Why stop there.
Both excellent games that look great, GT does more things better, FM does few things better. Overall nod goes to GT because they do more things better.Any summary ?
Why stop there.
They just put a ton of trees without taking into consideration what type of tree and the shape of tree to accurately depict how the track looks. John points that out. Which is why the entire of DF says GT is the better of both.
I don't know about you guys, but Forza's realistic lighting does much better in some comparisons.
GT here looks very "gamey" by comparison. The much better trees on Forza also help.
what about sophie?
The drivatars in Forza are awful, they can't navigate traffic and will just randomly stop in the middle of the track becoming moving obstacles. The regular AI in GT7 is also very slow, but the new AI they've introduced since the latest update is insanely good. Only issue is it's available in quick races and not the campaign for now, but if I want to have a real race I know which game I'm playing.
I will say I think they put too much weight into ray tracing during races. Like it was a bullet point vs what it could offer the game.
The AI drivers should drive like race drivers, not like how other players because most players drive badly. Now GT Sophie on the other hand is on a different league compared to most pro sim drivers.
Posted in the next gen racing thread but will post it also here. my thoughts on this video.
Just as i expected, John compared them for more than 70% in photomode and replays where 1 game gets seriously enhanced and the other don't. And i think that he finally saw my posts lol since he admited that the car models gets enhanced in GT7 during photomode and that Forza has higher quality car models during gameplay. Also he should know that when you zoom in in photomode Forza's tracks side details lods don't get enhanced like in GT7 when he did that tree comparison. For me that 30% of gameplay comparison was better than the one's with photomode since thats how they would look when you are playing. Also shame that he didn't capture them in HDR which makes both games look much much better.
However i do agree with him on 95% of what he said. On console i also think that GT7 looks a bit cleaner and better thanks to the more natural and sharper look. FM on console has too many sacrifices like low res iq, low quality textures, low quality reflections, low quality shadows, lower quality ai cars, lower quality clouds, almost no grass in RT performance mode and performance mode. But some of his footage has broken RTAO and RT reflections which happend in the old build in freeplay. They have fixed those issues in newer versions on pc but im not sure if its the same on console. So im not sure if he used the latest version when he compared them. And the material work and details on the cars in GT7 is just unmatched. Wish they would use the higher quality models during gameplay in time trial or free play whenever you are playing with only 1 car on track (similar to what FM did with FM4 til FM6 on Xbox One).
Overall its a very good comparison and he used actuall RL photo's to compare the real world tracks which showed that GT7 is more accurate to RL like we all knew. Even with some of the things i don't agree with him or things that he is wrong, its a very good video and i appreciate it since i know how much time it can take to make those comparison as close as possible. And props to him for calling out a winner. Tbh i expected him to spin the story to call it a draw.
This vidoe also just showed me how much better FM looks on pc now with all the updates it got, the textures, shadows, reflections, effects and track details (outside missing grass compared to visual mode) are much beter in the pc version after update 2.0. With Update 3.0 things got even better since they fixed most of the missing/broken car detail issues and RT problems that didn't work properly. The difference gonna be bigger when they add RTGI on pc.
I mean, that's granted, unless your work days are terribly long. After lunch something like 12 hours (if you're doing nothing else) would be more realistic.
Go check my comparison in the next gen racing thread and tell me if you think that ACC looks better overall. ACC was imo the best looking racing sim ever, but there are lots of things that FM does better now on pc. And PC and AM (they use the same engine) are not better looking than FM. And modded AC is the most inconsistent looking game of all time. With the right mod combo you can get some of the best looking game out there but most of the mods and stuff are not that high quality. And the environments are lacking compared to FM and ACC.
I wonder what the Ferrari F40's chosen pronoun is. I haven't watched the video but I assume John is not bold enough to assume a cars gender.So this is a genre john fancies? Is he comfortable covering that one?
Noted - Racing games = ok
Always remember this coward
Also - lol gt7 obviously looks better
The reflection in FM is majority cubemap, screenspace and planar just like GT during gameplay. RT reflection in FM is limited to certain shiny surface on the car and the range and quality is very limited. It renders at quarter of the native resolution.
Plus it's way more fun (imo)
This looks like games from two different gens.Really?
