Off-Kilter
Banned
Why are people surprised? They are actual triggers now - those buttons were pretty much designed for shooters.
WrenchNinja
Member
Ugh, let me use L1/R1. I hate using the triggers.
Indeed
dragonflys545
Member
Same here #TeamL1/R1!!!
shinobi602
Member
I don't think they will to be honest, otherwise they would've just said that in the tweet.
I know it's an adjustment, but people are making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be. You can easily release a spring-loaded trigger as soon as you've pressed down far enough to do some in-game action, or even "feather" the actuation point to spam that action faster than you could do with a button with short travel.
Button config too. Tired of O and X switching if I import games. Just let me choose.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
The new triggers look wonderful, but my 600+ hours of KZ2 MP have ingrained L1/R1 into my mind; Dice better give us options here.
OgTheClever
Member
Make it optional, R1 and L1 are faster and more efficient than the 360 triggers right now.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
While I've heard the reviews of the triggers are glowing, they should've given us a choice.
I do the same thing with the Xbox controller, I've never found it uncomfortable. But then again, I learned to use "the claw" back in Halo 2 and 99% of people think that's uncomfortable too.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
I wouldn't want to shoot with the 360 bumper either.
But R1 on a DS3 is much closer to pulling a gun trigger than pushing RT, trust me. Maybe in a western or pirate game with ancient weapons it would make sense...
Mostly placement, I'd imagine, since it looks like L2/R2 are the default positions for your index fingers now that the controller's grips have been redesigned.
Some series like Halo also require you to press down the trigger different distances for different weapons, giving them varying levels of "weight."
Who has uses their middle finger for pressing any button or trigger, period? That is horrible for your hands.
Very welcome to hear L2/R2 are gonna be used on BF4 and I guess most other shooters will too.
Dont understand why people like L1/R1 (Not insulting anyone, just wonder why?), though I was playing FPS's on 360 before PS3, I just love the feel of pulling triggers compared to pressing buttons.
I was wondering whether L1/R1 would be like 360's LB/RB, but I read they're not. I used to love (still do really) the feel of the bumpers, but I quite like L1/R1 too, so I dont really mind what they feel like at the end
Dont understand why people like L1/R1 (Not insulting anyone, just wonder why?), though I was playing FPS's on 360 before PS3, I just love the feel of pulling triggers compared to pressing buttons.
I was wondering whether L1/R1 would be like 360's LB/RB, but I read they're not. I used to love (still do really) the feel of the bumpers, but I quite like L1/R1 too, so I dont really mind what they feel like at the end
Middle finger? What? How the hell do you hold the controller?
Digital-Hero
Member
Seriously, that is why I enjoyed the controls for Crysis 2, and 3 on PS3.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Nobody. Index finger is on the trigger, moves up to the shoulder button when necessary. It's impossible and generally unnecessary to have a finger covering every button on a controller.
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Reason #3,415 that justifies my PS4 preorder.
Sounds dumb to people who primarily play games on Playstations, but those shitty ass Dual Shock controllers have just been a shiv to the gut for the last 15 years. I'm really looking forward to not having to fight my controller to play games.
One thing the people objecting have to realize is that the reason devs went to R1/L1 in the first place on those Dual Shocks is to get over the ergo nightmare of the controller design. You guys don't like change, I get that, but give it a shot.
Exactly. I don't understand why devs omit this option so often. Just give us the choice. It frustrates me to no end on the PS3. Yes, the standard trigger on the PS3 is not great, but once you slap a set of Real Triggers on it, it's much better, yet I still can't use the triggers to shoot in many games, because the devs won't enable button switching.
I've used those. They broke after 3 days : /
Hmm. Maybe someone should tell Sony to make a new controller with new triggers. Maybe even call it a DS4.
Probably too crazy though
What? I still use the same pair that I bought years ago. I don#t even know how you would break them.
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Really? I've got two sets on my two controllers. I've had them for years with no problems. I love them.
baxter2231
Member
exactly, give people the option. Why is it so hard to have controller mapping ??? Now your lucky if you get 2 or 3 preset options.
CaptainTiptop
Member
I find those trigger add-ons are good for racing games, but not so much shooters.Exactly. I don't understand why devs omit this option so often. Just give us the choice. It frustrates me to no end on the PS3. Yes, the standard trigger on the PS3 is not great, but once you slap a set of Real Triggers on it, it's much better, yet I still can't use the triggers to shoot in many games, because the devs won't enable button switching.
But yeah, I was hoping most PS4 games would have the option to choose between R1/L1 and R2/L2. Triggers are usually preferred but there's still a lot of PS3 games who are very used to R1/L1.
It really need to be a system level remapping option.
Stoffinator
Member
Was going to post this.
disastermouse
Banned
This. It infuriates me every time they don't do this. I have the trigger extenders for my DS3 and it makes L2 and R2 so much better, and yet I have games like Tomb Raider where they don't let me change the button mapping.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
You didn't get my point. Pulling a gun trigger doesn't feel at all like pulling an analog trigger on a controller. So why not use the superior digital button instead.
Edit: And yes. Button mapping on OS level would be the perfect solution here. But that would make too much sense I guess.
It still isn't standard to let people choose functions for buttons in console gaming?
This is one of the most, utterly, incomprensible choices regarding console games.
Are they afraid it will be seen as too complicated and 'modding-like'? It's not like a prompt will force you to map controller buttons, it can just be an extra option for anyone who cares to change functions.
Also, for the very few shooters I do play on consoles, I prefer the typical playstation configuration, if R2/L2 become the new standard, I really do hope they'll allow us to choose how we prefer to play.
This is one of the most, utterly, incomprensible choices regarding console games.
Are they afraid it will be seen as too complicated and 'modding-like'? It's not like a prompt will force you to map controller buttons, it can just be an extra option for anyone who cares to change functions.
Also, for the very few shooters I do play on consoles, I prefer the typical playstation configuration, if R2/L2 become the new standard, I really do hope they'll allow us to choose how we prefer to play.