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It's here! AMD has debuted its frame generation technology - FSR 3 - in two titles, Immortals of Aveum and Forspoken. Based on what we're looking at here, AMD has done a great job in producing decent image quality with the generated frames themselves. However, the use of FSR 3 is limited in a number of ways: v-sync off and VRR do not function correctly, while v-sync under heavy GPU load produces off-putting frame-pacing problems. There's promise here, but this is not the finished article.

00:00 Introduction
00:37 Frame Generation: How It Works
01:23 Frame Generation Is Not 'Extra Performance'
02:29 Capturing FSR 3 at 4K 120fps
03:22 Features & Compatibility: FSR 3 vs DLSS 3
04:49 FSR 3 FPS Testing: V-Sync & Frame-Pacing Problems
07:47 FSR 3 FPS Testing: V-Sync Off & VRR Don't Work Properly
11:33 Frame-Rate Testing Summary: FSR 3 Needs Work
12:28 Gameplay Testing: RX 7900 XTX, V-Sync On
13:32 FSR 3 vs DLSS 3 at 4K 120fps
16:10 Frame Generation Latency/AntiLag/AntiLag+
18:00 And Now, The Conclusion


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Too much PC jargon, plz don't ask me to tl-dr.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

Great news. I hope this tech improves and bring much needed competition on the A.I. arena, as it is right now, its still a promise for me, vsync and vrr issues are a no-no to me. But I'm happy to see older hardware benefiting from a tech like this. Not only AMD cards but also the RTX2xxx and RTX3xxx series.

 

[Insane Metal]

TLDR pls

 

[adamsapple]

TLDR pls

 

[squarealex]

Yeah... nice futur of gaming. Fake 60fps and bigger lag than 30fps.

 

[winjer]

TLDR pls

Impressive Frame Gen tech
Limited by FSR2 upscaling
Antilag helps a bit with and without FG
Antilag+ hurts latency a bit with FG. Helps a lot without FG
Issues with VRR and screen-tearing, but they contacted AMD and they said they already have newer code ready

 

[RoboFu]

So what ive learned here is... Forsaken just completely sucks all around.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Yeah... nice futur of gaming. Fake 60fps and bigger lag than 30fps.

Is this real? Does DLSS introduce similar lag?

 

[Bojji]

Is this real? Does DLSS introduce similar lag?

Anti lag + currently doesn't work with FSR3.

 

[SolidQ]

Congrats owners RX 6xxx series, they got AFMF

 

[Buggy Loop]

Is this real? Does DLSS introduce similar lag?

DLSS introduces a 10~12ms latency in most case (always an outlier for shit implementations i would guess if you search for it).

The thing is even without reflex or anti-lag, Nvidia somehow has the latency advantage on AMD as a baseline.

Radeon Anti-Lag vs. NVIDIA Reflex Competition - Latency comparison with clear winner | Page 13 | igor´sLAB

It’s that time again: Latency Time for eSports enthusiasts and of course those who want to become one. Besides high FPS and low – constant – frame times, latency can make the difference between…

www.igorslab.de

Raw reflex vs anti-lag, the 3070Ti 4K at 109 fps beats the 6700XT 1080p 211 fps in latency

Or this, which is without reflex

Did anyone measure the AMD FSR 3 with Nvidia's LDAT?

Since Anti-lag+ doesn't work with FSR 3 yet, and nvidia forces reflex implementation for every frame gen supported games, then it'll likely never look favorably for latency tests.

 

[Magic Carpet]

DLSS introduces a 10~12ms latency in most case (always an outlier for shit implementations i would guess if you search for it).

The thing is even without reflex or anti-lag, Nvidia somehow has the latency advantage on AMD as a baseline.

Radeon Anti-Lag vs. NVIDIA Reflex Competition - Latency comparison with clear winner | Page 13 | igor´sLAB

It’s that time again: Latency Time for eSports enthusiasts and of course those who want to become one. Besides high FPS and low – constant – frame times, latency can make the difference between…

www.igorslab.de

Raw reflex vs anti-lag, the 3070Ti 4K at 109 fps beats the 6700XT 1080p 211 fps in latency

Or this, which is without reflex

Did anyone measure the AMD FSR 3 with Nvidia's LDAT?

Since Anti-lag+ doesn't work with FSR 3 yet, and nvidia forces reflex implementation for every frame gen supported games, then it'll likely never look favorably for latency tests.

Thanks for hunting this down for me. I never knew about these lag numbers and it's shocking.
That Igor site is nice that it translates for me.

 

[winjer]